Are people stupid?

[easyrider]

To be fair there are high risk activities and low risk activities. Staying home alone is nearly no-risk.

But I'm not going to fault people for engaging in low risk activities. For instance, assuming the pool is regularly cleaned and uses appropriate pool chemicals, doing water exercises at a distance from one another, particularly if the pool is outdoors, is likely low risk. The pool chemicals will destroy the virus and if it's outdoors then it won't last long in the air due to sun and wind. In my opinion, going grocery shopping is one of the highest risk activities someone can do. And a lot of people are doing that! The indoor air will keep the virus viable longer than outdoor air. Plus there are a lot more people at the stores adding germs all the time. Get delivery or do drive-up pick-up for groceries instead.

Please understand that this virus LINGERS IN THE AIR. It lingers longer in indoor air than outdoor air. And it spreads farther with a cough or sneeze but it appears to come from just regular breathing too. Cleaning surfaces and staying 6 feet apart is not enough, particularly indoors. Wear a mask if you go to indoor public places like a grocery store.

I thought Costco did a good job of keeping people apart and definitely a good job in the cleaning. Our carts were disinfected , the gas pump was disinfected and other high traffic areas were constantly cleaned.

Bill

 

[VegasBella]

I thought Costco did a good job of keeping people apart and definitely a good job in the cleaning. Our carts were disinfected , the gas pump was disinfected and other high traffic areas were constantly cleaned.

Bill

I don't know if our Costco did a good job or not because I didn't go. But now there are 2 confirmed cases at my local Costco, who knows how many more that haven't been tested?

 

[Panina]

As long as the delivery drivers stay healthy.

Dave

Risk is everywhere, bless those drivers. Disinfecting deliveries the best we can still imo is safer then the stores. Unfortunately there are times we have to go as this will continue for awhile.

 

[Makai Guy]

Thank goodness for my hoarder habits and recent discovery of online meat, veges and fruits delivery sites.

So you think all THEIR employees are any smarter and/or more responsible than those at the grocery store?

 

[CalGalTraveler]

I was at Costco about 1.5 weeks ago. I asked for cart wipes as I entered the door. The manager grabbed a paper towel, walked over to the hand sanitizer and squirted onto the towel and handed it to me. No one else was getting wipes. This Costco never offered wipes before.

I asked him why they weren't regularly cleaning the carts with disinfectant or providing wipes to everyone. He said, "We are all out of wipes and won't get any soon." I mentioned that other stores have employees with spray bottles (or even a few tablespoons of bleach in water in a spray bottle) and paper towels that can be used to disinfect each cart? He didn't seem to care.

Perhaps they have changed the policy but I haven't been back. There was little distancing and no precautions on carts so that disgusted me.

Our local grocery store has added sneeze guards at the cashier line and has plenty of wipes. I feel sorry for the cashiers who get exposed constantly within 6 feet and must handle dirty money. IMO that is the most dangerous job in the store.

 

[Karen G]

I don't know if our Costco did a good job or not because I didn't go. But now there are 2 confirmed cases at my local Costco, who knows how many more that haven't been tested?

Which Costco is your local Costco in the Las Vegas area? Mine is the one on St. Rose Pkwy. Were the two cases employees?

 

[VacationForever]

So you think all THEIR employees are any smarter and/or more responsible than those at the grocery store?

It is not about grocery employees vs. online store employees. It is about not wanting to go into grocery stores and pick up water droplets in the air when people, ie. shoppers and employees, talk, cough and sneeze. CDC has indicated that there is very low risk in getting transmission from surfaces. It is about people to people transmission.

 

[turkel]

It’s comical as a nurse its not recommended I wear a mask at work.

Gloves make me want to ROLOL.

If you are wearing gloves for longer than it takes to complete 1 task you are not protecting yourself. You are just transferring any virus via gloves. Your hands cant absorb the virus therefore wearing the same pair of gloves provides No protection.

Yes people are stupid. There is a special place for people walking around in N95 ‘s in my opinion.

Social Distancing and frequent hand washing is the only true defense.

 

[Ken555]

I read a news article several days ago about grocery store clerks are catching COVID-19. We have not stepped into a store in more than 2 weeks and no plans to do so for the next 3 to 4 months. Thank goodness for my hoarder habits and recent discovery of online meat, veges and fruits delivery sites.

If it hasn’t already been done (I haven’t seen it) we should start another thread with details of those sites that offer food delivery. I’ve got a few I use now, but always looking to see if there are better options.


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[VegasBella]

Which Costco is your local Costco in the Las Vegas area? Mine is the one on St. Rose Pkwy. Were the two cases employees?

Costco: Confirmed cases of coronavirus reported among employees

Employees with Costco Wholesale have tested positive for the coronavirus disease COVID-19, a corporate spokesperson confirmed Monday. Costco said it was "communicating relevant information to our employees. " There was no immediate confirmation on how many people tested positive or where they...

news3lv.com

 

[geekette]

If it hasn’t already been done (I haven’t seen it) we should start another thread with details of those sites that offer food delivery. I’ve got a few I use now, but always looking to see if there are better options.

That's a good idea. Can also post specials, coupons or rare finds.

 

[DaveNV]

I feel sorry for the cashiers who get exposed constantly within 6 feet and must handle dirty money. IMO that is the most dangerous job in the store.

This is why my spouse is on a leave of absence from Costco right now. Working directly across the counter with hundreds of members all day long, one after the other, having to touch and inspect returned items from them, handling membership cards, money, whatever - it's a guaranteed recipe for infection.

In my opinion, cashiers aren't ever paid enough for the job they do - even at Costco.

