60% Points Adjustment (Merger Related)

[dayooper]

My concern is that DRI members will be more eager to swap at this valuation than HGVC members, which has the potential to reduce availability st the resorts.

I've seen this happen before at Shell. Shell merged the West club with the Americana club. West was more desirable (imo) and had better value resorts. Now that they've merged availability on things that I used to book easily has been much tighter.

This is my worry as well. As long as we can retain the 9 month advantage, I think we will be fine. If DRI members get to book at 9 months, then it will be tight.

 

[Tamaradarann]

So are these new point levels more in line with what DRI charges for similar units of the same size and time of year? I suspect it was easier to change the HGV point levels given that there is no underlying trusts with units and points declared like DRI has.

That is a good point. I wondered why HGVC didn't change the DRI system to the HGVC system but the underlying trusts with points does make the DRI more complicated.

Both DRI and HGVC exchange thru RCI. In HGVC to reserve a 2 BR in RCI previously cost 4800 points I wonder how many points it costs in DRI to reserve a 2BR in RCI? I believe they are trying to allow exchanges between HGVC and DRI in the merger. It will be interesting to see how many points it takes to reserve desirable DRI resorts like the one in Maui in Kannapali with HGVC points.

 

[ljmiii]

Why not restructure DRI points to line up with "ours?"

That's an easy one to answer - no one want to hear that they have less points!

But, "Congratulations HGVC owners...you now have 60% more points!!!", sounds a lot better... ;-)

 

[dioxide45]

So did HGVC just make it so non owners can't view the points chart for each resort? I know I was looking at them the other day but now, for the life of me, I can't seem to find the chart for each resort.

 

[cindyc]

Some DRI resorts can trade in either RCI or II. I own deeded weeks at Sedona Summit and opted to affiliate with II.

I also own HGVC, so it will be interesting to see how this all plays out for owners of both systems.

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[Hubley]

If something was going to scare me, that would be it ... but to me it is not worth worrying about. Either it will be quite affordable and I will do it ..... or if it's not a good deal my DRI side stays will be made using my separate RCI Points account. My expectations are so low, I do not think there is a way I will come out of this disappointed.

So you would buy into this hvc max program ?

 

[Hubley]

Some DRI resorts can trade in either RCI or II. I own deeded weeks at Sedona Summit and opted to affiliate with II.

I also own HGVC, so it will be interesting to see how this all plays out for owners of both systems.

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Do you think we will have to pay a fee to use diamond. We r hgvc members

 

[dougp26364]

So did HGVC just make it so non owners can't view the points chart for each resort? I know I was looking at them the other day but now, for the life of me, I can't seem to find the chart for each resort.

As an owner I had a difficult time finding the chart. I don’t know if this link will work for you as a non-owner but I’ll post it here on the off chance it will.

https://d1m2ucn09z2f8d.cloudfront.net/static/documents/f861de49-c6cf-43c5-a07c-8577ea911744/HGVSeasonsChart_2022.pdf

 

[Cyberc]

To me it comes down to the easiness of booking my vacations. If it’s just as easy as before meaning owners and members retain their booking windows 12 months and 9 months then I’m okay but if the 9 month window opens up to both HGV and DRI members then the easiness disappears as there are a lot more members to fight with for the inventory.

HGV will undoubtably do whatever makes them the most money.

If HGV and DRI members have to pay a lot extra to book each other’s inventory then I could be afraid that HGV inventory would be gone very fast and DRI not so much.

 

[GT75]

To me it comes down to the easiness of booking my vacations. If it’s just as easy as before meaning owners and members retain their booking windows 12 months and 9 months then I’m okay but if the 9 month window opens up to both HGV and DRI members then the easiness disappears as there are a lot more members to fight with for the inventory.

I agree with your statement. I have purchased my HGVC inventory with the current number of HGVC resorts in mind. Therefore, I really don’t need additional resorts to be added to the club. I certainly don’t want to lose my current bookings (ease of bookings) to add additional resorts that I may not even want to use. If HGVC club opened up to DRI members at 9 month mark, then that would give DRI members a huge advantage because their club booking window is > 10 months (depending upon status level). That wouldn’t be fair to current HGVC members (IMO). What we heard initially that this new max HGVC program would open our inventory at 6 month mark. I am OK with that. It will be interesting because I have an owner’s update tomorrow so I will see what speculation I will get from this very point. That is really all I am interested in (well really, I am only interested in the $250 MF credit).

Right now, I see this as a complete sales tactics. I would certainly want to see the details before I make any moves.

