Abound resale opinions desired

[Swimmom5]

Thank you to those who tried to help me. I was originally viewing the webinar on my iPhone unsuccessfully. I went ahead and used my desktop computer and used Chrome. Viola! It worked!!! I’m gonna keep an eye out for the email from Marriott about completing my enrollment to Abound. I really appreciate everyone that tried to help this newbie.

My next question is, should I enroll this year if I already reserved and banked my 2026 usage to Interval? Or should I wait to enroll my 2027 usage to Abound?

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

Dioxide, I have watched the webinar multiple times now. It still stalls in the same section. Just before I can finish the webinar. I even chatted with the virtual help on MVC’s website. I think enrolling my weeks to Abound is a good choice, but I wouldn’t want to have to pay the enrollment dues if I qualify for a free enrollment. Thank you to you & David for trying to help me. Hopefully I can enroll eventually.

The simplest thing may be to call Marriott Owner Services directly at 800-845-4226 and ask them outright if you would be able to enroll your weeks at no charge.

If they say yes then do it immediately as they could always begin charging next week, next month or next year.














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[dioxide45]

Dioxide, I have watched the webinar multiple times now. It still stalls in the same section. Just before I can finish the webinar. I even chatted with the virtual help on MVC’s website. I think enrolling my weeks to Abound is a good choice, but I wouldn’t want to have to pay the enrollment dues if I qualify for a free enrollment. Thank you to you & David for trying to help me. Hopefully I can enroll eventually.

Also make sure you have any blockers turned off.

 

[dioxide45]

Thank you to those who tried to help me. I was originally viewing the webinar on my iPhone unsuccessfully. I went ahead and used my desktop computer and used Chrome. Viola! It worked!!! I’m gonna keep an eye out for the email from Marriott about completing my enrollment to Abound. I really appreciate everyone that tried to help this newbie.

My next question is, should I enroll this year if I already reserved and banked my 2026 usage to Interval? Or should I wait to enroll my 2027 usage to Abound?

It doesn’t matter. You don’t enroll a specific usage year. Once enrolled, you will use up your 2026 weeks in your existing II account and then deposit 2027 into the new II account they create for your Abound enrollment.

 

[Swimmom5]

It doesn’t matter. You don’t enroll a specific usage year. Once enrolled, you will use up your 2026 weeks in your existing II account and then deposit 2027 into the new II account they create for your Abound enrollment.

If I enroll now, will I have to pay the 2026 Abound fee ($255) Or will they wait to charge me in 2027?

 

[dioxide45]

If I enroll now, will I have to pay the 2026 Abound fee ($255) Or will they wait to charge me in 2027?

I suspect it will be first billed at the end of this year for 2027. That is how they’ve always done it when enrolling mid year.

 

[Swimmom5]

Perfect! Thanks so much! I’m so sorry for all these questions. You guys have all been so helpful. I was afraid someone might kick me out of this forum for asking so many questions

 

[davidvel]

Perfect! Thanks so much! I’m so sorry for all these questions. You guys have all been so helpful. I was afraid someone might kick me out of this forum for asking so many questions

Not at all. That is what this whole place is about!

 

[Swimmom5]

Not at all. That is what this whole place is about!

I see that you’re in San Diego David! Our son graduated from SDSU last year, so we’ve spent a lot of time in SD the last 4 years. We’re in South OC so not too far from SD. I don’t really follow baseball, but my favorite SoCal football team is the Chargers!

I recently traded one of my 2br unit on interval for the Frenchman’s Cove. Looking forward to staying there late Aug into Labor Day weekend. It’ll be our first time going to USVI.

 

[davidvel]

I see that you’re in San Diego David! Our son graduated from SDSU last year, so we’ve spent a lot of time in SD the last 4 years. We’re in South OC so not too far from SD. I don’t really follow baseball, but my favorite SoCal football team is the Chargers!

I recently traded one of my 2br unit on interval for the Frenchman’s Cove. Looking forward to staying there late Aug into Labor Day weekend. It’ll be our first time going to USVI.

Well, sorry to hear that. Used to be rabid fans of the bolts. Since Spanos bailed on San Diego we despise everything about that team. Grew up in LA as a Rams fan and that is who we root for now.

Enjoy your trip to the islands!

 

[Swimmom5]

Well, sorry to hear that. Used to be rabid fans of the bolts. Since Spanos bailed on San Diego we despise everything about that team. Grew up in LA as a Rams fan and that is who we root for now.

Enjoy your trip to the islands!

Oh no! I like underdogs. So between the Rams & Chargers I’ll take the Chargers. Eventho the hubby refers to them as the choking Chargers. He’s a Rams fan. I have similar feelings on the Rams. Being an OC girl, I saw them leave us for St. Louis as a kid. So by the time they came back, I had moved on to a different team.

 

[Swimmom5]

I suspect it will be first billed at the end of this year for 2027. That is how they’ve always done it when enrolling mid year.

