3 Timeshares for Free! I Need Help! Where do I start?

[m61376]

Are you sure of this facts?? Even reservation made with legacy points??

For example. Ritz Carlton Abaco rents for 1K/night or 7K/weeks in the summer. Points costs are minimal.

I am certain that timeshare reservations made with points can be rented (according to customer advocacy, as long as you are not engaging in a commercial enterprise; I'm guessing that they might clamp down on someone doing it large scale as a business venture).

I do not know about renting Ritz reservations, since I never specifically inquired about that.

 

[dioxide45]

I don't understand what you mean by "the deadline for conversion was long ago."

Legacy weeks can still enroll in the DC points program and still at the initial introductory rate. While these rights don't transfer to a resale buyer, Marriott does transfer rights to heirs.

I think the PP meant the deadline to convert 2012 weeks to points was long ago (Sept 30th to be exact).

 

[m61376]

I think the PP meant the deadline to convert 2012 weeks to points was long ago (Sept 30th to be exact).

Oh- I was talking more in generalizations for future usage.

For 2012 use the OP would have to check and see if the weeks could be converted to points. Do the deadlines in place apply to the first year of membership? I'm not sure about that.

 

[seatrout]

Did not know that we can still enroll to DC program is brought directly from marriott

 

[m61376]

Did not know that we can still enroll to DC program is brought directly from marriott

Both direct purchasers and purchasers of resale weeks before 6/20/10 can still enroll their week(s). The enrollment fees have remained unchanged: 595/695 for single/multiple developer weeks and 1495/1995 for resale weeks. There is still an 800 point enrollment bonus (one time).

Marriott has recently opened enrollment to resale weeks bought through their resale program, but not to any externally purchased resale weeks, and the option to enroll even Marriott purchased resale weeks is limited to those buying a substantial points package (?2500 points) at the same time.

 

[rpw]

my 2 pennies

Forget all the trading and converting to points, that all costs additional money.

You don't need to enroll in Interval International, or the DC points program. One of the first rules of timesharing is "own where you want to go". You say you have memories of Cypress Harbor, so can your kids.

IF you are willing to drive from OH to Orlando (that's a 15hour drive) then you can control that cost to some extent. You MIGHT get lucky and find cheap flights, but you have to fly yourself, your wife, and your kids and rent a car when you get there. Those are also added expenses.

So if you ignore all the extraneous trading and converting to points it really is as simple as "are you willing to spend one week a year in Orlando for approx $160 a night for a 2 bdrm resort".

Would you really commit to taking your wife and kids EVERY year to Orlando?

Because it's a 2bdrm with a washer/dryer and full kitchen, you can carry less clothes in your car and likely eat in for many of your meals (but that still requires some grocery shopping).

Me? I'd probably do it. But I'd only take the one that I had the highest probability of being able to use for years to come. Also you'll have to work around a school schedule so take that into account.

I know it sounds risky, but one of the things that OWNING a timeshare does is FORCE you to take a vacation with your family every year. It's too easy to say "we can't afford to go on vacation this year, maybe next" but the kids are only around for a number of years and then they are gone.

Personally, if you were willing to drive, I'd take one of those weeks that will work well with the kids school schedule. Skip all the trading and enrolling for points and such, it's more money and you can always enroll in Interval International in the future when money is less tight and trading seems more appealing.

That said think long and hard about this, you are making basically a lifelong commitment.

Good Luck

 

[dmharris]

I know it sounds risky, but one of the things that OWNING a timeshare does is FORCE you to take a vacation with your family every year. It's too easy to say "we can't afford to go on vacation this year, maybe next" but the kids are only around for a number of years and then they are gone.

This is precisely WHY we bought a time share. We are self-employed = no paid vacation time, and we denied ourselves and our children vacations because of money. I wish we'd bought one sooner so we had more memories with our kids. But thankfully we did buy one and in five years we've taken 12 weeks of vacation with our lock-off and ACs.

 

[rickandcindy23]

The amazing thing to me: If you choose to give these to Marriott, they will sell each one of them to some buyer for $15-20K easily enough. Consider that in your decision.

But could you sell them for even $1,000? Not likely. Marriott will include Destination Club points with the sale, and you cannot do that. You do have Marriott Points, which are more valuable because they cannot be transferred in the sale for $1,000.

The DC points are something you may be able to add with a salesperson, since you are an heir.

