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Are you kidding! [Disney]

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So I've been asking questions on this board and exchanging board because my kids and their kids want to go to Disney world. Great I thought. I'll go on tug and get info about exchanges. No problem. As usual got info with no problem. So I took kids to Disneyworld in 82 so I don't need much info about that because after all I've already been there. You drive to Disney world, park (for free if I remember correctly) walk in the park, line up for a few minutes then ride. Walk into a restaurant, wait a couple minutes and then sit down. Too easy. So maybe I should read up a bit on the Disney board. Maybe things have changed slightly.
Are they kidding. You get a fast pass. Not for the day but by the ride. Seriously. You have to reserve all your sit down restaurants 60 days ahead. Please tell me I'm reading all this info wrong. How can anyone be that organized with 5 young kids not to mention 6 adults. How do people do it. I thought getting a hotel would be hard. Heck it's nothing compared to all the rest of it.
 

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Well…. 1982 was 33 years ago! ;)

We've only been to Disney in Orlando once, and it pretty much required the skills, tactics, and planning required for a military invasion.
 
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Yes, the things you are asking about are for real. One almost needs some sort of special or advanced education to maximize the value of a WDW vacation.

There are tons of websites that help one plan for that special Disney trip.

Here are my favourites:

disboards.com

passporter.com

allears.net

disneytouristblog.com

Disney Parks Mom's Panel
disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/tag/moms-panel

Or go to your library and get the latest edition of the Unofficial Guide to Walt Disney World.

You will do way more research than you want to. Advance dining reservations are a must for sit down restaurants. Fast passes are a good way to optimize the most popular rides. You can get some help here, but the best forum is the disboards.
 

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Just go. It will work out. Be flexible. Or, go nuts and plan for days...


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Just go. It will work out. Be flexible. Or, go nuts and plan for days...

Honestly, Ken, it's gotten so complicated that I don't know if you can do that any more. Well you can, but it's likely to be very frustrating and disappointing. Especially with a large group like the OP has.
 

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Honestly, Ken, it's gotten so complicated that I don't know if you can do that any more. Well you can, but it's likely to be very frustrating and disappointing. Especially with a large group like the OP has.


I was last at Epcot a few years ago for a day, as I was in Orlando for a conference. We walked in, did some rides, had lunch etc...not much wait and plenty of restaurants open without a wait. We didn't stay for dinner. Prior to that I was there about five years ago for 3-4 days and similarly had no issues. I think we made dinner reservations in the morning of each day (and we had a group).


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I was last at Epcot a few years ago for a day, as I was in Orlando for a conference. We walked in, did some rides, had lunch etc...not much wait and plenty of restaurants open without a wait. We didn't stay for dinner. Prior to that I was there about five years ago for 3-4 days and similarly had no issues. I think we made dinner reservations in the morning of each day (and we had a group).


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Were you there during a school holiday? That makes a big Diff.
 

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You can wing it, plenty to eat burger /fries / chicken , trying to make plans for that many would be a nightmare anyhow.
Gonna cost a bundle , plan on it and enjoy the time.
Micky and friends are available , just wait in line.
Dinners with them are nice, but pricy , 60 days ahead for this part

go in positive and enjoy !
 

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Were you there during a school holiday? That makes a big Diff.


Yup, since we had some little ones with us...


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I haven't done DisneyWorld yet but I've done Disneyland. And I learned really quickly that if anyone has expectations then planning is absolutely necessary. Try to keep the expectations low, make no promises, plan at least a little, and then try to be relaxed the day of.

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Yes, the things you are asking about are for real. One almost needs some sort of special or advanced education to maximize the value of a WDW vacation.

There are tons of websites that help one plan for that special Disney trip.

Here are my favourites:

disboards.com

passporter.com

allears.net

disneytouristblog.com

Disney Parks Mom's Panel
disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/tag/moms-panel

Or go to your library and get the latest edition of the Unofficial Guide to Walt Disney World.

You will do way more research than you want to. Advance dining reservations are a must for sit down restaurants. Fast passes are a good way to optimize the most popular rides. You can get some help here, but the best forum is the disboards.


When I plan a Walt Disney World trip I have gone to each of those sites above to help me plan. www.disboards.com and www.allearsnet.com are at the top of my list.

Here is another one that I really like for discount tips and suggestions:

www.mousesavers.com

Cynthia T.)
 

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It's really not that complicated.
They have an app and you can keep track of everything on the app.
Plus they give you these magic bands now which are your keys to the kingdom so you don't need tickets or room keys anymore. You can charge with the band, open your doors, open the gates, get into the parks all with the magic bands and then you reserve your dining ressies and fast passes on the app.

