A Gift of Time [merged]

[jimf41]

Seven Weeks, all developer, no offer yet.

 

[sparty]

I just secured a few weeks for some friends. 2BDRM OF Maui Marriott for $1750 for New Year's is an awesome deal.

I wonder how that works, I have a very early exchange req using Platinum OS at Barony (rents for +$2k) for a Maui 2 bdrm New Year week that is still pending. Also put in the highest demand week at Cypress for same week. Nothing yet.

Maybe I will call Marriott/II tomorrow..

 

[Quimby4]

I got the email last year from Marriott....addressed to the wrong people but sent to my email address...wierd.

Is there a promo code that you can use online to book?
Could someone PM me the code?
Thanks!

 

[puckmanfl]

good morning Sparty...

The " Gift of Time " inventory is "unsold" MVCI inventory that they have thru a quirk of the calendar. Every 4-5 years there is an unsold week 53. MVCI has chosen NOT to deposit these in II, but to make them available to owners at "cost" , near maintenance fees...

II inventory comes from owners such as ourselves that deposit units to trade. Sometimes MVCI will put their inventory in II, sometimes they will give it to II for Getaways and sometimes offer us primo weeks at cost... This explains why these weeks are not available thru II

If you pic up one of these weeks, then subtract the II exchange fee for the same week ( as you nolonger need it) it is a good deal...

Tough to "knock" MVCI on this one!!!

 

[m61376]

Were they actually offering New Year's week? I thought it was usually right before or after the holidays. How does that work with resorts that sold Plat. Plus weeks?

 

[jimf41]

Seven Weeks, all developer, no offer yet.

Just received it in today's email.

 

[sparty]

good morning Sparty...

The " Gift of Time " inventory is "unsold" MVCI inventory that they have thru a quirk of the calendar. Every 4-5 years there is an unsold week 53. MVCI has chosen NOT to deposit these in II, but to make them available to owners at "cost" , near maintenance fees...

II inventory comes from owners such as ourselves that deposit units to trade. Sometimes MVCI will put their inventory in II, sometimes they will give it to II for Getaways and sometimes offer us primo weeks at cost... This explains why these weeks are not available thru II

If you pic up one of these weeks, then subtract the II exchange fee for the same week ( as you nolonger need it) it is a good deal...

Tough to "knock" MVCI on this one!!!

53rd weeks have always been gimicky. It's obvious Marriott's decision to not deposit to II is because they would rather raise revenue by selling them to the home resort owners. It's an easy way for Marriott to raise revenue. The 53rd week is only available to owners at their home resort. The offer of gift of time is to sell/gift a holiday week only at the owners home resort. If you don't own at Maui's Ocean club, you can't buy the 53rd gift of time offer at Maui's ocean club. If it's true owners can give to friends, that is even worse.

Marriott has made a statement by not depositing 53rd weeks with II, allowing long pending exchange requests to get filled, or providing an equivalent means for Marriott owners to be able to purchase 53rd weeks at any Marriott that has a 53rd week available. Revenue comes first, Marriott owner customer satisfaction and appreciation in internal trading comes last.

So do you really want to buy Marriott with a weakened internal trade system?

 

[SueDonJ]

I got the email today, we own 3 weeks.

Sparty, we can reserve at resorts where we don't own. From a link in the email you're directed to a special Gift of Time my-vacationclub.com page, there you'll find a drop-down menu of all available resorts, you click on whichever resort(s) and each available unit type shows with the check-in date and options to either "Exchange" or "Occupy."

I looked at our resorts, rates are about $150-$200 less than m/f. Plus I looked at some check-in dates - seems to be a mix of 12/17, 12/24 and 12/31.

I don't know if I'd call this "gimmicky" - some of these could make for a very nice vacation as well as good traders. It doesn't bother me at all if Marriott makes a little money on these deals - at least they're making the units available to owners and the prices are still much better than even discounted cash rental rates. Plus these are an awful lot of weeks to do as a bulk banking with II when you figure that for each resort it's one week's worth of every available unit. I'd guess that any bulk banking will be made after owners have had an opportunity to take advantage of the offer.

Hmmmm. What to do, what to do ...

 

[rickxylon]

I got the email today, we own 3 weeks.