I would be as confused as you are with this decision. But my instinct tells me not to buy Orlando. These are free and at our favorite resort.

I am no help.

 

[Swice]

cheap car

And renting a car can cost you $100 a day down there.

$100 a day for a rental car??? NO way.

I always bid 17 or 18 dollars a day on Priceline and get it (usually full size). Going in two weeks and didn't even have to "bid" and got $8 a day for full size using regular priceline listings.

 

[SueDonJ]

The amazing thing to me: If you choose to give these to Marriott, they will sell each one of them to some buyer for $15-20K easily enough. Consider that in your decision.

But could you sell them for even $1,000? Not likely. Marriott will include Destination Club points with the sale, and you cannot do that. You do have Marriott Points, which are more valuable because they cannot be transferred in the sale for $1,000. ...

Marriott-direct Weeks with full benefits aren't available for purchase anymore. These Cypress Harbour Weeks are available through Marriott's Resale Operations, though, as that office appears to be facilitating sales by existing owners. A Special season Week is priced there at $8,100 and a Sport season Week is priced at $5,500. Weeks purchased through that channel do include the Marriott Rewards exchange benefit but are not eligible for enrollment in the DC (unless the buyer also purchases a DC Points package at the same time.)

If these Weeks are sold on the external market by the OP's family, you're correct that they probably won't get the prices that the Resales office is commanding but neither the MR exchange benefit nor the DC enrollment option will transfer with an external resale to the new owner.

The DC points are something you may be able to add with a salesperson, since you are an heir. ...

Any Weeks inherited by heirs or transferred to immediate family members usually have included all of the benefits that the current owner enjoys including the MR exchange benefit. It appears that the option to enroll eligible Weeks into the DC would also be included but we haven't seen any reports on TUG to confirm it. (The DC is simply too new for all situations to have been reported yet.) Some of the DC docs language is very confusing so I wouldn't say there's any guarantee of this - it appears it should happen but we just don't know yet.

I would be as confused as you are with this decision. But my instinct tells me not to buy Orlando. These are free and at our favorite resort.

I am no help.

I can't imagine being in the OP's position of having to quickly absorb so much information in order to make a decision about something that could potentially enhance his family's vacation lifestyle but also is an ongoing ever-increasing financial commitment. On the one hand the TUG mantra is to take your time and don't commit until you've learned all that's necessary to make the most of your purchase, but on the other hand this is a unique situation. The OP stands to gain a nice Marriott timeshare with full usage value for relatively little if any cost (the transfer fees?) above the MF. Most of us who know how to make full usage of Marriott timeshares see that this could be an excellent opportunity, but of course we understand more than the OP does.

I'm sorry, OP, that you and your family are struggling over this when you have so much more important things to think about right now. It's understandable that you all want to get your mom's things in order and off-loading the timeshares and their financial obligations would be a big help. But I still hope that your siblings aren't pushing you to make a quick decision (maybe they want an answer before the 2012 Maintenance Fees are due in the next couple weeks?) If you keep thinking out loud here we'll help you flesh out the details.

I really like your idea of paying the MF for the Week you would be most interested in, and then using it with your family to see how you all feel about keeping it. That way you and your siblings could begin the process to off-load the other two, you get enough time to learn more about how all of benefits of the third might work for you as well as how it will fit into your vacation budget, but you're leaving open the option to off-load it later if you don't want it after all. That's a good plan.

 

[m61376]

Any Weeks inherited by heirs or transferred to immediate family members usually have included all of the benefits that the current owner enjoys including the MR exchange benefit. It appears that the option to enroll eligible Weeks into the DC would also be included but we haven't seen any reports on TUG to confirm it. (The DC is simply too new for all situations to have been reported yet.) Some of the DC docs language is very confusing so I wouldn't say there's any guarantee of this - it appears it should happen but we just don't know yet.

I thought it was posted that heirs could use inherited legacy weeks in the DC program. However, of course the OP should check this out directly with Marriott beforehand, and should be advised that they may have to go up the supervisory food chain to get this accomplished.

The other question that occurred to me, which I think has been questioned before, is whether the original owner has to have joined the DC first or if the enrollment could be subsequent to the transfer of property. That is also an important distinction to clarify.