 

[Swimmom5]

I suspect it will be first billed at the end of this year for 2027. That is how they’ve always done it when enrolling mid year.

Dioxide, I received the email from MVC this morning regarding my request to enroll my weeks to Abound. I made sure the enrollment fee says zero. Total points for the 2 units total to 4650. I’m curious to see what I could get for that?

 

[Fasttr]

Dioxide, I received the email from MVC this morning regarding my request to enroll my weeks to Abound. I made sure the enrollment fee says zero. Total points for the 2 units total to 4650. I’m curious to see what I could get for that?

2027 Points Charts

Thanks to some help from @DJmonkey and @DanCali with these, here are the 2027 points charts combined as a single PDF. @StevenTing could you upload this to VPE?

tugbbs.com

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

Perfect! Thanks so much! I’m so sorry for all these questions. You guys have all been so helpful. I was afraid someone might kick me out of this forum for asking so many questions

This is a perfect opportunity to sign up and become and official TUG member (and leave the "Guest" designation in the rear view mirror).

Go to the blue bar above, click on "Join TUG". It will be the best $15 you ever spend.












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[equitax]

To pass the Marriott ROFR you would need to spend a minimum amount of $3.00 to $3.50 per point, and then add another $3.00 per point if you'd like to always be able to book beyond a 60 day timeframe.

So for $6.50 per point you'll have the same points that Marriott is charging around $16.50 per point (or higher).

Once you have your points (or a resale week) you'll always be in a position to "rent" additional points if ever needed.

Personally, a resale week is a better value to me, but most folks prefer the flexibility of points.












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So I know this is an old thread but I’ve been away for a bit- bought a deeded week in Aruba (from Marriott to boot) right before Covid is ordered to be able to enroll my other Marriott stuff. Then Covid happened so I paid my Mf banked when I could and forfeited a bunch of points (including the spiffs for buying direct) and only really stareted using agin in2023, but mostly points.

Personally I’m kind of torn between weeks and II vs points, it the weeks and II seem to consistently be a simple bang for the buck especially if you are flexible in where to go. Aruba surf club 2bdr platinum split and deposite will usually get you two weeks and two acs and that goes much further than the 4075 points will take you. Buying the week to use for points was effectively 7.11/pt but the mf are 56.43/pt. Vs 18.5 for trust points. So if you really want points, I think the landed cost of 6 or 6.25 per point on resale is the better bet , but you will be limited to what points can get you and I had not been aware that no Marriott will show up if you exchange points which is a bummer.

I don’t think that it will even make sense to try to book an Aruba week with trust points vs having a deeded in season week, so if your go to place is one of those that’s where you should own a week -resale preferably.

The problem one can also run into is owning a week in a resort you can almost always get into (like grande vista where I own a 3br plat) as you can usually get in via exchange, or heavily discounted points or sometimes even better off paying the cash rate from Marriott. So in my grande vista case where vs trust points mf are 72.5c/pt , that’s a tough nut. The flip side being you can still go the old fashioned routed with splitting a 3bdr depositing and getting 2 decent Marriott weeks. Maybe with an upgrade fee on the lock off - and maybe squeeze some value out of acs.

One place where points really do come in handy mind you is finding 6 days where there is no week for example or avoiding weekend premiums on points.

Give. The number of points listed for sale at close to zero that will likely never pass rofr, the points system is certainly far from perfect.

 

[tomvc]

So in my grande vista case where vs trust points mf are 72.5c/pt , that’s a tough nut.

Abound / Destination Club points maintenance fee is 82 cents per point.

 

[Dean]

The number of points listed for sale at close to zero that will likely never pass rofr, the points system is certainly far from perfect.

All variations have the plusses and minuses whether it be floating weeks, points or fixed week/fixed unit options. Points is great from a sales standpoint. Even within each group there are variations. Wyndham and Bluegreen still base their points and the reservations directly on the underlying weeks which accounts for the inherent inefficiencies of a points system. When MVC rolled out the weeks they did so as a blanket system where the reservations were not tied directly to the weeks system which they likely needed to do because of the floating weeks component. My interpretation of the "points skim" is to account for this inefficiency as well as to update and reallocate the "cost" rather than simply greed though I believe they were overly cautious in some cases. The fact that the weeks they controlled were lower demand weeks further limited the system.

I use weeks, II and points each to their advantage which in my case means I own weeks to use, weeks to exchange and weeks for points with a little overlap. I use points for shorter stays, smaller units, to extend weeks (either owned or exchanges), as a placeholder trying for an exchange and for added volume (extra weeks family trip) when needed. This has worked out perfectly in our case.

 

[equitax]

It will come to a shock to no one that Marriott did not let my 62cents per point past rofr. Still feels good that an owner who wanted out didn’t have to pay 2027 MF for mori to take it back

 

[dioxide45]

It will come to a shock to no one that Marriott did not let my 62cents per point past rofr. Still feels good that an owner who wanted out didn’t have to pay 2027 MF for mori to take it back

please log the ROFR details at ROFR.net.

 

[equitax]

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