A security guard is shot and killed after telling customer to put on a face mask

[missyrcrews]

I am often at the front door at Target these days. Maine now has mandated that people wear face masks when they are in places that are difficult to socially distance...and stores are one of those places. I've said here how I feel about face masks (not a fan), but a mandate is a mandate, and that's not the hill I choose to die on, so I calmly inform people of the requirement. Most people either fish their mask out of their pocket or leave. But there are a few that just have to use it to rail against "the man" and their rights and so on. Too bad that masks don't obliterate eye rolls. But they do indeed hide one's tongue sticking out...

 

[MrockStar]

So they are wackos.

Or, he got in the way of an armed robbery attempt at the dollar store and the robber for got his mask.

 

[am1]

A shame that this happens and will continue to happen. While the criminals get off with very little punishment.

 

[LisaRex]

So they are wackos.

Clearly.

 

[SmithOp]

seems like dollar stores attract wackos.

Video shows man who was told to wear mask wiping nose on Dollar Tree employee's shirt

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[linpat]

The scary thing is that these pieces of trash can vote.

 

[am1]

The scary thing is that these pieces of trash can vote.

Dont say that or the SJW's will be after you protecting their rights.

 

[Panina]

This is tragic. Violent people are violent. If this incident didn’t trigger the rage another incident would eventually.

 

[Talent312]

In my observation of the criminal justice over the years...
There's essentially three distinct types of criminals in our system:
-- People who do stupid stuff without thinking about consequences.
-- Genuinely evil people who intentionally set out to hurt others.
-- Mentally impaired or insane people who need meds or a hospital.

The perpetrators of this act are genuinely evil.
Evil-doers deserve the harshest punishment.
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[davidvel]

Some citizens believe that the government has overstepped its constitutional authority by mandating that its citizens don masks. They are rebelling, oftentimes violently, against what they believe is a campaign to strip them of their civil liberties.

Masks Become a Flash Point in the Virus Culture Wars (Published 2020)

As people resume going out in public in the middle of a pandemic, to wear or not to wear a face mask has become a personal statement and sometimes a political one.

www.nytimes.com

Protesters hit the streets as mask regulations take effect

Some protesters quickly defied new mask regulations Friday as public health officials announced plans to hire hundreds of nurses and contact tracers whose work will be vital to reopening the local …

www.sandiegouniontribune.com

But there is no evidence that these scum were some type of civil rights activists at all. Totally irrelevant.

 

[geist1223]

Some citizens believe that the government has overstepped its constitutional authority by mandating that its citizens don masks. They are rebelling, oftentimes violently, against what they believe is a campaign to strip them of their civil liberties.

Masks Become a Flash Point in the Virus Culture Wars (Published 2020)

As people resume going out in public in the middle of a pandemic, to wear or not to wear a face mask has become a personal statement and sometimes a political one.

www.nytimes.com

Protesters hit the streets as mask regulations take effect

Some protesters quickly defied new mask regulations Friday as public health officials announced plans to hire hundreds of nurses and contact tracers whose work will be vital to reopening the local …

www.sandiegouniontribune.com

They are poorly educated wackos. No Constitutional Right is absolute. Depending on the part of the Constitution and how intrusive is the Governmental Action the test is strict scrutiny or reasonableness. Even the 4th Amendment only protects one from an unreasonable search or unreasonable seizure (two separate issues). The USSC to make it easier for the lower courts and ruled that a search or seizure without a Warrant was presumed unreasonable. But the Government could overcome this presumption with the right evidence and the USSC started creating all sorts of exceptions to this Rule.

So no matter what these people think (if that is even a proper description for what they do) the Governmental Action is proper and would most likely be upheld.

 

[MULTIZ321]

Customers shot 2 McDonald's employees after being told to leave due to coronavirus restrictions.

Customer shot a McDonald's employee after being told to leave due to coronavirus restrictions, police say | CNN

A woman has been arrested on suspicion of shooting a fast-food worker and injuring others after they told her to leave a McDonald's restaurant in Oklahoma City on Wednesday, police said.

edition.cnn.com

Richard

 

[Tamaradarann]

Sounds like violence is just that family’s way of life. Truly sad.

I am not sure why you are saying that. Do they have previous violent offenses like assault, battery, robbery, manslaughter in their record. I have believed for a long time that after a first violent conviction an individual should be offered unlimited counselling for an extended period of time before release from incarceration back into the public. If the person believes that they can control themselves they can be released after signing a perpectual probation certification. The certification states that if they commit and are convicted of a second violent crime that the death penalty will be implemmented without appeal. I have little tolerance for violent crimes.

