Ability to Get Desired Week with EOY Gold Ownership

[bsgtshares]

Hi, fellow TUG members, I hope you are well. I am considering buying a deeded resale EOY (Odd) 2 BR Premier Gold season week (19-22 and 36-41) at the Hilton Grand Waikikian. In general I am interested in week 22 (a family birthday week), so Gold makes sense for me. The listing agent said that points are allocated in January, which I think means I'd be able to try and make the reservation just 22 weeks ahead of my desired usage.

I am a long-time Marriott owner, with no experience with HGVC but have considered getting into the system over recent years. I am hoping that others who own deeded EOY weeks in Gold season (GW/HHV or otherwise) can tell me: 1) if they must wait until their points are allocated in January of their use year to make a reservation for that year, or if they are able to (try and) reserve a year ahead with the expectation that their points will be appropriately allocated to cover their reservation; 2) their experience in getting weeks during that earlier part of the Gold season at their home resort; and 3) experience getting weeks they want at other resorts.

Hope the above is clear and makes sense; thanks in advance!

 

[HuskerATL]

Unless you own a fixed week, then you own in a season not a week. You can book in your season 9 to 12 months out but you would not be guaranteed week 22. You are competing with every gold season owner for any given gold season week.

 

[SmithOp]

I doubt you will have a problem, I used to own a Gold season Lagoon premier, never had a problem booking my home week right at 12 months when the week opened up. We liked to go the week including Memorial weekend and attend the lantern festival at Ala Moana.

You pay for your points in January, but you can make a reservation before paying dues. You can borrow points from one year in the future but only for club reservation, not your home week.

 

[bsgtshares]

I doubt you will have a problem, I used to own a Gold season Lagoon premier, never had a problem booking my home week right at 12 months when the week opened up. We liked to go the week including Memorial weekend and attend the lantern festival at Ala Moana.

You pay for your points in January, but you can make a reservation before paying dues. You can borrow points from one year in the future but only for club reservation, not your home week.

Hi, Dave, thanks for your response. The listing agent for the Grand Waikikian week stated that the week could not be reserved until points were allocated in January of the usage year, but your description is consistent with experience I have with Marriott and another resort for EOY weeks - and your experience at HHV for the same week I am most interested in is encouraging.

 

[bsgtshares]

Unless you own a fixed week, then you own in a season not a week. You can book in your season 9 to 12 months out but you would not be guaranteed week 22. You are competing with every gold season owner for any given gold season week.

Hi, HuskerATL, thanks for your response. I'm familiar with how seasons vs. fixed weeks work, and was looking for insight specifically about experience with the timeframe for making reservations within the HGVC system for EOY weeks.

 

[GT75]

You listing agent doesn’t know how the HGVC system works. On a HW (home week) booking, you can only book exactly what you own in the season that you own with correct years points available.

 

[bsgtshares]

You listing agent doesn’t know how the HGVC system works. On a HW (home week) booking, you can only book exactly what you own in the season that you own with correct years points available.

Hi, GT75, thanks for your response. I agree with you that the listing agent probably doesn't know how the HGVC system works, but there isn't any question about which season the booking/reservation is to be for - my question is about when the reservation for the week can be made. While I'm not familiar with HGVC's system, her guidance about that was inconsistent with my overall experience with EOY timeshares, but thankfully the information provided earlier by an HGVC owner who also happened to own a week similar to that which I am considering helped address my questions. Thanks.

 

[GT75]

You will be able to book 365 days before check-in date as long as you meet all HW booking restrictions.

btw, both 2025 and 2026 years points are already in our accounts.

 

[bsgtshares]

You will be able to book 365 days before check-in date as long as you meet all HW booking restrictions.

btw, both 2025 and 2026 years points are already in our accounts.

Hi, GT75, thanks for your additional response. The week I'm looking at is an EOY Odd year, so only 2025 is open - but knowing that points for 2025 are already in accounts gives me something to have the listing agent check into, and make sure are passed along if I decide to proceed with the purchase - or have the current owners use to make a reservation for a week I want, rather than wait for the sale to close. Thanks again!

 

[Reddart]

Normally yes you can book a homeweek 365 days before and would want to do that early to make sure you get the week you want, but in this case since you will just be getting the points now, it will depend on availability when you get the points.

 

[Reddart]

FYI, the availability I can see right now:

 

[bsgtshares]

Normally yes you can book a homeweek 365 days before and would want to do that early to make sure you get the week you want, but in this case since you will just be getting the points now, it will depend on availability when you get the points.

Hi, Reddart, thanks for your response. Certainly understood - this makes sense to me, but is not what the listing agent had said. Based on my experience with other systems and yours and other responses I'm convinced that she was incorrect. Thanks.

 

[bsgtshares]

FYI, the availability I can see right now:
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Hi, Reddart, thanks for your additional response - this is VERY helpful! If I understand it correctly, even now there is still availability for booking a 2BR Premier on Thursday, Friday or Saturday, May 29 to 31 - which coincides with the start of week 22 - by those for which Grand Waikikian is their home resort. This is quite reassuring that I'd be able to get that week since I'd never wait this long before making a reservation. I had asked the listing agent to look into this for me, but she was not able to do so. Thanks again!