If I was in the OP's shoes I would definitely check on this, because it might impact his decision. If he was looking at it solely for potential current use as a weeks property I would say that probably the special week might be a good thing to take. If he is willing to invest some time and energy into learning the system, and if the weeks can be enrolled in the DC program, than the accumulated points from all 3 weeks would enable him to make high rental reservations to cover the MF's (or most of it) from points from 2 of the weeks and still use the third week for personal use, while leaving the door open for different personal use for special occasions and/or as his finances improve.

The fact that ownership forces use in a sense is something that has meant a lot to many of us. It is easy either not to bother or not to spend the money, and one year goes into the next. Even though you certainly can spend quality time at home, I think the vast majority of us will say that we tend to spend more quality time with our families when we are on vacation- away from work, the stresses of everyday life, even the Internet; those moments create priceless memories! As someone else said, the kids tend to grow up fast; timesharing instills a love of family vacations, and I tend to see more grown up "kids" vacationing with parents and even grandparents, and later with their own children. And the nice thing is the kids are in a vacation environment where they see a lot of other people doing the same thing. That's why- and not to sound like a salesperson- for many of us the "value" is not simply the dollar and cents issue; moreso, it is the time we spend with our loved ones!

 

[SueDonJ]

I thought it was posted that heirs could use inherited legacy weeks in the DC program. However, of course the OP should check this out directly with Marriott beforehand, and should be advised that they may have to go up the supervisory food chain to get this accomplished.

The other question that occurred to me, which I think has been questioned before, is whether the original owner has to have joined the DC first or if the enrollment could be subsequent to the transfer of property. That is also an important distinction to clarify.

If I was in the OP's shoes I would definitely check on this, because it might impact his decision. If he was looking at it solely for potential current use as a weeks property I would say that probably the special week might be a good thing to take. ...

That's exactly why I say that there is no guarantee about DC enrollment of these Weeks if they're inherited/transferred. A few folks have asked questions and gotten contradictory answers, but there haven't been any TUG reports from somebody who has actually experienced the situation so there is no way for us to know what Marriott will or won't allow.

I would assume that a DC-enrollment would remain with a Week that is inherited/transferred among immediate family members (with the new owner perhaps required to pay another enrollment fee?) I would also assume that as long as the enrollment window is open and a Week satisfies all other enrollment terms, then a Week which was un-enrolled prior to a family-inheritance/transfer could be enrolled by the new owner if the enrollment fee is paid.

But we all know what can happen when we make assumptions ... No doubt you're correct that if the OP wants the DC enrollment option, he should get definitive answers to these questions - preferably in writing - from an authorized Marriott rep before he accepts a transfer.

If he is willing to invest some time and energy into learning the system, and if the weeks can be enrolled in the DC program, than the accumulated points from all 3 weeks would enable him to make high rental reservations to cover the MF's (or most of it) from points from 2 of the weeks and still use the third week for personal use, while leaving the door open for different personal use for special occasions and/or as his finances improve. ...

As much knowledge as we savvy TUG owners have, no doubt it's easier for us to imagine all the ways we could use/rent/exchange three Weeks that could be ours for only the MF costs. But I'm in the camp with the others who say that in this situation the OP is simply too green to take on the financial commitment of all three. If he only takes one and learns through experience that he probably could have taken all three, at least he hasn't lost any money and he'll still be able to dabble in the external resale market with its bargain pricing. If he takes all three and finds down the road that he's in over his head financially and usage-related, he may have problems off-loading what he doesn't want then. Taking on one week and learning as you go is doable; diving into timeshare ownership with three weeks right off the bat could be a nightmare.

The fact that ownership forces use in a sense is something that has meant a lot to many of us. It is easy either not to bother or not to spend the money, and one year goes into the next. Even though you certainly can spend quality time at home, I think the vast majority of us will say that we tend to spend more quality time with our families when we are on vacation- away from work, the stresses of everyday life, even the Internet; those moments create priceless memories! As someone else said, the kids tend to grow up fast; timesharing instills a love of family vacations, and I tend to see more grown up "kids" vacationing with parents and even grandparents, and later with their own children. And the nice thing is the kids are in a vacation environment where they see a lot of other people doing the same thing. That's why- and not to sound like a salesperson- for many of us the "value" is not simply the dollar and cents issue; moreso, it is the time we spend with our loved ones!

