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Asleep at the Wheel

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Well, today was the day for us to call and book the May 27th check in at MGV for 2010. Well being on vacation we awoke and went out for the day missing the 9:00 call time. When we returned around 3:00 and checked on line all May 27th check in days were all gone. As were those for the 24th. Basically any check in day that caused the reservation time to span Memorial Day 2010 were gone. There were only two of these check in dates available this year with Memorial Day being on May 31 in 2010. Last year there were four check in dates and we had no problem with a reservation at 10:30 am.

Oh well, live and learn. Booked our lock offs for check in on May 23rd.
 
This is one of the reasons we try to avoid holiday travel.

1. To many people trying to book the same week.
2. Crowds tend to be larger
3. Airfare tends to be higher and airports/flights crowded
4. More compition at work to have holiday's off.

Holiday travel just doesn't work all that well for us. We're fortunate in that it's not a necessity to try to travel over a holiday or when school is not in session. I feel these are the reasons we tend to be more successful getting what we want either at our home resorts or with exchanges.
 
This is one of the reasons we try to avoid holiday travel.

1. To many people trying to book the same week.
2. Crowds tend to be larger
3. Airfare tends to be higher and airports/flights crowded
4. More compition at work to have holiday's off.

Holiday travel just doesn't work all that well for us. We're fortunate in that it's not a necessity to try to travel over a holiday or when school is not in session. I feel these are the reasons we tend to be more successful getting what we want either at our home resorts or with exchanges.

I agree with your philosphy.
 
Well we were looking to actually deposit them for trade. We too like to travel in shoulder season.
 
Well, today was the day for us to call and book the May 27th check in at MGV for 2010. Well being on vacation we awoke and went out for the day missing the 9:00 call time. When we returned around 3:00 and checked on line all May 27th check in days were all gone. As were those for the 24th. Basically any check in day that caused the reservation time to span Memorial Day 2010 were gone. There were only two of these check in dates available this year with Memorial Day being on May 31 in 2010. Last year there were four check in dates and we had no problem with a reservation at 10:30 am.

Oh well, live and learn. Booked our lock offs for check in on May 23rd.

Kind of reinforces that Orlando is still very popular property if MGV
 
Well we were looking to actually deposit them for trade. We too like to travel in shoulder season.

A good policy within the present Marriott system. Get the highest demand week you can to exchange. I guess I'm fortunate in that, under normal circumstances, I don't feel the need to grab those weeks for what I'm asking for in exchange. Not needing the extra exchange power that a holiday week provides takes some pressure off trying to get those tough weeks. I'm also fortunate that, with our Vegas ownership, holiday weeks are not necessarily the highest demand weeks and, there just isn't that much compitition to get the weeks that actually have higher trade power like NASCAR week (either week 9 or week 10 in Vegas).

It also highlights the theory that exchanging for holiday weeks within the Marriott system might not be as tough as home resort owners reserving them for personal use. Lots of compitition for those weeks both from owners wanting them to use and from owners wanting them for their precieved exchange power.

Not to highjack this thread but, that's were points based exchanges systems even the field. When the management company controls the inventory of their resorts, they can hold the most desirable weeks for owners wanting to stay at their home resort and internal exchangers within the system wanting to stay at these resorts. Only after owners and internal exchangers have had their opportunity to select what they want does the management company release weeks to an exchange company.

On the other side of that equation is that all points become equal. If you are one of those owners who have the disipline and desire to make those early morning phone calls and get those high demand weeks, you may preceive a decline in trade power. If you're a last minute planner who never has a chance at a prime week, suddenly you may feel an increase in exchange power or, you may find better weeks available not only at your home resort but at all resorts within the system.

I'm accustomed the the system as it is now and have learned to work it to my advantage in certain situations. It isn't that difficult to trade up to a larger unit if you're a little bit flexible, know what to look for and how to look for it. If the playing field is leveled out by a points based system, some of that advantage will be lost.

If Marriott ever does make changes to it's internal trade system, there will be good and bad about it. If they don't ever make a change I'm fine with that as well. There's good and bad about how it works now. The bad is the compitition to get higher demand weeks for either personal use or to exchange. The good is being able to take a smaller unit and trade into a larger unit. I would miss being able to trade up but, I enjoy the relative ease of getting good weeks with the two systems I own that utilize a points based system for exchanges.
 
Don't feel bad.... Today was the day to call for Yosemite next year. I wanted one of the cabin tents and I totally forgot to call until around 8:40 am when the lines opened up at 8 am. Everything was gone. So, we are going to try for Labor day weekend instead. I envy those that can travel during non-holiday time but with children in school it isn't possible for me to travel off peak. Oh well... Next time.
 
Well, today was the day for us to call and book the May 27th check in at MGV for 2010. Well being on vacation we awoke and went out for the day missing the 9:00 call time. When we returned around 3:00 and checked on line all May 27th check in days were all gone. As were those for the 24th. Basically any check in day that caused the reservation time to span Memorial Day 2010 were gone. There were only two of these check in dates available this year with Memorial Day being on May 31 in 2010. Last year there were four check in dates and we had no problem with a reservation at 10:30 am.

Oh well, live and learn. Booked our lock offs for check in on May 23rd.

That made me think of something: May 27th and May 31st are Thursday and Monday check in. There's still Friday, Saturday and Sunday check in. MGV has about 900 units. How does Marriott distribute those units on the different days of the week? If MGV has 5 possible check in days, does it means 180 units for each day of check in or more check in units for Saturday and Sunday, and less units for Thursday, Friday and Monday?