It's all very magical. :p
 

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If you want to wing it, do Disneyland instead. (Or Universal, if you're set on Orlando.) DisneyWorld takes quite a bit of planning if you want the best experience.
 

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If you want to wing it, do Disneyland instead. (Or Universal, if you're set on Orlando.) DisneyWorld takes quite a bit of planning if you want the best experience.

I think DLand can be just as bad at peak. You can invest an entire day in 3-4 attractions.
 

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If you want to wing it, do Disneyland instead. (Or Universal, if you're set on Orlando.) DisneyWorld takes quite a bit of planning if you want the best experience.
I think DLand can be just as bad at peak. You can invest an entire day in 3-4 attractions.

At peak the waits can be bad, but in general you can do DL with virtually no advance planning. That's much harder to do at DW.

With either (and most other theme parks), a few things help:

1) Plan your trip for a slower time, if possible.
2) Arrive as early as possible (often half an hour before opening).
3) Know which attractions should be done first, which ones should be done earlier, which ones should be done with FastPasses, and which ones can be done at any time.

If you don't want to plan, Universal (especially if staying on site to get Express Passes) can be done with virtually no planning.
 

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I think DLand can be just as bad at peak. ....

That "Dland" caused a FLASHBACK ... I lived in "D(e)land" just north of Orlando for 2.5 years over almost 4 years in the beginning of the 1970s ... did a road trip for 18 months in the middle of my term.
 

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My suggestion if you have kids with you is go to a park early then take a 3-4 hour back at the room, pool break in the early afternoon (if you are staying onsite) then go to the parks again. Eat breakfast in your room, make lunch your main meal, and understand how FassPasses work.
 

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From what I've read about Disney World in Florida, you do have to plan it out and make restaurant reservations 6 months in advance. That isn't my idea of going to a theme park. If you don't plan out the fast pass rides ahead of time, you can still go on them, but you may have over an hour wait for the ride.

Disneyland hasn't come to that, yet. It has become much more busy and I did try to make reservations for any sit down restaurant about a week in advance and they were all full, but we still managed to go for the day, eat the quick service food and go on a lot of rides. We got fast passes for one ride and decided to skip anything that had longer than a 30 min wait. We've been there so many times, that we didn't care if we missed anything. If it was my first trip in over 30 years, I'd be disappointed, but I also would have gone for longer than one day.

You will pay to park every day.
 

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It's not nearly as bad as it sounds. You could do zero planning and still have a great time, lots of people do. But there are a few things you can do to make things easier.

First: decide why you are there. I'm there to have a great time with my family, the parks are just the backdrop against which we do that. I don't base how much fun I'm having on how many times I get to ride some ride. Once you have that attitude firmly in place, it's a lot easier to spend time at the pool without feeling like you are "wasting time." And, for us, time relaxing back at the resort has been some of the best parts of our vacation, because it has kept us from needing a vacation to recover from our vacation!

I can't overstate the importance of the first hour or two each morning. That's prime touring time with the shortest lines. Keep a pace that allows you to get up and be at the park before it opens at least three out of every four days. That means spending less time in the parks than you think you can handle for the first half of your trip so that you have the energy to keep going in the second half. Take afternoon breaks, don't stay out too late, etc. Every so often it's fine to have a late night followed by a sleep-in day, but don't make that the norm.

It's worth having an idea about which parks you'll visit on what days so that you can get some FP+ in advance. Even the night before is helpful. Some FP+ attractions book up earlier than that, but you can visit those during your morning hours when lines are short, and save the FP+ reservations for when lines are longer: either late morning/early afternoon, or maybe the evening to return after a break at the pool.

Likewise, it's actually quite easy to get a reasonable place to eat reserved the night before or even day of, because Disney now has a cancel penalty---if you reserve a meal but don't show up for it, you are charged $10/pp. You have to cancel at least by midnight the day before to avoid this no-show fee. That means lots of interesting places will suddenly become available at the last minute. For example, I managed a Cape May Cafe dinner reservation for Christmas Day that popped up just two days earlier. Granted, it's hard to book the handful of super-popular places this way, but your vacation will not be ruined if you don't eat at those, trust me. Magic Kingdom is the one park with far too little table-service capacity, but the nearby resorts have some really excellent choices that are very convenient, and provide a nice break from the park as well.

I used to be an uber-planner, but I've since taken a much more relaxed approach to things, and I'm finding that I enjoy them much more that way. It's less of a battle plan and more of a vacation, and we still have a great time.
 