 

[dioxide45]

As an owner I had a difficult time finding the chart. I don’t know if this link will work for you as a non-owner but I’ll post it here on the off chance it will.

https://d1m2ucn09z2f8d.cloudfront.net/static/documents/f861de49-c6cf-43c5-a07c-8577ea911744/HGVSeasonsChart_2022.pdf

That link works, but only shows which weeks are in which season. I did find a link through TUG that works and has the points charts, but I can't find it through the actual HGV website.

 

[dayooper]

That link works, but only shows which weeks are in which season. I did find a link through TUG that works and has the points charts, but I can't find it through the actual HGV website.

It's under the Help dropdown -> Welcome to your 2022 Club Membership. It's a link under the fee schedule. As of February 7th, it still has the old points. Here's a link to the chart for those that might be looking for it

 

[dioxide45]

It's under the Help dropdown -> Welcome to your 2022 Club Membership. It's a link under the fee schedule. As of February 7th, it still has the old points. Here's a link to the chart for those that might be looking for it

I think the "Help dropdown -> Welcome to your 2022 Club Membership" is only available to members logged in?

 

[Bill4728]

Someone asked about points in Embarc and some else said a 2 bd would cost 200 Embarc points

So if now 7000 HGVC becomes 11,200 Then for 200 embarc pts to reserve that room, you need to increase Embarc points by ~ 56 times ! so my 150 embarc points may become 8400 HGVC (new pts)

 

[escanoe]

What we heard initially that this new max HGVC program would open our inventory at 6 month mark. I am OK with that.

What I would like is for

1) Them to do what is outlined above

and

2) Set it up where we can deposit a home week into DEX and make exchanges (or alternatively let us use our points trading in DEX) AND no resort fees for anything under the HGV umbrella.

 

[dayooper]

I think the "Help dropdown -> Welcome to your 2022 Club Membership" is only available to members logged in?

I believe you are correct. I tried going in while logged off and it wasn't there.

 

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[tnsna]

Sorry for the screenshots………… can never remember passwords and the email and tug account are on different devices

LOL....erase screen shots......old news

 

[Talent312]

Yeah, yeah... old news...
What scares me is that soon, we'll be rubbing elbows with hoards of DRI owners.
... I may need to dress a little nicer.,,
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[GT75]

I had a very present owners update yesterday. I did question the salesman about the HGV Max program. Here is what I was told:

• You could purchase any small amount of points now to be grandfathered into this HGV Max program. Later, (I think when the program launches) it would require at least 4000 pts.
• If you purchased nothing, the HGVC and DRI programs would remain the same.
• The HGV program would get you access to around 91 (maybe it was 94) DRI properties. I can not remember if this is consistent with current DRI numbers.
• HGVC members in this HGV Max would get access the DRI properties at 6 month mark. He wasn’t sure about when DRI members would get access to HGVC properties but expected the same.

Obviously, I am waiting to see what happens.

 

[dioxide45]

You could purchase any small amount of points now to be grandfathered into this HGV Max program. Later, (I think when the program launches) it would require at least 4000 pts.

I certainly wouldn't beleive this, for the simple fact of the letter attached in this thread;

HGV Max - Diamond Integration Discussion in Owner Update

Attended my first Hilton update in NY today (1/16/22) as an all resale owner (thanks for the $250 towards MFs for 30 minutes). Salesman was pushing trading in my gold 1 BR at The District for a Platinum studio at The Quin for $26K. Part of the pitch was inclusion of the upcoming HGV Max...

tugbbs.com

 

[dayooper]

I certainly wouldn't beleive this, for the simple fact of the letter attached in this thread;

HGV Max - Diamond Integration Discussion in Owner Update

Attended my first Hilton update in NY today (1/16/22) as an all resale owner (thanks for the $250 towards MFs for 30 minutes). Salesman was pushing trading in my gold 1 BR at The District for a Platinum studio at The Quin for $26K. Part of the pitch was inclusion of the upcoming HGV Max...

tugbbs.com

The underlined part was to indicate that if you bought right now, you wouldn't have to purchase another deed join HGV Max. I'm not convinced that a purchase will be necessary, but it is in realm of possibility. The bigger piece of information, if true, would be the 6 month timeline. Keeping our 9 month booking window is very important to many HGVC members. Certain resorts are hard enough to book at 9 months and having more individuals compete for reservations would not work well for most of us. In fact, having members "save" their points to the 6 month DRI booking window would work great for me. Less competition!