Dave

 

[VacationForever]

If it hasn’t already been done (I haven’t seen it) we should start another thread with details of those sites that offer food delivery. I’ve got a few I use now, but always looking to see if there are better options.


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Agree. Do you want to volunteer to start one?

 

[TravelTime]

This makes me wonder if grocery stores should be shut down to the public and just have shoppers deliver goods.

 

[cbyrne1174]

Everyone in my social circle (we're all in our 30s) are cowering at home telling our boomer parents to STAY THE F INSIDE. It's the ones that should be worried that aren't taking this seriously. Well when ventilators start to be rationed at least I know I will get one if I need it because I have the highest chance of survival based on age, gender and health (165 lb 30 year old with no preexisting conditions). It's the stupid 60+ year olds that are still out and about. Do they not realize that if ventilators get rationed, they're not going to get one based on age? They will prioritize them on occupation (health care worker first), then age and preexisting conditions. When they run out of ventilators, it will be rationed in a way that will have the lowest number of casualties.

 

[Rjbeach2003]

(political comments removed)
I'm in Oregon and the first weekend there was social distancing and school closures, people flocked the Oregon coast. Finally businesses and residents told them to leave they weren't welcome right now. It's calmed down now. My wife and I have been staying at home for over two weeks now.
I was on blogs for Italy and there were Italians claiming that the danger was vastly overblown. Now Italy has the most debts in the world, with over 11,500 and over 800 new deaths today. There hasn't been any of that talk on the blogs recently.
Remember the president said at the first of the month that it would all be over in 15 days, they had it under control Today we have almost 156,000 cases nearly 2500 deaths with an increase of cases 12,500 since yesterday and 271 new deaths since yesterday. It will hit Florida, and if it doesn't hit as hard as NY it will be because of the drastic measures taken there.

 

[Karen G]

Costco: Confirmed cases of coronavirus reported among employees

Employees with Costco Wholesale have tested positive for the coronavirus disease COVID-19, a corporate spokesperson confirmed Monday. Costco said it was "communicating relevant information to our employees. " There was no immediate confirmation on how many people tested positive or where they...

news3lv.com

Wow--thanks for the link to that article.

 

[geekette]

This makes me wonder if grocery stores should be shut down to the public and just have shoppers deliver goods.

No thank you!

The shoppers would be need to be paid at least 80k, salary, no relying on tips, full benefits. That's not going to happen.

Plus, I like to do my own shopping and would not be ok removing an approved reason to leave home.

 

[VacationForever]

I do think that grocery workers need to have full face protection - goggles and masks, and not to make unnecessary small talk. Even before COVID-19, I hated those cheery small talk. Just ring up those items and get the queue moving!

 

[JanT]

I'm sure you're being facetious but the line really is, "Ahhh, look at all the lonely people. Where do they all come from?" LoL But, in our current situation, it is perfectly acceptable to substitute the word "lonely" with the word "stupid."

To paraphrase a well-known Beatles song (Eleanor Rigby), please sing along:

All the stupid people,
Where do they all come from.

 

[Brett]

This makes me wonder if grocery stores should be shut down to the public and just have shoppers deliver goods.

Closing all the grocery stores would be truly be at the end-times

 

[TravelTime]

No thank you!

The shoppers would be need to be paid at least 80k, salary, no relying on tips, full benefits. That's not going to happen.

Plus, I like to do my own shopping and would not be ok removing an approved reason to leave home.

I was thinking to protect the store employees. I feel really bad that the cashiers are taking so much risk for so little money. Not that anyone should take this risk, regardless of salary. I feel really bad for doctors, nurses and health care workers on the front lines. Think about it. In a war or 9/11, health care workers did not have to risk their own lives (and family’s life) to save others. With an infectious disease, there is no other way.

 

[Brett]

It's important to understand that there are about 40% of the population that simply don't believe the news. They have heard "Fake News" so many times, plus websites that have downplayed the danger for months, Jerry Falwell Jr who is opening up his family university, the governor of Florida who had to be drug kicking and screaming to reality. I'm in Oregon and the first weekend there was social distancing and school closures, people flocked the Oregon coast. Finally businesses and residents told them to leave they weren't welcome right now. It's calmed down now. My wife and I have been staying at home for over two weeks now.
I was on blogs for Italy and there were Italians claiming that the danger was vastly overblown. Now Italy has the most debts in the world, with over 11,500 and over 800 new deaths today. There hasn't been any of that talk on the blogs recently.
Remember the president said at the first of the month that it would all be over in 15 days, they had it under control Today we have almost 156,000 cases nearly 2500 deaths with an increase of cases 12,500 since yesterday and 271 new deaths since yesterday. It will hit Florida, and if it doesn't hit as hard as NY it will be because of the drastic measures taken there.

I think that 40% has gone down in the past few weeks

 

[Panina]

It is not about grocery employees vs. online store employees. It is about not wanting to go into grocery stores and pick up water droplets in the air when people, ie. shoppers and employees, talk, cough and sneeze. CDC has indicated that there is very low risk in getting transmission from surfaces. It is about people to people transmission.

There is another theory too, you touch something that has it and then touch your face. That is how some medical professionals think it is spreading. So just make sure, as I know you are, to wipe everything delivered and wash up. I still feel safer with delivery as it is only the surface stuff I have to be concerned about.

 

[TravelTime]

Closing all the grocery stores would be truly be at the end-times

Frankly, at this point, it would not surprise me if grocery stores closed. I am already past being able to be shocked by the havoc this virus is causing. A few weeks ago, I would have never predicted a world shut down. If grocery stores closed to protect the lives of its workers, and shifted to deliveries, it would be difficult but still possible to live. I do not think it will happen but it could. Anything could happen. I am not naive anymore. My eyes have been opened to the risks in this world.