Great add here Sarah. I had forgotten about that verbiage. Does it include a definition of the term Permitted User?
Creating a net new thread requires a bit more effort than simply moving offshoots from the main thread over to here. Not saying no - but this debate thread is a destination/placeholder for any/all content that starts in the main thread and needs to be moved to keep that thread on-topic over time.
I found the definition in the 2018 CWA POS (I knew I'd seen it somewhere, and fortunately I didn't have to go far down my list to find it lol).
Agreed. Hence why I kept referring back to the term Commercial Use - because as a general rule a commercial enterprise is engaged "for a profit." Fortunately @paxsarah provided the definition of Commercial Use which was found in the T&Cs for, of all things, Points Protection. Go figure. That said, how does Wyndham determine whether the rental is "for a profit" or not? It's a difficult problem to solve for I would think. That is likely why there is an appeals process for the cease-and-desist letters in the first place, since there will inevitably be false positives since no system is perfect.
I've added a new section to the FAQ sticky thread with the graphics included for Rental Related FAQs - it's a WIP at present but it's a start. Thanks for the due diligence on digging up these items. Here's a link to the FAQ page - the Rental Related FAQ is the last section listed in the OP: https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/s...before-posting-questions-in-the-forum.355645/
I would imagine, legally, that since these T&Cs are found in points protection, this definition only applies to points protection. I don't think you can extrapolate it to other uses of the word. That being said, it's been a long time since contracts class at night school law school. Might want to ask @chapjim . Either way, it's a good starting point and pretty amazing that you could pull it up.
Is Foxhunt at Sapphire Valley still open and a part of Wyndham? It shows in the list of resorts on the website but doesn't allow you to book it. This is under "Resort Alerts" on the website: The resort will remain closed through at least Sunday, Oct. 12, 2024, and may be extended based on local conditions. Currently, most roadways to the property are not accessible.
Unless I'm mistaken - on average the time between the initial resort closure votes and the actual Omni website page listing anything once the bankruptcy is filed - is approximately 3-4 months. When we look at OIRC - the filing appears to have occurred on 10/23/2025 - and that resort voted at the very beginning of Aug 2025 - so roughly a three month lead time. The larger and more complex the resort - the longer the lead time. In general, we have observed that the resorts that contain whole ownerships - tend to take longer to file due to added complexity - those resorts seem to be averaging 4-6 months. So, Shawnee closed on 3/31/2026 - so we're coming up on five months out - I'd estimate we will see a filing sometime in September timeframe. Just like many other industries - once we hit the summer months - people - yes including judges and clerks and lawyers - burn up vacation time - and this inevitably leads to additional delays within a system that already moves slowly - hence why I'd estimate the we'll see a late September filing for Shawnee - this is merely an educated guess and is just speculation on my part to be clear. Though it is certainly in Wyndham's best interest to have this all go as quickly as is possible - that much is certain - they aren't holding anything up - they want this whole process shored up and done ASAP.
My understanding is the whole owners were offered options - what exactly those options were I am not certain - though IIRC one of the Shawnee owners that has posted into this thread - is actually a whole owner - so perhaps they may see this and respond with more details.
You have it right, but instead of "limited" above, you probably mean or should mean "significant". If Wyndham has decided not to continue to future revenues at a property they have majority control of the HOA, that spells doom for the property. Wyndham had all the input in what unfolded at these properties, not limited input.
In the case of the resorts that closed at the end of 2025, the HOAs voted to end timeshare operations and sell the resorts using a bankruptcy process. Wyndham holds a controlling voting majority of the inventory at each of the resorts (through direct ownership of intervals/points and controlling the vote of the PTVO/Club Wyndham Access trust). There is no potential for a business continuation plan and the path forward (closure and sale) was already chosen by vote of the HOA.
correction -- "vote of the HOA owners/membership"
I intended “HOA” to mean the entirety of the membership. It I had meant only the HOA board, I would have said “HOA board.”