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Berkley sold to Vacatia

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Nice find about Vacatia. Hopefully Shin performs the way she talks and sets up a good resale and rental program that will welcome Deedbacks to provide inventory for those efforts instead of forcing owners to just stop paying their maintenance since they have no other alternative to deal with a timeshare they no longer use and want.
 

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Wonder what role, if any, this played with Massanutten no longer associating as a VV affiliate? The timing makes it seem like more than a coincidence.
 

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Wonder what role, if any, this played with Massanutten no longer associating as a VV affiliate? The timing makes it seem like more than a coincidence.
Could you explain more? I have been to Massanutten and stayed at one of the Vacation Village resorts there. It is the one with the Water Park. I thought it was an actual Vacation Village Resort, not a affiliate. You say that Massanutten is no longer associating as a VV affiliate?
 

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There are no VV resorts at Massanutten. The resorts there are managed by Great Eastern (with the exception of Mountainside Villas, which is HOA controlled). Vacatia is a competitor to Great Eastern for resort management and had an affiliation agreement with Berkley; I would speculate that they are happy as a continuing separate corporation and continuing the affiliation wouldn’t be consistent with that situation.
 

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Fantasy Island in Daytona Beach is also now Vacatia.
 

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Well if their goal is a happy owner they are missing the mark .
I am going to withhold my MF payment until closer to my use time just in case they decide to lay off the entire staff and shutdown like they have done with Hiawatha. This is definitely not instilling confidence and trust in them especially since they are a new company starting in 2013.


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When I owned at The Colonies and at VV Williamsburg, I saw in the budgets that the delinquency rate was around 15% - despite those being decent trading weeks in Interval, that prompted me to divest those weeks to someone else wanting to use them for exchanges.

In addition to many owners wanting out and making postings, I am wondering if VV didn't also get hit by some sort of Viking ship (illegitimate entity taking on deeds for cash and not paying MFs.) Maybe it was just lax oversight of past individual transfers.

The discussion here is making me think back to the thread @TUGBrian started about 1.5 years ago after LT transfers flagged a bunch of new scrutiny on transfers by DailyManagement.

I also own a prime summer week at the Colonies and have enjoyed trading it in II and RCI. But the D-I-V-O-R-C-E between VV and Massanutten had me thinking about reducing my VV ownerships (also have an RCI Points Grandview EOY) before I learned the news from this thread.

I always trade my summer week at the Colonies, but I often do internal VV exchanges to stay there Thanksgiving and other off-peak times. I have found the Colonies to be relatively well managed and helpful staff at the location. DailyManagement has been a little more difficult. It often takes them a week or longer to verify a deposit with an exchange company, and I have heard several reports of them taking a lot of time to transfer ownerships.
 

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think perhaps some resort systems are seeing the writing on the wall in regards to defaults/delinquencies and the "bad debt" line item on the annual financial statements and making some hard business decisions going forward.
 

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There are no VV resorts at Massanutten. The resorts there are managed by Great Eastern (with the exception of Mountainside Villas, which is HOA controlled). Vacatia is a competitor to Great Eastern for resort management and had an affiliation agreement with Berkley; I would speculate that they are happy as a continuing separate corporation and continuing the affiliation wouldn’t be consistent with that situation.
I must have thought it was a Vacation Village Resort since I received some type of special deal in reserving their from Vacation Village. I just saw the post about the Great Eastern/Vacation Village Divorce that kind of explains why I thought it was a Vacation Village Resort since I booked it through a special deal not a customary RCI reservation.
 
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