 

[HuskerATL]

Hi, HuskerATL, thanks for your response. I'm familiar with how seasons vs. fixed weeks work, and was looking for insight specifically about experience with the timeframe for making reservations within the HGVC system for EOY weeks.

Once you close, you should get your 2025 points and can start booking. You don't need to wait until January. I can book with 2026 points right now. We get points 2 years ahead of time so once we are in 2025, you will get your 2027 points and can borrow from them to book in 2026.

It doesn't sound like the sales person provided you with correct info but that isn't unusual. It is common that they provide incorrect info.

 

[bsgtshares]

Once you close, you should get your 2025 points and can start booking. You don't need to wait until January. I can book with 2026 points right now. We get points 2 years ahead of time so once we are in 2025, you will get your 2027 points and can borrow from them to book in 2026.

It doesn't sound like the sales person provided you with correct info but that isn't unusual. It is common that they provide incorrect info.

Hi, HuskerATL, thanks for your note. It's certainly nice to have points 2 years ahead, which I would think makes it very easy to "borrow" points from a future year. Do you know if that's done for EOY weeks or just for annual ownerships?

 

[HuskerATL]

Hi, HuskerATL, thanks for your note. It's certainly nice to have points 2 years ahead, which I would think makes it very easy to "borrow" points from a future year. Do you know if that's done for EOY weeks or just for annual ownerships?

Both. Many EOY owners borrow from the point years for non-point year use. you pay club dues every year so that you can always use the club.

 

[bsgtshares]

Both. Many EOY owners borrow from the point years for non-point year use. you pay club dues every year so that you can always use the club.

Excellent to hear! Thanks once again for your insight!

 

[GT75]

this is VERY helpful! If I understand it correctly, even now there is still availability for booking a 2BR Premier on Thursday, Friday or Saturday, May 29 to 31 - which coincides with the start of week 22 - by those for which Grand Waikikian is their home resort.

Understand, if you book Thursday - Saturday, you are booking club season. This is the same as any HGVC owner. HW booking are very specific.

Home Week reservations are consecutive night reservations at the Home Resort in the season​

and unit type owned, for the number of days owned, checking in on the resort’s standard or​

available check-in day (“Home Week”). Members have a priority reservation period to reserve their​

Home Week during the “Home Week Priority Reservation Window” without competing for such​

reservation with other Members other than those owning the same suite configuration and season​

at the same resort. This window lasts approximately 90 days beginning one year (365 days) prior​

to the desired check-in date and ending nine months (276 days) in advance of the desired check-​

in date.​

After the Home Week Priority Reservation Window ends, Members will no longer have an exclusive​

window to book their Home Week, however, they may still make a Home Week reservation, subject to availability.​

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edited to add: btw, check-in day for a HW reservation is Saturday at GW.

 

[GT75]

Many EOY owners borrow from the point years for non-point year use. you pay club dues every year so that you can always use the club.

But once an only EOY owner starts borrowing, they can not longer book HW for the year that they borrow from.

 

[HuskerATL]

But once an only EOY owner starts borrowing, they can not longer book HW for the year that they borrow from.

True and a good tip.

And good to remind them about using HW and they it is exactly what you own, no variations.

 

[ABCTravels]

To the OP, a lot of great information is coming at you on this thread and when this happens to me I sometimes miss small details. I just wanted to be sure you understand that anyone looking to book their "home week" use for week 22 of the year 2025 did so at the 12 month mark (or before the 9 month club season opened) which is now past. Any reservation you make for week 22 of the year 2025 will be a "club season" reservation because it is now less than 9 months from that week, therefore it's "club season" where any HGVC owner can book any room.

This isn't to say you can't still reserve exactly what you own, per the information above, and make a "home week reservation," but you are no longer in the "home week exclusive" booking window, therefore exactly what you own may not be available. To put this example more specifically, if you wanted to go for week 22 in the year 2027 (the next year you would have a home week advantage) then you would make that booking exactly 12 months out in 2026.

Hope this helps.

 

[bsgtshares]

True and a good tip.

And good to remind them about using HW and they it is exactly what you own, no variations.

Thank you, HuskerATL. Fully understood!

 

[bsgtshares]

To the OP, a lot of great information is coming at you on this thread and when this happens to me I sometimes miss small details. I just wanted to be sure you understand that anyone looking to book their "home week" use for week 22 of the year 2025 did so at the 12 month mark (or before the 9 month club season opened) which is now past. Any reservation you make for week 22 of the year 2025 will be a "club season" reservation because it is now less than 9 months from that week, therefore it's "club season" where any HGVC owner can book any room.

This isn't to say you can't still reserve exactly what you own, per the information above, and make a "home week reservation," but you are no longer in the "home week exclusive" booking window, therefore exactly what you own may not be available. To put this example more specifically, if you wanted to go for week 22 in the year 2027 (the next year you would have a home week advantage) then you would make that booking exactly 12 months out in 2026.

Hope this helps.

Hi, ABCTravels, thanks for your response. I agree - there has been some great information, and I appreciate all of it. As I said in my opening post, I am well experienced with Marriott (long-time owner with multiple weeks) but not with HGVC, and the combination of posts has educated me greatly - and confirmed what I thought might be incorrect information I received from the listing agent. Thanks again!

 

[bsgtshares]

But once an only EOY owner starts borrowing, they can not longer book HW for the year that they borrow from.

Thank you, GT75, helpful to know!