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Anyone Else Put a Deposit Down on a Tesla Model 3 ?

classiclincoln said:
There's one thing I haven't seen posted here. The fact that you are not restricted to charging your car at a supercharger station. You can charge your car with a regular 110 v outlet. The issue is that it takes twice as long.
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From what I've read a 110 outlet will provide ~3 miles per hour. A 220 washing dryer type connection (NEMA 14-50) will provide ~25-29 miles per hour.

https://www.teslamotors.com/sites/default/files/downloads/US/universalmobileconnector_nema_14-50.pdf

Reading more about this now...seems Tesla suggests that a 110 12A circuit will prove ~5 miles per hour for a S. It's likely that the 3 will be more efficient so could do better. Other forums report the tentative approximation of 1A = 1 mile per hour, so with 12A you'd end up with ~10A (80%) so might be able to get 10 miles per hour. Interesting, if accurate.

Similarly, a 30A circuit (as opposed to 50A) might be more than sufficient for many of us, since it will provide ~24 miles per hour. There seem to be many options.

Note: I do not pretend to be very knowledgable about electricity. I know how to plug things in, and how to trip fuses. :)
 
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Misleading to non tech people? Yes. Will non tech people be interested? Who knows? So to me, it's sort of verbal "fine print". For 35k, I'd read the fine print.
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Exactly. No doubt he could have been clearer.

Also, he's tweeted a bit since the announcement and it seems these types of options on the 3 will be much less expensive than they are on the S.
 
Solar City Just Produced Enough Power to Charge Every Telsa on the Planet - by Lucinda Shen/ Tech/ SolarCity/ Fortune/ fortune.com

"Billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk should be over the moon right now: The reveal of the Tesla Model 3 TSLA -2.81% at the end of March was a veritable success, while another company he’s involved in, SolarCity SCTY 3.67% , is also doing pretty well for itself.

As of March 22, the solar energy company’s customers officially produce enough electricity in a day to power Tesla’s fleet, according to a Thursday SolarCity blogpost.

That works out to eight million kilowatt-hours of electricity a day for the 107,000 or so Tesla Model S cars sold through the end of 2015. SolarCity noted that eight million kilowatt-hours is in fact enough to power 114,000 Tesla vehicles. SolarCity has about 230,000 customers...."

Richard
 
I think everyone is aware that a Tesla can be charged from a standard outlet. But a standard outlet only puts out 1.8kW (15A @ 120v). I haven't seen the exact size or charging specifications of the model 3 battery that provides 220 mile range, but for the sake of discussion let's say it's 44kWh. So it would take roughly 24 hours (44/1.8) of charging to go from depleted to full, assuming lossless charging. That's roughly 10 miles range per hour of charge. And I'm pretty sure I'm being overly optimistic here. So yeah, if you get to your destination and plug in, you might get 100 or so miles range added overnight, assuming you don't drive to dinner or the grocery, etc. Again, just math based on assumptions, but it's likely a pretty reasonable, if not optimistic, estimate.

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Telsa Model 3 Demand Startled Everyone, Even Musk; Now What? by John Voelcker/ Green Car Reports/ Venture Beat (VB)/ venturebeat.com

"To say that the auto industry has been startled by the volume of deposits on the Tesla Model 3 would be an understatement.

The number of potential buyers worldwide who have sent Tesla Motors $1,000 to reserve a place in line to buy the car is now approaching 400,000, said longtime executive Diarmuid O’Connell.

And at least one financial commentator has asked whether the total could be as high as 1 million by the time the car enters production.

The number of deposits startled CEO Elon Musk, as his flurry of tweets after the March 30 unveiling seemed to indicate.

And the massive deposit queue imposes some new and additional challenges on Tesla, on top of several huge hurdles it already had to overcome between now and the start of Model 3 production.

First, the new hurdles that have arisen since the Model 3 unveiling...."


Richard
 
Interesting that one can buy a low miles Nissan Leaf for around $10k. Would be fun to buy one and make a series hybrid out of it.

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Elan said:
Interesting that one can buy a low miles Nissan Leaf for around $10k. Would be fun to buy one and make a series hybrid out of it.
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Prolly due to the Tesla sign up. Where #1 DS lives in Redmond WA, Leafs (Leaves?) are thick. 'Course so are Tesla's & Ferrari's & other exotic iron. A measly 80 mile Leaf is yesterday's news.

But what is a series hybrid? Buy a bunch of 'em and station them every 50 miles so you can take a trip? But if you want a SERIOUS hybrid, buy a Prius or Volt.
 
Also curious what a "series hybrid" is.

The used low mileage Leafs on the market now are vehicles that are coming off leases. They were that price before the Tesla Model 3 announcements. I don't think it has anything to do with Tesla.
A number of people like electric vehicles but are wary of battery degradation thus they only do an EV lease, they don't buy EVs. That's why there are used Leafs out now that have low miles.
 