I completely agree with this (and love that you, m, stress it so often.) Our timeshares have forced us to take vacations and now that our children are grown twenty-somethings, we love that they still enjoy traveling with us when they're able. We're looking forward to eventually, hopefully!, traveling with grandchildren as well. But minus the timeshares, I am just not sure that we would have developed a travel pattern at all. We had years of not being able to afford vacations. But we also had later years of being able to rent vacation accommodations and we simply didn't make the effort. Owning forces us to make the effort! I'm not even sure now that if we didn't own, we'd still travel the way we do. I'd hope so, but I just don't know.

 

[jimf41]

I asked MVCI about this will/inheritance thing a few months ago. here is the reply

Dear James Freeman:

Thank you for contacting Marriott Vacation Club.

We received your inquiry regarding leaving your Marriott Vacation Club weeks to your children in your will.

When your weeks are gifted or willed to a family member, defined as spouse, children, grandchildren, children of spouse or grandchildren of spouse, they do retain the ability to be enrolled in the Marriott Vacation Club Destinations program. The enrollment fee is waived, but it is necessary to complete a new enrollment agreement. You existing Vacation Club Points will remain in your account and future use years will be eligible to have usage assigned by the new Owner.

Regarding your additional questions, inheritance is treated the same as any deeded real estate. Changes would be done through the re-writing of each deed owned. For specific legal implications of how to rewrite your deed, you may inquire with your estate planner.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us via the e-mail address listed below or via our website at www.My-VacationClub.com.

Best regards,

Jeremy M.

 

[winger]

I will offer our perspectives from our angle as relatively young parents with two young children (<10 yo) and hopefully Novice can relate to some of our experiences and views and find some use in his decision(s).

First, just a little background. We purchased our first TS unit about two years before we got married, before kids came along, before my career really started moving too fast. Fast forward about a little over 15 years to today, we now own several TS units (both through resale and direct/developer purchases). We have mainly exchanged our units over the years (through Interval International, Diamond Resort's internal system, personal exchanges with others, and finally we dibbled a little in Marriott's new DC program) having very rarely stayed at our home resort(s). We purchased our original unit to exchange to places we saw in the sales lady's copy of the Interval International book (we are not really Las Vegas folk, though that is where our home base is) and we have NOT wavered for one instant from that original 'reason' for purchasing the unit.

Now, with kids in tow, careers in full swing with middle-age slowly approaching (reality is starting to hit when a recent visit to the optometrist included a conversation about bifocals ), I can truly say that through the many ups and downs both DW and I have experienced in our lives so far, having our TS's has really been one blessing in the sense we have been FORCED to take regular vacations every year. We have vacationed in places we very likely would have never been if it were not for having "pre-paid" trips, we have many priceless pictures, videos and memories of precious family time to cherish for a lifetime and beyond, we have enjoyed the spacious accommodations at very decent prices, we have been fortunate to have friends and family join us (they would likely not have IF we were in hotels due to the cost), and with my son's many food allergies, having a guaranteed kitchen (even partial one such as at Marriott's Maui Ocean Club, original tower) it has been a godsend to have a choice to cook him meals, even for taking it to restaurants when the rest of us go out to eat.

We are just about to wrap up bookings for our 3rd major trip in 2012 (November in Kauai) and just because we have available space, this afternoon we called DW's god parents, whom we have not seen in about 16 years, and offered to have them join us for a week if they can find time off from their busy retirement. This idea would NOT have even come up if we were renting a hotel.

Yes, the MF's have risen greatly, especially over the past five years to almost an unbearable level especially given the economy has had an effect on us, but the overall value (not just measured in $dollars) our TS ownership offers makes it very worthwhile to own versus the alternative. Having experienced one true benefit of owning timeshares, which is when one has young children in tow, we do feel very fortunate.

We look forward to many more years of enjoyment - one day hopefully to bring grandchildren on trips with us (again, we cannot even imagine such a thing IF we depended on hotels or renting condos from others) !

All this enjoyment comes as a 'cost', if you can even call it that - which is it takes time and effort to learn how to best utilize the TS 'vehicle'. Since you found TUG, as you can already tell, there are many TUGers here who are more than willing to help.