 

[RX8]

I am not sure why you are saying that. Do they have previous violent offenses like assault, battery, robbery, manslaughter in their record. I have believed for a long time that after a first violent conviction an individual should be offered unlimited counselling for an extended period of time before release from incarceration back into the public. If the person believes that they can control themselves they can be released after signing a perpectual probation certification. The certification states that if they commit and are convicted of a second violent crime that the death penalty will be implemmented without appeal. I have little tolerance for violent crimes.

I was responding to the very first post about the Family Tree shooting, is that the one you are questioning?

A lady gets upset because a security guard told her masks were required. Her response is to drive all the way home, pick up her husband, son and a gun, drive all the way back to the store, and murder the security guard. Anyone who does that, making it a family affair, and with plenty of time in between to have a chance to cool off and think of ramifications, in my view is a family that looks to violence as a solution. So yeah, while I have no idea of previous convictions their family’s reaction to a rather benign issue makes me think that violence is this family’s way of life.

 

[CanuckTravlr]

Yes it was in Oklahoma.

Customers shot 2 McDonald's employees after being told to leave due to coronavirus restrictions.

Customer shot a McDonald's employee after being told to leave due to coronavirus restrictions, police say | CNN

A woman has been arrested on suspicion of shooting a fast-food worker and injuring others after they told her to leave a McDonald's restaurant in Oklahoma City on Wednesday, police said.

edition.cnn.com

Richard

So is there something funny going on in Oklahoma? Or is there something in the air? or the water? Just because some people don't think anyone should be able to tell them to wear a mask to help prevent the spread of Covid-19?

I know this type of moronic behaviour is certainly not exclusive to Oklahoma, but I have real trouble understanding how anyone even thinks this is somehow appropriate!!

 

[Brett]

So is there something funny going on in Oklahoma? Or is there something in the air? or the water? Just because some people don't think anyone should be able to tell them to wear a mask to help prevent the spread of Covid-19?

I know this type of moronic behaviour is certainly not exclusive to Oklahoma, but I have real trouble understanding how anyone even thinks this is somehow appropriate!!

probably not ... and not appropriate
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/us/mcdonalds-employees-shot-coronavirus/index.html

 

[geist1223]

I was with The Douglas County District Attorney's Office for 9.5 years in Roseburg Oregon. We regularly had to deal with the fringe folks - so called Constitutionalists and Oregon Militia Members. The Oregon Militia Members were the more dangerous of the two. We were told to assume they were always armed. I started carrying full time.

 

[Talent312]

I once encountered a Sovereign Citizen talking about how the government was illegal, had no authority to impose its laws on him, and thus, he could ignore court orders. I tried to explain the practicalities. I said, "The problem is they've got a lot of cops with guns who follow orders, and if you go up against them, the chances are good that you'll end up behind bars or dead, and they'll be on the outside looking in, no matter how right you are."

IDK if that left any impression.

 

[TravelTime]

I always assume that people who kill other people have severe mental illness and/or a severe personality disorder (which is also a form of mental illness). It is not normal to kill people because you are frustrated. In this regard, I can feel some compassion for the murderers because they are not normal. This does not justify murder but it helps me to understand why they might have resorted to murdering. I think only someone who is mentally ill would kill someone else. Some might say they are not mentally ill, just evil. I would respond that evil is not normal either. People who are that evil must be mentally ill.

 

[MULTIZ321]

Armed Anti-Lockdown Protestor Hits Up Subway With Rocket Launcher.

Armed Anti-Lockdown Protestor Hits Up Subway With Rocket Launcher

On Saturday, TMZ reported that about a dozen protestors were spotted inside a Subway sandwich shop chowing down, all the while holding firearms.

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Richard

 

[dayooper]

They are poorly educated wackos. No Constitutional Right is absolute. Depending on the part of the Constitution and how intrusive is the Governmental Action the test is strict scrutiny or reasonableness. Even the 4th Amendment only protects one from an unreasonable search or unreasonable seizure (two separate issues). The USSC to make it easier for the lower courts and ruled that a search or seizure without a Warrant was presumed unreasonable. But the Government could overcome this presumption with the right evidence and the USSC started creating all sorts of exceptions to this Rule.

So no matter what these people think (if that is even a proper description for what they do) the Governmental Action is proper and would most likely be upheld.

Sounds like the Michigan Militia and the Oregon Militia have similar tendencies. I have a lot of family in the Northern Lower Peninsula and have been going there my entire life. While not numerous, there is a strong presence in certain towns of the Michigan Militia. They spew the same words as what you say the Oregon Militia does.

 

[LisaRex]

But there is no evidence that these scum were some type of civil rights activists at all. Totally irrelevant.

I believe it is, but everyone is free to decide whether it's relevant or not.