Other question: this year, only Thurdays and Monday check in dates include Memorial Day. Friday, Saturday and Sunday don't. But they are all week 21. How would II treat them: as week 21 or it will vary according to check in date?:confused:
 
That made me think of something: May 27th and May 31st are Thursday and Monday check in. There's still Friday, Saturday and Sunday check in. MGV has about 900 units. How does Marriott distribute those units on the different days of the week? If MGV has 5 possible check in days, does it means 180 units for each day of check in or more check in units for Saturday and Sunday, and less units for Thursday, Friday and Monday?

Other question: this year, only Thurdays and Monday check in dates include Memorial Day. Friday, Saturday and Sunday don't. But they are all week 21. How would II treat them: as week 21 or it will vary according to check in date?:confused:

For 2010 I managed to get MPB (Ocean Pointe) during President's week. I was only able to get a Thursday checkin but I'm using it to trade so I figured week 7 on a Thursday checkin would be a better trader than week 8 or 9 on a Sat/Sun checkin. I was more than a little surprised when II told me that a Thurs/Fri checkin at MPB is considered week 6 in their system. That's how it's listed on my account even though MVCI calls it week 7. I don't know if this applies to other resorts but it sure does at MPB.
 
For 2010 I managed to get MPB (Ocean Pointe) during President's week. I was only able to get a Thursday checkin but I'm using it to trade so I figured week 7 on a Thursday checkin would be a better trader than week 8 or 9 on a Sat/Sun checkin. I was more than a little surprised when II told me that a Thurs/Fri checkin at MPB is considered week 6 in their system. That's how it's listed on my account even though MVCI calls it week 7. I don't know if this applies to other resorts but it sure does at MPB.

So does that mean that a week 8 with a Thursday or Friday check-in would have better trading power, even though it wouldn't actually include President's day, which is Monday, Feb. 15th? Strange, because I would think even a Feb. 11th or 12th check-in, which would include the holiday, would be the more desirable week.
 
That made me think of something: May 27th and May 31st are Thursday and Monday check in. There's still Friday, Saturday and Sunday check in. MGV has about 900 units. How does Marriott distribute those units on the different days of the week? If MGV has 5 possible check in days, does it means 180 units for each day of check in or more check in units for Saturday and Sunday, and less units for Thursday, Friday and Monday?

Other question: this year, only Thurdays and Monday check in dates include Memorial Day. Friday, Saturday and Sunday don't. But they are all week 21. How would II treat them: as week 21 or it will vary according to check in date?:confused:

I would think there would be more rooms available for Saturday and Sunday checkin in than Thursday or Monday. More people are wanting to check in on those weekend days I would think.

I don't think II gives the same week number assignments that Marriott does.
 
Well, today was the day for us to call and book the May 27th check in at MGV for 2010. Well being on vacation we awoke and went out for the day missing the 9:00 call time. When we returned around 3:00 and checked on line all May 27th check in days were all gone. As were those for the 24th. Basically any check in day that caused the reservation time to span Memorial Day 2010 were gone. There were only two of these check in dates available this year with Memorial Day being on May 31 in 2010. Last year there were four check in dates and we had no problem with a reservation at 10:30 am.

Oh well, live and learn. Booked our lock offs for check in on May 23rd.

I called early and the 27th was still gone. I called the Marriott 800 number to speak to customer service, and they said all the rooms were reserved. The 27th was the last day to arrive for week 21 and many were taken by those with two or more weeks that could book out at 13 months.

We could have booked the 24th -31st Monday to Monday or 23rd to 30th Sunday to Sunday, but we actually chose the 22nd to the 29th, Saturday to Saturday. Although we already deposited the week, I know that is what I would have wanted if I was staying there; a full weeks vacation, a day to get home, and then still the holiday off. It's listed with Interval as week 21.
 
I called early and the 27th was still gone. I called the Marriott 800 number to speak to customer service, and they said all the rooms were reserved. The 27th was the last day to arrive for week 21 and many were taken by those with two or more weeks that could book out at 13 months.

We could have booked the 24th -31st Monday to Monday or 23rd to 30th Sunday to Sunday, but we actually chose the 22nd to the 29th, Saturday to Saturday. Although we already deposited the week, I know that is what I would have wanted if I was staying there; a full weeks vacation, a day to get home, and then still the holiday off. It's listed with Interval as week 21.

I am sure that 50% of those units for the 27th and 24th checkin were already reserved by those with the 13 month advantage. So there would be very few units available at 9:00 am on the 27th.
 
When calling at 9am do you end up in a game of phone-roulette where it takes redialing every 30 seconds until you get in at 9:11 or 9:32?
 
When calling at 9am do you end up in a game of phone-roulette where it takes redialing every 30 seconds until you get in at 9:11 or 9:32?

You can actually reserve from the vacationclub.com website. That is what I have done the past several years.
Go to Plan my Vacation, then book my home resort, then follow through on the clicks to the page with the calendar showing you what dates are available.
This avoids any delays by phone.:)
 
When calling at 9am do you end up in a game of phone-roulette where it takes redialing every 30 seconds until you get in at 9:11 or 9:32?

I've pretty much given up doing the phone thing and book on-line. At times I would get the "we're experiencing heavy call volume, please hang up and call back later." Not what you want to hear when trying to book a much sought after week. Have never had any trouble booking on-line.
 
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