 

[m61376]

As much knowledge as we savvy TUG owners have, no doubt it's easier for us to imagine all the ways we could use/rent/exchange three Weeks that could be ours for only the MF costs. But I'm in the camp with the others who say that in this situation the OP is simply too green to take on the financial commitment of all three. If he only takes one and learns through experience that he probably could have taken all three, at least he hasn't lost any money and he'll still be able to dabble in the external resale market with its bargain pricing. If he takes all three and finds down the road that he's in over his head financially and usage-related, he may have problems off-loading what he doesn't want then. Taking on one week and learning as you go is doable; diving into timeshare ownership with three weeks right off the bat could be a nightmare.

In general, I tend to take a very conservative approach to things, and I certainly am not trying to encourage anyone to be reckless. The reason why I differ in my opinion here is that given that these are inherited weeks and that Jim has confirmed what I was sure I had heard/read (although the OP should certainly get his own confirmation in writing) about the eligibility to enroll these weeks, this a unique opportunity to get not only weeks but a substantial amount of DC points for free. These are not simply weeks that can be replaced for a few thousand down the road; if only the week usage was conveyed I would be in total agreement.

While it would take a bit of an education, I think it is fairly safe to say that the OP could recoup the MF's on the extra weeks at minimum fairly easily, either by renting the points or reserving a higher demand destination with the points. There is a good chance he could recoup close to if not all the MF's for all 3 units using the DC points from 2 of the units if he planned properly. The extra work MAY be worth it if he feels that his finances may change over the next several years, allowing him perhaps to enjoy the extra vacation weeks at a later time.

Certainly, the safe thing would be for him to simply walk away or only to take one. BUT if he feels he wants to take the time and energy to learn the system and feels his family's lifestyle will be enhanced by so doing, I still think because of the uniqueness of the situation we should at least present him with other alternatives. It is unlikely in the future that he would be financially able to purchase the equivalent of this opportunity, since we're talking the equivalent of over 60 grand in DC points.

It's a tough decision, and I hope even our disagreements help the OP get a clearer picture of his options. By now he likely has many more questions, and certainly should feel free to make further inquiries.

 

[dioxide45]

The only issue that I see is that these weeks are not being inherited. The deeds are still in the name of the mother who is still alive. Does passing the weeks to your children while alive carry the same rights as inheriting weeks upon death? I think Jim's response indicates, yes, but just something to verify.

 

[windje2000]

The only issue that I see is that these weeks are not being inherited. The deeds are still in the name of the mother who is still alive. Does passing the weeks to your children while alive carry the same rights as inheriting weeks upon death? I think Jim's response indicates, yes, but just something to verify.

I can tell you from personal experience that the answer is yes. Just make the transfer contract absolutely explicit as to relationship of the donor and donee.

The deed can reference a nominal pro-forma amount of consideration (ten dollars and other good and valuable consideration the receipt of which is hereby acknowledged) for contract purposes which will not affect the inter vivos gift status.

When Marriott records the transfer of ownership, verify immediately with owner services that the weeks retain their developer status, before the paperwork falls into a black hole somewhere.

 

[SueDonJ]

I asked MVCI about this will/inheritance thing a few months ago. here is the reply

Dear James Freeman:

Thank you for contacting Marriott Vacation Club.

We received your inquiry regarding leaving your Marriott Vacation Club weeks to your children in your will.

When your weeks are gifted or willed to a family member, defined as spouse, children, grandchildren, children of spouse or grandchildren of spouse, they do retain the ability to be enrolled in the Marriott Vacation Club Destinations program. The enrollment fee is waived, but it is necessary to complete a new enrollment agreement. You existing Vacation Club Points will remain in your account and future use years will be eligible to have usage assigned by the new Owner.

Regarding your additional questions, inheritance is treated the same as any deeded real estate. Changes would be done through the re-writing of each deed owned. For specific legal implications of how to rewrite your deed, you may inquire with your estate planner.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us via the e-mail address listed below or via our website at www.My-VacationClub.com.

Best regards,

Jeremy M.

The only issue that I see is that these weeks are not being inherited. The deeds are still in the name of the mother who is still alive. Does passing the weeks to your children while alive carry the same rights as inheriting weeks upon death? I think Jim's response indicates, yes, but just something to verify.

I can tell you from personal experience that the answer is yes. Just make the transfer contract absolutely explicit as to relationship of the donor and donee.

The deed can reference a nominal pro-forma amount of consideration (ten dollars and other good and valuable consideration the receipt of which is hereby acknowledged) for contract purposes which will not affect the inter vivos gift status.

