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Are people stupid?

I love tug.....

you sent me to the fancy thinking box and googled this;


I got a good laugh at this being a male.


A new US-based nationally representative survey has found that 65 percent of respondents (70 percent in men, 60 percent in women) agree with this rather telling statement: “I am more intelligent than the average person.” Hopefully this doesn’t require a rudimentary lesson in statistics to explain why this simply isn’t possible.
Quite possibly in their eyes of the world they feel that way. Or their small part of the world.
 
I still seeing people playing tennis every day. I assume that they all don't live together, but who really knows. I also saw a mom with several kids watching one of her sons get a private lesson from a basketball coach. This is all in an outdoor park where I walk my dogs.

My husband's business is complementary health. While most people are cancelling their appointments, we have several people who are insisting that they need to come in this week. I looked at the schedule and I see 4 elderly couples - in all cases, the husbands have dementia or alzheimers. What the hell are the wives thinking?

I would think you could play tennis and keep the 6 foot distance easily.
 
Yes but they touch the balls to serve. Perhaps it is a family?

Could be. Or the players just wash their hands before the game- heck- wash the ball, too- and all is well.
 
The community has set up the guidelines, they are not patrolling it though. The city is estero, right between naples and fort Myers. Pelican bay in Naples made the news because their beach club was opened and it was packed. All the beaches are closed here because the spring breakers went wild. As our governor said, jello shots off strangers belly is not social distancing.

Does your city or county have a stay at home order? I read that Florida does not have a state wide order and it depends on the city or county. Maybe that is part of the problem. The state needs to take the lead and enforce it. Here in California we were the first to have a Shelter in Place order by the governor. I really think it has helped for our leadership to mandate it. It seems most people here are taking SIP seriously. There are some preliminary reports from hospitals and doctors in the SF BayArea that our health care system is able to handle the cases. Apple where my husband works started the work from home a full week before it was mandated by the state.
 
Does your city or county have a stay at home order? I read that Florida does not have a state wide order and it depends on the city or county. Maybe that is part of the problem. The state needs to take the lead and enforce it. Here in California we were the first to have a Shelter in Place order by the governor. I really think it has helped for our leadership to mandate it. It seems most people here are taking SIP seriously. There are some preliminary reports from hospitals and doctors in the SF BayArea that our health care system is able to handle the cases. Apple where my husband works started the work from home a full week before it was mandated by the state.

We have two large states, Florida and Texas, erecting barriers for visitors from other states but not taking responsibility to corral their own citizens with a stay-at-home order to prevent the spread of this virus.
 
Does your city or county have a stay at home order? I read that Florida does not have a state wide order and it depends on the city or county. Maybe that is part of the problem. The state needs to take the lead and enforce it. Here in California we were the first to have a Shelter in Place order by the governor. I really think it has helped for our leadership to mandate it. It seems most people here are taking SIP seriously. There are some preliminary reports from hospitals and doctors in the SF BayArea that our health care system is able to handle the cases. Apple where my husband works started the work from home a full week before it was mandated by the state.


It depends on the area. Much of FL is rural so a statewide shut down isn't necessary. Tampa and Jacksonville aren't really hit that hard. Florida's economy already took an insane beating by closing the parks. I don't think we'd survive if they closed everything else without having to. Miami and Orlando (tourism) needed to be shut down, but the rest of the state is just social distancing with no large gatherings and restaurants functioning to-go only. If they shut the restaurants down completely, they wouldn't be able to pay rent and the servers wouldn't have a job to go back to.

The Tampa pasture that is on the news has a warrent for his arrest for hosting church last weekend. There will also be a special place in hell for him right next to the people who tried to price gouge during a global pandemic.
 
It depends on the area. Much of FL is rural so a statewide shut down isn't necessary. Tampa and Jacksonville aren't really hit that hard. Florida's economy already took an insane beating by closing the parks. I don't think we'd survive if they closed everything else without having to. Miami and Orlando (tourism) needed to be shut down, but the rest of the state is just social distancing with no large gatherings and restaurants functioning to-go only. If they shut the restaurants down completely, they wouldn't be able to pay rent and the servers wouldn't have a job to go back to.
Oh, so the testing in FL has been so complete from Day 1 that you are certain everyone in rural counties is staying there, uninfected? Nobody coming in, nobody going out? That's weird, because my state has mostly rural areas and sure enough, people are dying there, too. But Florida shouldn't lose money, so keep people at work, serving the general public from all over the world.

I'm surrounded by jobless people (all over the country), but they will live. Some people continuing to do unnecessary jobs will not live. Nor will their customers. Please keep a running count of how many healthcare workers you lose over the next many months and then come tell me it was all worth it.

Sorting out the job and income thing is a problem for all of us to solve later. After we get through this with our lives. This whole thing is going to drag out so much longer without big ole shutdown. Other countries are past it much faster because they prioritized testing and saving lives. They are restarting their economies. Are you saying that America would not be able to do that ? That there will never ever be another job for that server, if she manages to survive this?
 
We have two large states, Florida and Texas, erecting barriers for visitors from other states but not taking responsibility to corral their own citizens with a stay-at-home order to prevent the spread of this virus.
As to how this relates to the OP question, yes, and some more than others.
 
Yes it's worth it. I want to be able to have another child. It's my right to have children. How is it fair that some 70+ year old gets to have 4 kids, but I can't have 2 because times are too tough and by the time it settles, I'm too old to bear children?