Sparty, we can reserve at resorts where we don't own. From a link in the email you're directed to a special Gift of Time my-vacationclub.com page, there you'll find a drop-down menu of all available resorts, you click on whichever resort(s) and each available unit type shows with the check-in date and options to either "Exchange" or "Occupy."

I looked at our resorts, rates are about $150-$200 less than m/f. Plus I looked at some check-in dates - seems to be a mix of 12/17, 12/24 and 12/31.

I don't know if I'd call this "gimmicky" - some of these could make for a very nice vacation as well as good traders. It doesn't bother me at all if Marriott makes a little money on these deals - at least they're making the units available to owners and the prices are still much better than even discounted cash rental rates. Plus these are an awful lot of weeks to do as a bulk banking with II when you figure that for each resort it's one week's worth of every available unit. I'd guess that any bulk banking will be made after owners have had an opportunity to take advantage of the offer.

Hmmmm. What to do, what to do ...

It also looks like we get an AC if we do an immediate exchange!

 

[SueDonJ]

I got the email last year from Marriott....addressed to the wrong people but sent to my email address...wierd.

Is there a promo code that you can use online to book?
Could someone PM me the code?
Thanks!

There isn't a code. The email contains a direct link where you sign in to the Gift of Time page at your my-vacationclub.com account. I'd guess that what others have said is true - it's a targeted, staggered offer and not accessible without the email.

{edited to add} I just experimented with adding the linked page to my bookmarks and trying to access it without linking through the email. I put in my password and the page wouldn't load completely even after ten minutes, the little circle thing just kept turning and the list of resorts never came up.

 

[SueDonJ]

It also looks like we get an AC if we do an immediate exchange!

Oh good gravy! I swear, sometimes I think there should be a 12-step program for MVCI owners. I can never resist a Kohl's coupon/clearance sale either. :hysterical:

 

[Retired TSO]

It also looks like we get an AC if we do an immediate exchange!

I was told by II that the 'deposits' to II for these units do NOT get an AC becuase we need a code which is sent by II to owners to include during depositing to qualify for an AC...
I notice that you used the term 'immediate exchange' and not a 'deposit'. Could you please eloborate!! Thanks...

 

[rickxylon]

I was told by II that the 'deposits' to II for these units do NOT get an AC becuase we need a code which is sent by II to owners to include during depositing to qualify for an AC...
I notice that you used the term 'immediate exchange' and not a 'deposit'. Could you please eloborate!! Thanks...

That's one of 2 options that show for me. The other is "occupy". When I select "exchange" it askes if I was solicited by II for a deposit to enter the code. That would get me the AC.

 

[puckmanfl]

good afternoon...

Sparty,

I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on this one!!! I can be as cynical as the next one towards the "mother company", but I don't think they are "in the wrong on this one". I believe it is a fair attempt to provide some "coin" for them while giving owners a fair price at some otherwise unavailable holiday inventory...

 

[SueDonJ]

I can understand Sparty not being thrilled with this - s/he has a request in for one of the exact weeks that's available here but not yet in II. That would be frustrating!

On the plus side, since this is a Week 53 year there may be more exchange availability for the date - from owners who deposit and from this inventory. Sparty, I hope all this excess inventory works in your favor, and that Marriott does do an II bulk banking within a reasonable time. I can't imagine that the Gift of Time prices will mean that owners will scoop them up and immediately deposit them - that's a pretty high price for an exchange. Maybe that means they're more likely to be bulk-banked if not occupied by owners?

 

[Quimby4]

I can understand Sparty not being thrilled with this - s/he has a request in for one of the exact weeks that's available here but not yet in II. That would be frustrating!

On the plus side, since this is a Week 53 year there may be more exchange availability for the date - from owners who deposit and from this inventory. Sparty, I hope all this excess inventory works in your favor, and that Marriott does do an II bulk banking within a reasonable time. I can't imagine that the Gift of Time prices will mean that owners will scoop them up and immediately deposit them - that's a pretty high price for an exchange. Maybe that means they're more likely to be bulk-banked if not occupied by owners?

Hi SueDon,
What sort of prices are you seeing in Hawaii and NCV?
I called MVCI and they said it was a targeted email and they couldn't give out the link, but another MVCI who got the email could make a reservation for you in your name...hmm...

Is anyone a Resale owner that got an email or all developer?

Thanks!