When Marriott records the transfer of ownership, verify immediately with owner services that the weeks retain their developer status, before the paperwork falls into a black hole somewhere.

Jim and windje, thanks for your posts. Those are exactly the answers I would expect from Marriott and it's encouraging to know that the OP should be able to get them in writing before he proceeds with any transfers.

Dioxide's point is a good one, too, and it emphasizes what we and the OP still don't know: if his mom's weeks are not enrolled in the DC prior to any inheritance/transfer of any of them, will he as the new owner be able to enroll them after a transfer if that usage is important to him? Assuming the enrollment window would still open, they should be eligible because all usage options are supposed to run with such transactions ... I would guess yes, but then again Marriott-direct purchases from the Marriott Resales office are not eligible to be enrolled. I suppose the OP can ask for written confirmation prior to a transfer, or maybe whichever Week(s) he wants to keep can be enrolled prior to the transfer (whether it's done by his mom or by the sibling(s) who are authorized to act for her.) He could work it out with them that he'll pay the enrollment fee (just as he could work out paying the 2012 MF as he suggested.)

Interesting topic. I'm glad the OP found TUG and opened the discussion.

 

[SueDonJ]

... It's a tough decision, and I hope even our disagreements help the OP get a clearer picture of his options. By now he likely has many more questions, and certainly should feel free to make further inquiries.

I hope so, too, m, that our differing opinions can help the OP reach a decision. There's no absolute right or wrong here; only he can figure out what sounds right or wrong for him.

 

[windje2000]

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if his mom's weeks are not enrolled in the DC prior to any inheritance/transfer of any of them, will he as the new owner be able to enroll them after a transfer if that usage is important to him?

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Sue, a 'developer' week doesn't change its stripes in any way when transferred between family members in conformance with the rules in the Marriott terms and conditions. It still can be exchanged for MRP, etc.

I've never seen any mention of a deadline associated with enrolling developer weeks in DC.

EDITED TO ADD: JimF's post states that the DC enrollment fee will be waived in the 'family transfer' of an enrolled week. That's news to me.

 

[SueDonJ]

Sue, a 'developer' week doesn't change its stripes in any way when transferred between family members in conformance with the rules in the Marriott terms and conditions. It still can be exchanged for MRP, etc. ...

That's why I'd guess "yes," that if the OP takes a transfer of an un-enrolled Week from his mom then he should be able to enroll it himself as a new owner. Should be able! I wouldn't just assume it, though - I'd want written confirmation from an authorized Marriott rep. If such a thing couldn't be obtained, then I'd look into having mom (or the sibling(s) authorized to act for her) enroll it prior to the family transfer.

EDITED TO ADD: JimF's post states that the DC enrollment fee will be waived in the 'family transfer' of an enrolled week. That's news to me. ...

News to me, too, and good news! But it's important to note that the specific details of Jim's question were in regard to a transfer of a Week which has already been enrolled. It's great that Marriott wouldn't require the transferee of a previously-enrolled Week to pay another enrollment fee. (Or initiation fee?) But the OP's situation is different - we're talking now about a family transfer of a Week which hasn't been enrolled, so if Marriott allows the new owner following a transfer to enroll it, wouldn't they have to also collect the enrollment fee?

I've never seen any mention of a deadline associated with enrolling developer weeks in DC.

No, but they've placed an end date on enrollment terms/costs several times now which they keep extending, and we don't know if there will come a time when DC-enrollment is no longer allowed. I'd guess that time is a long time coming, if ever, but anybody's guess is as good as mine.

 

[windje2000]

But the OP's situation is different - we're talking now about a family transfer of a Week which hasn't been enrolled, so if Marriott allows the new owner following a transfer to enroll it, wouldn't they have to also collect the enrollment fee?


No, but they've placed an end date on enrollment terms/costs several times now which they keep extending, and we don't know if there will come a time when DC-enrollment is no longer allowed. I'd guess that time is a long time coming, if ever, but anybody's guess is as good as mine.

No question they would want their enrollment fee in the OP circumstances.

Regarding future enrollment, I've seen the 'soft' deadlines regarding enrolling pre-6/20 resale weeks, and the possibility of not receiving 800 pluspoints after a certain date.

But I've never seen any mention of a deadline regarding enrolling a developer week.

No more DC enrollment? Unlikely. They want as many skimmees in their pool as they can get.