I would gladly die at 70 and be able to have children then live to 100 and not be able to have children. What's the point of living without family? We can't move on if the economy is too messed up. Look at NYC's data. Only 11 people out of 1096 deaths were under 65 and had no underlying conditions. The at risk group can stay inside and use instacart. The rest of us need to keep the country going. It's going to drag until there's a vaccine or herd immunity. They're just not openly saying it to keep people calm. Anyone with a basic understanding of infectious disease knows you can't stomp out something this contagious and widespread unless you have a vaccine.
 
Yes it's worth it. I want to be able to have another child. It's my right to have children. How is it fair that some 70+ year old gets to have 4 kids, but I can't have 2 because times are too tough and by the time it settles, I'm too old to bear children?

I would gladly die at 70 and be able to have children then live to 100 and not be able to have children. What's the point of living without family? We can't move on if the economy is too messed up. Look at NYC's data. Only 11 people out of 1096 deaths were under 65 and had no underlying conditions. The at risk group can stay inside and use instacart. The rest of us need to keep the country going. It's going to drag until there's a vaccine or herd immunity. They're just not openly saying it to keep people calm. Anyone with a basic understanding of infectious disease knows you can't stomp out something this contagious and widespread unless you have a vaccine.
Who is stopping you from breeding? I have managed to have a fulfilling life without having children, so you can find my life to be Pointless, but I disagree.

So what was the deal with SARS, MERS, Zika, Ebola?
 
Yes it's worth it. I want to be able to have another child. It's my right to have children. How is it fair that some 70+ year old gets to have 4 kids, but I can't have 2 because times are too tough and by the time it settles, I'm too old to bear children?
So go for it! The young don't seem too endangered by the pandemic. It's just us old Boomers that are endangered. As far as bringing offspring into an uncertain world, take heart! Adam and Eve had just been thrown out of The Garden and they jumped right into it.

Jim
 
Yes it's worth it. I want to be able to have another child. It's my right to have children. How is it fair that some 70+ year old gets to have 4 kids, but I can't have 2 because times are too tough and by the time it settles, I'm too old to bear children?

I would gladly die at 70 and be able to have children then live to 100 and not be able to have children. What's the point of living without family? We can't move on if the economy is too messed up. Look at NYC's data. Only 11 people out of 1096 deaths were under 65 and had no underlying conditions. The at risk group can stay inside and use instacart. The rest of us need to keep the country going. It's going to drag until there's a vaccine or herd immunity. They're just not openly saying it to keep people calm. Anyone with a basic understanding of infectious disease knows you can't stomp out something this contagious and widespread unless you have a vaccine.

Yeah it's not like us old people need to go to drs, hospitals,have any work done around our house, We will just stay here in our homes without any human contact slowly becoming golem because food is the only human need. Or better yet just die because we are so inconvenient for those young families. I am going to guess you are not 69.
 
Yeah it's not like us old people need to go to drs, hospitals,have any work done around our house, We will just stay here in our homes without any human contact slowly becoming golem because food is the only human need. Or better yet just die because we are so inconvenient for those young families. I am going to guess you are not 69.

Just out of curiosity, how old are you?
 
Just out of curiosity, how old are you?

Old enough to know that abandoning our old people is very very very selfish.

I am a few months shy of the post I responded to's limit for being of any value.

But if your asking that you need to know I do have risk factors for higher risk. So does my wife, DIL , son, and grand daughter.
 
Old enough to know that abandoning our old people is very very very selfish.

I am a few months shy of the post I responded to's limit for being of any value.

I am assuming you are between 65 and 69 based on your reply. That is fine. I am 54. I am not that far off from the high risk group. I just wonder if TUG members are more worried bc they are closer to being high risk. Personally, I have never had much health anxiety so getting sick from coronavirus is not top of mind for me. I do worry about other people in my family but not for myself.
 
People who are truly intelligent do not need to insult other people.
 
Poor math.
1.) Three percent of those infected are not killed. More like about .5% (half a skittle)
2.) Going out doesn't mean you catch the virus (or eat a skittle). Most who go out don't even see a skittle.
3.) No one takes a handful as that would mean the acquisition and death rate would be enormously higher than they are.
4.) "Going out" is not just to have a skittle, it's to work, get food, exercise, keep others from losing their jobs, stop the economy from collapsing. A far cry from having some candy.

Silly meme directed to those who accept false narratives as fact.
 
Yes it's worth it. I want to be able to have another child. It's my right to have children. How is it fair that some 70+ year old gets to have 4 kids, but I can't have 2 because times are too tough and by the time it settles, I'm too old to bear children?

I would gladly die at 70 and be able to have children then live to 100 and not be able to have children. What's the point of living without family? We can't move on if the economy is too messed up. Look at NYC's data. Only 11 people out of 1096 deaths were under 65 and had no underlying conditions. The at risk group can stay inside and use instacart. The rest of us need to keep the country going. It's going to drag until there's a vaccine or herd immunity. They're just not openly saying it to keep people calm. Anyone with a basic understanding of infectious disease knows you can't stomp out something this contagious and widespread unless you have a vaccine.
Just a reminder, this is what the poster said was worth it:

"Please keep a running count of how many healthcare workers you lose over the next many months and then come tell me it was all worth it. "

Perhaps those of you in healthcare, family in healthcare, would like to respond to this?
 
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