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Nope....the mouse is not kidding. I think he may be a secret control freak!

We go to Disney more than I would like (but the family loves it). So I know how to work the system to ensure we get done what we want to get done.

But...it does annoy me to know end that in order to do what we want to do the mouse makes me not only plan months in advance what day I will be in what park, where I will eat and now what hour I will be on a particular ride.

Since you haven't been in so long....all will be "new" to you and whatever you come up with will be great. Don't stress about doing it all.

My advice to people to manage Disney planning:
1. pick which park, which day first....then it will all fall into place
2. Make dining reservations (6 months in advance)
3. Make FP reservations (60 days in advance for onsite - 30 days for off site)
 

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Yelling, hitting (depending on context and degree), threatening, etc., are not necessarily negative parenting. That can also be responsible parenting. For those who coddle their kids or let their kids run sh-- which is all the rage nowadays, I could see how responsible parenting is very uncomfortable to watch. It on the other hand ruins it for me to watch passive, feckless parenting.

It is perfectly possible to have firm expectations, with real consequences when they are not met, without yelling at or hitting your kids. Likewise, I don't threaten. I promise.
 

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Actually, if you do a few hours of pre-planning, your entire week will be MUCH smoother. You can always canx a restaurant 24 hrs in advance (48 for a few) and change your FP+ anytime, but at least the night prior is better to ensure getting most of the rides you want. So, it's some pre-planning and then you can be flexible when you get there.
Our crowd plan, which has worked for 10+ years during peak times: unless you can go to AM extra magic hour (EMH), do not go to the park with extra magic hours in the AM (except if MK has EMH all week, then it doesn't matter which day). You can look on disney's webiste under park hours to find out which park has EMH a few months in advance. The park with EMH will be more crowded than the other parks. Also, we get our FP for midday, when the park will be very crowded, and go about 9am (or earlier) and just stand in the shorter lines. Rides near the enterance and in Fantasy land will fill up first, if you go straight to the back of tomorrowland or over to adventure-frontier land, lines will be shorter in the AM. Even at peak spring break times, we usually wait less than 10 minutes for jungle cruise and pirates or alladin before 10am. If it's super crowded, we do rides from 9-11am, then use a noon FP, eat lunch, use a 1pm and then 2pm FP and then just leave and enjoy the pools, etc. We get a FP before we leave for later in the night and sometimes we go back in, use that FP and walk around, shop, get a special treat/dessert. It makes WDW much more fun and relaxing.
Also, if you have an Elsa fan and you cannot get a FP spot, go VERY late at night on standby (45 minutes before Elsa closes). Most of the younger kids have gone to bed.
If we are going to pm EMH, we usually sleep late, hang out at resort and go into the parks at 4 with FP at 4,5,6pm, then dinner in the park. EMH pm can last until midnight or later, so you need to pace yourself. Or you can go from 9am-noon and have your FP for after dinner. Come back to resort for lunch/swim and then hit the parks right after dinner for 6 more hours.
We always get FP for Soarin (never seen it with under 1 hr wait--but we go in high season), EE (but there is usually a single rider line), Rockin Roller (sometimes single rider line) or Toy Story ride, Splash and Big Th. You MUST have a FP for 7 dwarfs--or wait 60+ minutes. After those, Star Tours, Dinosaur, Lion King (better location). We never FP Safari, but go 1st thing in the AM. If you go later than 10:30, FP Safari. We never FP Pirates or Jungle.
you have to choose between Soarin and Test Track--but there is a single rider line for TT (but you don't get to make a car). I would rather go straight to TT at opening and have a FP for S. Same for Toy Story--you have to pick TS or Rockin. My kids love Rollers, so we get Rockin FP and if there is a single line, they rider again. But, I have been there when the single was not avail and the wait was close to 60 min.
You need to get your tickets in advance, either through disney or an authorized broker (mapleleaf or undercover tourist), b/c you need the ticket or voucher # to make your FP. If you stay onsite, you can make FP at 60 days, 30 days for all others. Elaine
 

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holy crap. I mean, freaking holy crap! I'll stick to the traditional amusement parks, this sounds like way too much work, way too much expense, drama and exhaustion. I bow to those of you who have this down to a science, say hey to Mickey for me as no way I'll ever go meet him.

best of luck to all.
 

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holy crap. I mean, freaking holy crap! I'll stick to the traditional amusement parks, this sounds like way too much work, way too much expense, drama and exhaustion. I bow to those of you who have this down to a science, say hey to Mickey for me as no way I'll ever go meet him.

best of luck to all.
Bush gardens..smaller crowd. .free beer.. who could ask for more?

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