I only had this issue when I had a week booked. I had to cancel the week and get the SOs. Then I could elect Abound points.
I can understand that. In my case one of the two SFlex contracts was completely untouched and on the other it knew I could elect one increment of 20K and I chose that option. So definitely they are still working on it.
If your rules are the same as those of Marriott Abound members, then yes.
2023…. Apparently
Question on your interval statement….let’s say you want to book a non Marriott/vistana resort but my Vistana unit doesn’t see the unit, can I convert that to abound points equal to a studio? If so, will those studio points pull 1 bedrooms or 2 bedrooms with the option to pay an upgrade fee?
It is. But I am a Marriott Chairman Club points owner. I see that the WK is available any day of the month in March. But I am also a Vistana owner. I see no availability on the Vistana site. I also see this with the Westin Kaanapali. I am not sure how this is working. I am afraid maybe that some people on this site are correct about how availability works. So are Vistana owners getting a raw deal? I don't know. But even without the Abound piece, I am still puzzled and annoyed with the way any availability works!! For example, I was trying to get Marriott Grand Chateau in December recently, and the week I wanted was never available as a Marriott timeshare points owner. But it was available on the Marriott Hotel Website!!! Why!!! At times weeks are available on Interval, even though there is no availability as a timeshare owner.
First, others are much more familiar with II than me, so I welcome anybody to correct anything I get wrong and/or to flush out the basics.
This is nothing new and it happens with every timeshare system that's affiliated with a hotel system. What happens with Marriott timeshares when an owner elects Bonvoy Points or any of the cruise/hotel/etc options is that Marriott Vacations Worldwide has to pay the option provider (Marriott, Int'l/Bonvoy/cruise companies) for the exchanged usage, and then they try to monetize it to recoup the cost. It isn't that the hotel company is poaching the timeshare intervals that should be available for owners; it's that owners' elections give rights to those timeshare intervals to MVW which in turn uses the hotel platform to recoup the costs.
I’d assume
That helps a lot actually. I’d be thinking more for DVC reservations. So I’d need to convert without knowing when I’d be getting available inventory. It’s probably not wise to go that routeFirst, others are much more familiar with II than me, so I welcome anybody to correct anything I get wrong and/or to flush out the basics.
When you use Abound Points in II it's according to a points chart and if there's availability you can pull any inventory for which you have the points. Here's a recent post on the Marriott forum with the chart. Effectively it works more like the Abound Points chart than it does the typical II exchange with contrasting the value of what you deposit and what you can pull, and no upgrade fees are involved. But I believe that Abound Points can be used in II only to pull non-Marriott (and now assuming non-Vistana inventory) so an external exchange fee will be charged.
Then if true this tells me that Abound will starve VSN of inventory. Am I looking at this right?
Is there a minimum stay requirement? I tried searching for just 1 night and didn't see anything.
It is concerning; from a PR and customer satisfaction standpoint, it would be a good idea for MVC to explain how/why this is happening, even if only in general terms.Now we know Marriott took all this inventory for Abound. back in June, still in the Home Resort reservation period for most owners.
I posted this back in June (see post link below).
I highly doubt Marriott owns enough Platinum Kierland weeks to scoop up all the Feb/March inventory. So how was this allowed?
Looking beyond 8 mo to preview availability
Are we no longer able to see beyond the 8 mo point for a possible staroption reservation? It used to show when the window would open and now I only see 8 mo out. Trying to figure out if I should log in right when it opens at 8 mo and look for the 2 consecutive days I'd like to add before my 1...
I was just wondering the same thing. I have never used II for my Vistana week, but I am considering depositing a 2023 week soon. Will I be able to trade into a Marriott week for free and will I still have to wait longer than if I deposited a Marriott week? With Vistana, am I late in depositing a 2023 week for trade value? I do not understand the way Vistana gives a blended value since I would be depositing a Maui week.
Yes if it’s a whole VOI . I just did it with SVR
Yes I understand there's a system. I guess you just have to see if you can get what you want by understanding it. Like quite often, Marriott releases a ton of weeks for a particular timeshare on Interval. You cannot trade a Marriott VC for a Marriott timeshare on interval, but I have another timeshare that I do that with. So I can actually get a Marriott week for a lot less than using my Marriott VC points.Anyway, it is what it is. I was just complaining but know that it won't change.
I think it will take a couple of years of trying to book via VSN to know for sure. I hope not, but Day One is a little bit worrisome.
