$40 deposit and appointment mandatory?

[davidvel]

Whether a deposit or commission or both, it is a great screening tool. Anyone not flat-out refusing but willing to pay a deposit for the "right" to be held hostage for that money while being sold to is exactly the mark I'd want there if I was selling. Less backbone = higher sales potential.

Those that refuse are much less likely to buy. If they still need bodies, they'll chase those later via phone call.

 

[GT75]

Wow, there is NO (it seems like some choice expletives need to be added here) WAY that I would give a deposit in order to go to an OU. You aren’t even told what your “free” gift would be. I won’t go to an OU for under $250. I would figure out a way to get your keys w/o this hassle/stress. What about some creative lies such as my spouse is not traveling with me on this trip (most OU require both spouses to attend). HVC/DRI is now an HGV product and this doesn’t meet HGV standards, IMO.

 

[WorldT]

Wow, there is NO (it seems like some choice expletives need to be added here) WAY that I would give a deposit in order to go to an OU. You aren’t even told what your “free” gift would be. I won’t go to an OU for under $250. I would figure out a way to get your keys w/o this hassle/stress. What about some creative lies such as my spouse is not traveling with me on this trip (most OU require both spouses to attend). HVC/DRI is now an HGV product and this doesn’t meet HGV standards, IMO.

No need for lies. If you don't want to attend, just say no. There will be an attempt to persuade you. You can shut that down by being polite but firm. No need for a back and forth. Just tell the person calmly the answer is no, is going to remain a no, and if they don't give you your keys, you will raise a stink at the check in counter. (Add the words : "listen closely", before you start).
If you chose to go but don't want to deposit any money, just say so. Also, you can ask what gift you will get and you can absolutely negotiate what it will take to get you to attend. If you don't like what they are offering, then your answer should be no.

 

[davidvel]

No need for lies. If you don't want to attend, just say no. There will be an attempt to persuade you. You can shut that down by being polite but firm. No need for a back and forth. Just tell the person calmly the answer is no, is going to remain a no, and if they don't give you your keys, you will raise a stink at the check in counter. (Add the words : "listen closely", before you start).
If you chose to go but don't want to deposit any money, just say so. Also, you can ask what gift you will get and you can absolutely negotiate what it will take to get you to attend. If you don't like what they are offering, then your answer should be no.

No reason not to lie. It ends the process immediately without all the follow up you note.

 

[dioxide45]

No need for lies. If you don't want to attend, just say no. There will be an attempt to persuade you. You can shut that down by being polite but firm. No need for a back and forth. Just tell the person calmly the answer is no, is going to remain a no, and if they don't give you your keys, you will raise a stink at the check in counter. (Add the words : "listen closely", before you start).
If you chose to go but don't want to deposit any money, just say so. Also, you can ask what gift you will get and you can absolutely negotiate what it will take to get you to attend. If you don't like what they are offering, then your answer should be no.

No is by far the easiest and most efficient answer. Avoid excuses like being too busy or wanting to spend time on vacation. They have been trained to always have a response to people that can't say no. If you just say no they don't really have anything else to say. Of course, you may have to say no a few times.

 

[davidvel]

No is by far the easiest and most efficient answer. Avoid excuses like being too busy or wanting to spend time on vacation. They have been trained to always have a response to people that can't say no. If you just say no they don't really have anything else to say. Of course, you may have to say no a few times.

They have no response to your spouse is not with you. It ends immediately. If you gave names at check in say it is your sister. Easiest way, no hassle only say it one time, on your way.

 

[dioxide45]

They have no response to your spouse is not with you. It ends immediately. If you gave names at check in say it is your sister. Easiest way, no hassle only say it one time, on your way.

Some people just have a moral issue with lying. Perhaps they shouldn't and you don't, but some do. You're starting to be what you accuse Scoop of being, your way is the only way.

 

[davidvel]

Some people just have a moral issue with lying. Perhaps they shouldn't and you don't, but some do. You're starting to be what you accuse Scoop of being, your way is the only way.

Not at all. I never told anyone they should do it this way, or that it is the only way to do it, or they are an idiot, etc., etc. if they don't do it my way as Scoop often does. That is the difference. I am just describing factually how it works.

Personally I have no problem with a little immaterial lie to get a person to stop harassing me and/or withholding parking passes and/or owner card and/or keys to my room, while they lie to me and say it is just an "owners update," when it is actually a sales meeting where the salesperson will continually lie. To me this is not even a remotely ethical question, others may feel differently.