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A series hybrid uses both a motor and ICE, but only the motor connects to the drivetrain (power sources are configured in series). In a parallel hybrid, both motor and engine can drive the drivetrain (power sources are configured in parallel).
 
Tesla quality problems reported in the Wall Street Journal

One thing that struck me is Consumer Reports withdrew their recommendations.

Subscription required to read the article:mad: Sorry

"It will be years until the Model X’s longer term quality is well documented, but its predecessor, the Model S, has had a bumpy road. Consumer Reports last year pulled its recommendation for the Model S because of reliability problems even though reviewers loved driving the car so much they initially gave it the highest score ever.

Mark Rechtin, a Consumer Reports editor, said the product review magazine recommends avoiding new cars in the first year of production, especially those loaded with new technology. “This is one thing if you have the white-glove services,” he said. “The bigger concern is that you are starting to have tens of thousands of vehicles out in the fleet.”"

Cheers
 
A Prius for the 2020's: Telsa's 'Hell Bent' Push to Make the Model 3 Affordable - by Brooke Crothers/ Forbes/ Tech/ forbes.com

"Model 3 in, Prius out.

That’s my prediction. The most-prominent symbol to date of the green car, the Prius, could be replaced by the Model 3 — if Tesla can make lots of them. Elon Musk wasted no time this past week, during the company’s earnings conference call, in addressing just that: manufacturing and the laser-like focus – “hell bent” as he put it — the company needs to make the electric car that it was born to make. I like companies that obsess about manufacturing. That alone is a good indicator of future success. (The Intel INTC -1.03% of the 90s is a good example. And Toyota of course.) Musk made a great argument — largely overlooked by the numbers-centric media — for obsessing about manufacturing. “We believe that manufacturing technology is itself subject to a tremendous amount of innovation, and in fact we believe that there is more potential for innovation in manufacturing than there is in the design of a car by a long shot.” ..."

Richard
 
Can Telsa Meet Lofty Model 3 Production Goals With New Production Boss? - by Brooke Crothers/ Forbes/ Tech/ forbes.com

"Tesla Motors TSLA +0.25% announced that it has hired an Audi executive to oversee production as it looks to dispel lingering doubts about its ability to get a handle on production issues dogging its Model X — and the challenges ahead for the high-volume Model 3.

Tesla said on Friday afternoon that Peter Hochholdinger, who oversaw production of Audi’s A4, A5 and Q5 vehicles, would be joining Tesla as VP of Vehicle Production. Hochholdinger “will be responsible for continuing to increase and improve Model S and Model X production, as well as help build a scalable, cost-effective and quality manufacturing program specifically designed for Model 3,” Tesla said in a statement. This comes as two senior manufacturing executives leave the company.

What lies ahead for Hochholdinger?..."


Richard
 
Tesla Just Did Something It Hasn't Done in 3 Years - by Kevin Kelleher/ Business/ Autos/ Time/ time.com

"Elon Musk's electric automaker is beating almost everybody's expectations. Can it stay in high gear?

Depending on who you ask, Tesla is either on its way to becoming a huge force in the auto industry, or it’s a financial disaster waiting to happen. The electric automaker just made a strong case that, for now, the momentum is favoring the bulls..."

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Spencer Platt—Getty Images A Tesla model S sits parked in a new Tesla showroom and service center in Red Hook, Brooklyn on July 5, 2016 in New York City.

Richard
 
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So, I'm curious as to how many of us here who've put down a deposit are, at this point, likely to follow through with purchase? I'd put my odds at around 20%, primarily because I think the base version of the 3 will be very base. For the likely $40-45k that a more premium version will cost, there are other vehicles that suit my family better.
 
Elan said:
So, I'm curious as to how many of us here who've put down a deposit are, at this point, likely to follow through with purchase? I'd put my odds at around 20%, primarily because I think the base version of the 3 will be very base. For the likely $40-45k that a more premium version will cost, there are other vehicles that suit my family better.
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I probably won't follow through for the Model 3 anymore, but may keep the deposit in and see about transferring it to the new SUV or pickup when they are announced. Those two platforms interest me a lot more.
 
I just got my Tesla Model S about 3 months ago and had and am having a HORRIBLE experience with Tesla. In reading on the Tesla forum, I found out that I'm not the only one. Too many details to go over here, but feel free to contact me if you want details. I'd be cautious.
 
I'd say more curious than "excited". I'd be excited if I had money down on a soon-to-be-revealed P15.
 
I'm excited to see the cost of options and more details on the interior. Hopefully they launch the website car configuration feature.
 
I'll be ordering mine with the small battery and premium package (depending on Canadian pricing), so hopefully I'll be able to take delivery by next summer. It will be interesting to see the reviews from the car mags once they get the press cars out in the field. Can't imagine showrooms will have demo cars for another two to three months. Anybody here abandoning their reservation at this point?
 
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