At Westin Princeville, Kauai (WPORV) NOW!

[DeniseM]

OK, boys and girls - play nice or take it outside!

 

[DavidnRobin]

Are we fighting about something? I am confused... it wasn't my point. I stated to check out the area via Google Earth because of this continued notion here that WPORV should have had direct beach access. We went in knowing that WPORV wasn't beach front and SVO did not tell us otherwise. (nor do the photos show it that way).

Any look at a map would show that Wyllie Rd is about 2 miles from the Princeville Hotel. They did not insuate to us that by 'connected' they meant physically (nor did I mean that way). I meant connected as to the ability to use the main resort hotel just like WSJ VG and the WSJ resort. And my comment about expansion is that there is no room to expand at WPORV (unlike WKORV/N), and had nothing to do with being 'connected'.

It is not a comparison/argument I was attempting to make - of course a beach front house is fantastic and is more desirable and perhaps more affordable - that case could be made for any TS resort (including WSJ, WKORV, WKV, etc.). We just do not worry about the distance from the resort or the nearby beaches (like others do) - heck, we love to walk out the door at WKORV and go snorkling - but we also like to drive and do quite a bit at WKORV/WSJ to get to beaches. And while we will go down to the Hotel on occausion - however, we will mostly hang out at WPORV when not exploring North Kauai, and be as happy as clams (what ever that means...)

That is our expectations and vacation needs - if others have different vacation expectations/needs to own at a beachfront resort - then my advice would be not to buy WPORV (or exchange into). If someone wants to find something cheaper - then more power to them.

My point as to the location - it is what it is... it is not like there is a lot of available space in Princeville to pull off a major TS (especially beachfront). I have zero desire to own Pahio - even at a much lower cost. We will be very happy with our EOY WPORV - and perhaps the other EOY when (if) Poipu ever opens.

I wish SVO built a beach-side resort in North Kauai like WKORV/N and WSJ. Heck, I wish they tore down the Princeville Hotel and built WPORV there in that location. I also wish I had a money tree...

PS DeniseM - I didn't attempt to offend (play naughty)... just stating the obvious. I am unclear as to why the bashing of WPORV.

 

[duke]

Went to Owners Update (WPORV) here's the scoop...

Went to owners update at Princeville today. Got 4,500 starpoints or $50 cash (took the points).

FIRST: I need to update on the VIEWS here. They are AWSOME and LOTS of Ocean and Golf Course views are available. However, these will go to OWNERS who make their reservations 12 months in advance. At the owners update the salesperson clarified the views and showed me that they are in the new buildings that will open by July 1. I walked over to the construction and WOW they are direct SUNSET ocean views over the golf course. These are the same views that you see from the Princeville Hotel and the condos next to the hotel that sell for big bucks. So, be advised, the buildings on the West side (3 buildings) have golf course views and can see the sunsets. The other buildings have some units that can see direct ocean views. What this means is that OWNERS who make their reservations 12 months in advance will get these views. Both 2nd and 3rd floors have these views. If you are planning on trading in here you will have nice mountain or island views (8 month reservations).

They offered to fix my week and view (must be both) for 20% extra. You can upgrade by trading in your WPORV at the old price and pay the new higher price plus 20% and fix both week and view. NOTE: They will not let you fix your prior purchase as you must trade it in for the higher current price.
I don't think that will matter or is worth it because looking at the number of great views that will be available to those owners who book early.

Here's the prices:

WPORV: 2br L/O: $55,900 will increase to $58,900 on July 1.
Incentive is 100,000 plus 30,000 starPoints for current owners

WKORV: 2br L/O (oceanview): $67,900
Incentive is 80,000 starPoints plus 30,000 for current owners

WKORV-N 2br L/O (oceanview): $70,900
Incentive is 100,000 starPoints plus 30,000 for current owners
WKORV-N 2 br L/O (oceanfront): $94,900
No incentive plus 30,000 for current owners

You can trade in any Hawaii property purchased from the developer to upgrade to any other Hawaii property and get credit for the price you paid as long as the upgrade includes at least $12,000 additional cash.

WPORV is about 20%-30% sold. All sales at Maui will be selling Princeville as Maui is about done.

Going to play golf tomorrow. Both Princeville courses give discounts to WPORV owners.
$125.00 for prime time with cart, range balls, and use of Princeville hotel spa.
After 4pm is $50.00 no cart included.
The sunsets at 7pm.