 

[SueDonJ]

Hi SueDon,
What sort of prices are you seeing in Hawaii and NCV?
I called MVCI and they said it was a targeted email and they couldn't give out the link, but another MVCI who got the email could make a reservation for you in your name...hmm...

Is anyone a Resale owner that got an email or all developer?

Thanks!

Ours are developer weeks ...

I'm not all that comfortable with listing individual resorts and prices here in the thread, seeing that it's a targeted offer. But check your pm in a bit.

 

[isisdave]

Hi SueDon,
What sort of prices are you seeing in Hawaii and NCV?
I called MVCI and they said it was a targeted email and they couldn't give out the link, but another MVCI who got the email could make a reservation for you in your name...hmm...

Is anyone a Resale owner that got an email or all developer?

Thanks!

I wonder if you get a better offer at places you own, or if that doesn't matter.

I'm seeing $950 for NCV (12/31) (we own 2 gold developer weeks there). This is about the same as MF+taxes, which are separate.

Waiohai: $1400 island view, $1500 ocean view (we own 1 developer week there) (12/24) and you can pick whether you want Hale 1-3 or 4-8. This is a little below MF.

We don't own any of these:

KoOlina: $1600 iv 2br/$1700 ov 2br/$1850 3br ov (12/17)

Kauai BC: five choices, $1450-1800 (12/31)

Maui: Seven choices, $1450-1750 (12/31)

Aruba's a little less than Hawaii. S.Cal deserts are about $1000. Orlando $850-1050.

 

[Latravel]

We got the offer. We have 4 weeks all developer. The dates were check in Dec 17 and some dates covered new years. Not bad.

 

[Dean]

53rd weeks have always been gimicky. It's obvious Marriott's decision to not deposit to II is because they would rather raise revenue by selling them to the home resort owners. It's an easy way for Marriott to raise revenue. The 53rd week is only available to owners at their home resort. The offer of gift of time is to sell/gift a holiday week only at the owners home resort. If you don't own at Maui's Ocean club, you can't buy the 53rd gift of time offer at Maui's ocean club. If it's true owners can give to friends, that is even worse.

Marriott has made a statement by not depositing 53rd weeks with II, allowing long pending exchange requests to get filled, or providing an equivalent means for Marriott owners to be able to purchase 53rd weeks at any Marriott that has a 53rd week available. Revenue comes first, Marriott owner customer satisfaction and appreciation in internal trading comes last.

So do you really want to buy Marriott with a weakened internal trade system?

I believe early one ONE round Marriott may have restricted the extra week to owners at a given resort but certainly not in some time. These weeks are open to owners at any resort but not necessarily everyone. I also suspect that one has to have bought developer to be included early but am not certain. They own the weeks and can do what they want with them and if they can get revenue, that's what they should do. These are not resort owned weeks and there is no obligation, implied or otherwise, that these weeks be used for the benefit of the owners. At one time they opened it up for anyone to call and at the price of the maint fee for the given resort.

 

[thinze3]

For those buying weeks and depositing, make sure you add BONUSWEEK in the field below the statement that says, "If you have been solicited from II to receive a bonus week please enter the code in the field below."


P.S. - Here's the link.
https://www.my-vacationclub.com/week53res.jsp


OK - I have revised the link. It appears to work just fine.
.

 

[Quimby4]

For those buying weeks and depositing, make sure you add BONUSWEEK in the field below the statement that says, "If you have been solicited from II to receive a bonus week please enter the code in the field below."


P.S. - Here's the link.
https://www.my-vacationclub.com/en-us/owners/res/week53/


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Thank you!!
I'm still not sure if this is a good deal for me...Plus the cost of the trade fee...
Sometimes Getaways are cheaper...hmmm...Do I need another week to trade?
St. Thomas is looking good for Christmas, but at $1650??

 

[SueDonJ]

Quimby, did the page load completely for you through Terry's link? I tried it and the same thing happened as yesterday when I tried to access it as a saved bookmark - the page never loaded completely.

 

[Quimby4]

Quimby, did the page load completely for you through Terry's link? I tried it and the same thing happened as yesterday when I tried to access it as a saved bookmark - the page never loaded completely.

What I did was, log onto my MVCI page, keep the window open. Then click on the Terry's link in a different window. Worked, showed all my MVCI info. on the page.

 

[SueDonJ]

Well lookie there, it worked! I never would have thought of that ...