Are there 3 ways of getting Marriott to Marriot exchange, for deeded week owners?

[seema]

1. Traditional method - depositing deeded week directly to II.
2. New Method - converting deeded week into Vacation Club points, and then requesting from enrolled owners' week inventory, or (as in my case, upgraded by purchase of VC points, to premier status) from the trust inventory.
3. New Method - two step method - converting deeded week into VC points, and then depositing VC points to II, and then asking for a Marriott week.

Why would anyone use the third method.

Well, first if it is legal - as per the MVCI/II contract. If it is, then here are my thoughts.

My Ko Olina 2 bedroom ocean view unit gets me 4950 VC points every year, if I use method 2. However, if I deposit 4500 VC points with II, I can ask for a 2 bedroom week, during prime season. Most, if not all, Marriott weeks would likely have an associated travel demand index to be considered prime weeks. So, assuming I can access Maui weeks, this method would leave me with 450 VC points left over each year? What do you think? The only disadvantage: the Marriott VC points which I am using to deposit into II will likely mean that MVCI will deposit a week into II with a much lower trading power than my Ko Olina unit, so my chances of accessing the Maui week deposited directly into II would very low.

The chances of accessing the Maui unit would be highest with method 2 - but they would be the most expensive way (for me) to access the units. A 2 bedroom unit with ocean view in the summer time would cost a lot more than the 4950 VC points I can obtain, by electing to deposit my week into the VC points pool.

 

[wvacations]

12. New Method - converting deeded week into Vacation Club points, and then requesting from enrolled owners' week inventory, or (as in my case, upgraded by purchase of VC points, to premier status) from the trust inventory.

It has been battled here before, but according to the legal documents, your purchase of Trust points did not upgrade your legacy points. You have access to trust inventory ONLY with the trust points you purchased.

 

[dioxide45]

1. Traditional method - depositing deeded week directly to II.
2. New Method - converting deeded week into Vacation Club points, and then requesting from enrolled owners' week inventory, or (as in my case, upgraded by purchase of VC points, to premier status) from the trust inventory.
3. New Method - two step method - converting deeded week into VC points, and then depositing VC points to II, and then asking for a Marriott week.

Why would anyone use the third method.

The third method isn't even an option. When using VC points to search in II, you are limited to only non Marriott exchanges. That is why the DC Exchange Company exists. It is there to facilitate Marriott to Marriott exchanges with points. You can't use DC points to exchange through II in to Marriott resorts, unless they are those that are not in the DC program (Europe, Asia).

There would have been no reason for Marriott to setup their system to have to compete with II in the points arena. If you convert to points and want to stay at another Marriott resort, you have to go through the DC exchange company, you can't use II.

 

[seema]

It has been battled here before, but according to the legal documents, your purchase of Trust points did not upgrade your legacy points. You have access to trust inventory ONLY with the trust points you purchased.

I wonder if you can give me a link to those threads, which discuss that issue.

Thanks.

 

[Clark]

The third method isn't even an option.

But -- there *is* a third way

:=)

 

[Garnet]

Thank you Clark!

We need to "click"....

 

[seema]

It has been battled here before, but according to the legal documents, your purchase of Trust points did not upgrade your legacy points. You have access to trust inventory ONLY with the trust points you purchased.

I have been explicitely told otherwise - I have been given a statement to the contrary by MVCI - by email.

See this post/thread:

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168246

 

[wvacations]

Not to be argumentative but I think the contract is going to trump any email. Contract clearly says "exchange points can access exchange company inventory ( not II, the exchange company Marriott created with the dc). Contract further states that "trust points can access trust inventory as well as exchange company inventory. Until the contract is revised, that is the legal description of the inventory. Emails can't supersede a contract.

Trust point owners own a deed to the trust. Saying non-owners can reserved property owned by someone else would be like saying a trust point owner could reseve your legacy week. It just can't happen until a legacy owner puts the week in the exchange company. Same is true for trust inventory, it has to be put into the exchange company first.

Once inventory is in the exchange company(again not II but the marriott exchange company) I agree that a point is a point and there is no difference. It has to be that way for all deeded real estate (points or weeks).