All the best,
duke

 

[abbekit]

Thanks for the update. Do they have a resort map printed yet? If you get a copy of one it would be great if you could post it.

We're going on the SVO package deal next year so maybe, just maybe they will want to impress prospective owners with a good view .

 

[ciscogizmo1]

They offered to fix my week and view (must be both) for 20% extra. You can upgrade by trading in your WPORV at the old price and pay the new higher price plus 20% and fix both week and view. NOTE: They will not let you fix your prior purchase as you must trade it in for the higher current price.
I don't think that will matter or is worth it because looking at the number of great views that will be available to those owners who book early.

Great update...

I'm confused on your offer. Did they offer to do this for your WPORV week to WKORV or WKORV-N week?

I'm assuming there are no fixed view prices at WPORV right? We'll be going in July but I don't expect much as we'll be checking in a day late. I was hoping to get ground floor though.

 

["Roger"]

Ok, based on Duke's comments...... this sounds like a bomb. Beach is FAR FAR FAR..... what genius put a resort in a place where you could not get to the beach? Views are "nothing like Maui". And the pools are very small...... sounds like great fun once all the buildings are finished. SVO cheaped out. Again.

That is just why so many of us like Kauai. They are trying to keep their island from becoming Miami Beach deja vu ... lines of mega story hotels destroying the natural beauty of the beach areas.

To each his own.

 

[duke]

Went to Poipu yesterday. Ate lunch at the Sheraton Poipu Beach hotel. The restaurant is really nice and has a wonderful view of the beach. Actually, we think the views at the Sheraton are just as nice as the Princeville hotel. The Sheraton has a much nicer and larger beach.

You can use the Sheraton Poipu as well as the Princeville hotel while staying at the Weston Timeshare. We used the pool, beach, bars, restaruants, and parking at both hotels. No charge and no hassle. You can even charge to your room at the Weston and earn StarPoints.

We are off to Maui and staying at WKORV. Looking forward to seeing how our room assignments turn out as we traded into WKORV at the 8 month window.

duke

 

[SDKath]

Duke,

Did you grill the Poipu staff about the proposed timeshare there???

Let us know how your WKORV view is. I am curious given your 5* status.

By the way, GREAT plan to book a week in Kauai and a week in Maui. It sounds like 7 days is just not enough time to be in HI, but 14 -- mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Have a great time and keep us posted.

Katherine

 

[duke]

Let us know how your WKORV view is. I am curious given your 5* status.
Katherine

Just checked into WKORV.

Oh wow, got a 1 BR OV DELUXE on an 8 month reservation. (Also, they gave me a SPG Platinum folder with my cardkey. So, I think the SPG Platinum got us this great room ..... or 5*Elite) The OV Deluxe are in Bldg 4 corner units with view accross the park. Much nicer than the OV views at an angle over the pool.

I must say the DELUXE units are really great.
We are now thinking about buying a resale OF DELUXE. Waiting for prices to drop though.

Looking forward to another 7 days vacation here......
duke

 

[ciscogizmo1]

Just checked into WKORV.

Oh wow, got a 1 BR OV DELUXE on an 8 month reservation. (Also, they gave me a SPG Platinum folder with my cardkey. So, I think the SPG Platinum got us this great room ..... or 5*Elite) The OV Deluxe are in Bldg 4 corner units with view accross the park. Much nicer than the OV views at an angle over the pool.

I must say the DELUXE units are really great.
We are now thinking about buying a resale OF DELUXE. Waiting for prices to drop though. Please PM me if anyone sees a low priced OF Deluxe.

Looking forward to another 7 days vacation here......
duke

Funny how some people have a different prespective. Most don't want to be in building 4 because you do have the view across the parking lot or you are facing the highway and have a lot of noise. So it is refreshing to hear that someone actually likes their room assignment. I hope you enjoy the rest of your week!

 

[DeniseM]

Funny how some people have a different prespective. Most don't want to be in building 4 because you do have the view across the parking lot or you are facing the highway and have a lot of noise. So it is refreshing to hear that someone actually likes their room assignment. I hope you enjoy the rest of your week!

That was exactly what I was thinking! But I'm glad Duke isn't disappointed!

 

[SDKath]

Duke or someone with a map:

Could you guys possibly post where these OV delux units are. I am totally confused. I thought they are behind the pool, over the lobby? Can someone possibly post the map and maybe put a big fat arrow so I can see where it is.

By the way, Duke, could you pick up a resort map. I don't think we have a WKORV map up at all on TUG. I have only seen the N property map.

Thank you for any help!

Katherine

(oh, and stay away from the OFD units. One of those will be mine someday!)

 

[twz]

SDKath,

I always like this graphic for the layout of the buildings at WKORV, although it doesn't have unit number info.

http://www.westinkaanapali.com/acc.htm#

 

[DeniseM]

Kath - this map isn't great, but maybe it will help you:


Duh-nise posted a link to the wrong map!

 

[nell]

SDKath,

I always like this graphic for the layout of the buildings at WKORV, although it doesn't have unit number info.

http://www.westinkaanapali.com/acc.htm#

SDKath,

If you look at the link above and find the blue camera that says Island View Premium Villa in Bldg 4 the corner in front of that closer to the ocean is the OV DLX units. There is a palm tree next to that corner.

 

[SDKath]

Denise, I think that's Princeville.

Thanks! I found the corner. Are both corners the OV delux? Do some look through the whole pool area and others through the park to the ocean?

Are there some OV delux units in the middle of the main building too, or did I remember that incorrectly?

Katherine

 

[DeniseM]

Denise, I think that's Princeville.

Thanks! I found the corner. Are both corners the OV delux? Do some look through the whole pool area and others through the park to the ocean?

Are there some OV delux units in the middle of the main building too, or did I remember that incorrectly?

Katherine

Are you sure? :hysterical:

I'm sorry, I thought that was what you were asking for!

 

[DeniseM]

Kath - by main building, if you mean the building containing the lobby - it has no guest rooms.

 

[SDKath]

That reminds me -- can we possibly get an owner resource sticky of property maps? I think I have SVR so I can take a pix of it (it's large) and then try to get it to you to post. We already have Harborside. It would be great to have the rest too. Kath

 

[DeniseM]

That reminds me -- can we possibly get an owner resource sticky of property maps? I think I have SVR so I can take a pix of it (it's large) and then try to get it to you to post. We already have Harborside. It would be great to have the rest too. Kath

I would love to do that, so if you've got an Starwood resort map - send it to me!

dbmmayer@aol.com

 

[nell]

Denise, I think that's Princeville.

Thanks! I found the corner. Are both corners the OV delux? Do some look through the whole pool area and others through the park to the ocean?

Are there some OV delux units in the middle of the main building too, or did I remember that incorrectly?

Katherine

Only the corner overlooking the public park is considered OV DLX. The front corner looking over the pool area is actually IV DLX. There are only 6 OV DLX, 24 OF DLX and 18 IV DLX. Only the corners are considered DLX.

 

[SDKath]

Nice IV delux location! Thanks for the detailed description.

Katherine

 

[DavidnRobin]

I would love to do that, so if you've got an Starwood resort map - send it to me!

dbmmayer@aol.com

I have WKV - and perhaps WSJ

The Dlx are really nice - nice floor plan even w/ the wasted space esp w/ the light. MFs are much higher.

 

[Grandmama]

When we were at the Princeville Resort in January I posted that we visited the WPORV site and we walked the path to the beach below. I don't understand these posts that say there is no path to the beach below. We did it and it took us about 15 min., maybe less, to walk down.

Sometimes I am floored at the complaints and criticisms on this site. All one ever has to do to find and experience a "problem" is to look for one. I plan on enjoying myself when I go to WPORV, taking in the beauty of Kauai, being thankful for being able to be in such a wonderful place, cherishing moments with family and friends, relaxing, and not spending my moments trying to find something to complain about. People are knocking WPORV who don't even own there. Instead of finding so much wrong with it, they can just be happy that they never have to go there; isn't it wonderful to have a choice?

 

[formerhater]

When we were at the Princeville Resort in January I posted that we visited the WPORV site and we walked the path to the beach below. I don't understand these posts that say there is no path to the beach below. We did it and it took us about 15 min., maybe less, to walk down.

Sometimes I am floored at the complaints and criticisms on this site. All one ever has to do to find and experience a "problem" is to look for one. I plan on enjoying myself when I go to WPORV, taking in the beauty of Kauai, being thankful for being able to be in such a wonderful place, cherishing moments with family and friends, relaxing, and not spending my moments trying to find something to complain about. People are knocking WPORV who don't even own there. Instead of finding so much wrong with it, they can just be happy that they never have to go there; isn't it wonderful to have a choice?

Thanks for posting that. After reading all the reports of no beach access (both here and tripadvisor), I thought I was going insane. This may not change that, but at least I can be insane on the beach now.