[2023] New Marriott branded Charleston Resort Announced

[Superchief]

I really would like to see a traditional MVC resort in St. Pete's or Clearwater Beach or along the coast near by. Even Tarpon Springs would be nice and I would eat great Greek food every day.

 

[jwalk03]

I really would like to see a traditional MVC resort in St. Pete's or Clearwater Beach or along the coast near by. Even Tarpon Springs would be nice and I would eat great Greek food every day.

Agreed. Would also love to see a beachfront resort in the panhandle as well.

 

[kozykritter]

I'm pulling for more mountain properties rather than urban. There is a void in New England, the Northern Rockies, Pacific Northwest and Canadian Rockies. I bought a resale Worldmark to get to some of those places but it'd be nice to have some in the Abound system.

 

[altiste1]

I'm pulling for more mountain properties rather than urban. There is a void in New England, the Northern Rockies, Pacific Northwest and Canadian Rockies. I bought a resale Worldmark to get to some of those places but it'd be nice to have some in the Abound system.

Definitely agree with this. We live in New England and while we prefer Marriott resorts, we’re selling one if our weeks to make room in the portfolio for a Wyndham contract, simple because there are no Marriott ski resort-adjacent properties within driving distance.

*pssst - Marriott! If you’re listening: NEW ENGLAND!*

 

[jme]

I'm pulling for more mountain properties rather than urban. There is a void in New England, the Northern Rockies, Pacific Northwest and Canadian Rockies. I bought a resale Worldmark to get to some of those places but it'd be nice to have some in the Abound system.

Absolutely agree that there is a real VOID in mountain resort experiences for timeshares with Marriott/Abound.
(That is, something MORE than strictly ski resorts out west, which we have done. But our children are now grown, and we don't want to ski ourselves anymore.)
We have visited New England mountain destinations in general, but they were just hotels such as Vermont's Woodstock Inn & NH's Omni Mt Washington Resort Hotel.

Why pursue this? Because we do consider ourselves potential customers and patrons of such an endeavor. We need "mountain housing", lol.

Let's not forget, too, that the Southern Appalachian ranges are as beautiful as anyplace, and would be more easily accessible by northerners and southerners,
so I would equally recommend those locations.

From North Georgia > NC > TN > VA & W VA, the Appalachian mountains are more breathtaking than people give them credit for.
We adore our beach destination timeshares, but as soon as June is over and in the books, our desire is to head for the hills.
It's a shame because Fall & Winter are what we live for, but for destinations we have to run through our list of hotel resorts
such as Asheville NC's Grove Park Inn, VA's The Homestead, W VA's The Greenbrier, and others.
WHY has the timeshare industry forgotten about this venue? People yearn for the mountains, yet the opportunities remain untapped.

"Subranges of the Appalachian Mountains"

• Berkshires.
• Black Mountains (North Carolina)
• Blue Ridge Mountains.
• Brushy Mountains (North Carolina)

 

[GetawaysRus]

I really would like to see a traditional MVC resort in St. Pete's or Clearwater Beach or along the coast near by. Even Tarpon Springs would be nice and I would eat great Greek food every day.

I'd like to see a traditional MVC resort period.

When was the last time Marriott built a traditional timeshare resort in the US? In the last few years it has been Pulse properties. If I had wanted to stay in hotel rooms I would not have bought a timeshare back in 2004.

I'll follow the news about Charleston as it develops. If it's a traditional resort, that's great. If it's another Pulse, I'll be disappointed.

 

[Dean]

I'd like to see a traditional MVC resort period.

When was the last time Marriott built a traditional timeshare resort in the US? In the last few years it has been Pulse properties. If I had wanted to stay in hotel rooms I would not have bought a timeshare back in 2004.

I'll follow the news about Charleston as it develops. If it's a traditional resort, that's great. If it's another Pulse, I'll be disappointed.

I'd agree though I'll point out that it'll be virtually impossible to put a full resort in the middle of the action for urban areas. The timeshares in Charleston, San Antonio, NO and Savannah that I know are in between. They have small but full kitchens for 1BR and above, have smaller units and generally don't have a pool or much else for amenities including parking. The ones in Charleston, NO and San Antonio that are nicer, newer and have more amenities are further out though not dramatically so. NO does have more options than the other 3 though.

 

[ljmiii]

I'd like to see a traditional MVC resort period.

When was the last time Marriott built a traditional timeshare resort in the US? In the last few years it has been Pulse properties. If I had wanted to stay in hotel rooms I would not have bought a timeshare back in 2004.

It depends on how you count. Built a traditional timeshare resort from the ground up as in 'on vacant land that didn't have a MVC or Marriott there before'...seemingly forever. I have to rely on those with longer memories than mine.

But they have done a number of hotel conversions or additional towers to existing locations that included villas with washer/dryers and 'full' kitchens.

 

[rthib]

Marriott doesn’t build resorts anymore, they got out of the real estate business. So unless someone brings them a resort or they acquire someone, Pulse is what you will see for a while.
They are an easy way to get more points for the trust.

 

[dioxide45]

I'd like to see a traditional MVC resort period.

When was the last time Marriott built a traditional timeshare resort in the US? In the last few years it has been Pulse properties. If I had wanted to stay in hotel rooms I would not have bought a timeshare back in 2004.

I'll follow the news about Charleston as it develops. If it's a traditional resort, that's great. If it's another Pulse, I'll be disappointed.

I think the last resort was Costa Rica. Though it is collocated with a hotel but is in a building of its own. Before that, I think it was Lakeshore Reserve, at least in the domestic USA. Charleston will most undoubtedly be given the Pulse brand. It may have better units as it seems like it may be a ground up, but they may be bound by some existing constraints and approvals. VAC loves the city center properties because they can allocate a lot of points to tiny rooms and sell the dream of reserving traditional timeshare resorts with all those new points. This will further tighten inventory at traditional resort properties. I suspect land acquisition and building costs will prohibit most new resort properties moving forward.

 

[Fasttr]

I received a MVC poll a few weeks back that asked a lot of question surrounding Pulse....what amenities would be preferred in a Pulse style unit (full fridge, washer/drier, room size, etc), even asked opinion on what Pulse type properties should be called (Pulse, City Escapes, City Destinations, etc.) so seems as if perhaps they are rethinking the current Pulse branding and unit types/amenities offerings moving forward.

 

[daviator]

I think the last resort was Costa Rica. Though it is collocated with a hotel but is in a building of its own. Before that, I think it was Lakeshore Reserve, at least in the domestic USA. Charleston will most undoubtedly be given the Pulse brand. It may have better units as it seems like it may be a ground up, but they may be bound by some existing constraints and approvals. VAC loves the city center properties because they can allocate a lot of points to tiny rooms and sell the dream of reserving traditional timeshare resorts with all those new points. This will further tighten inventory at traditional resort properties. I suspect land acquisition and building costs will prohibit most new resort properties moving forward.

100% agree. And this is a strong argument for holding weeks-based ownerships at resorts you like to travel to.

 

[dioxide45]

I did some digging and found the recorded deeds for the Charleston location. It looks like MVW paid about $16.5 million for what is two parcels of land at 36 N Market St and 235 East Bay St. These are directly beside each other and currently look like a parking lot. I don't know if what they purchased includes the buildings that are adjacent to the south and house existing commercial establishments or if it is just the parking lot.

What I beleive to be the parcel is highlighted in pink. It looks like it will be a great location in Charleston!

I also published a video about this to my YouTube channel this morning.

NEW MVC RESORT? We Now Know EXACTLY Where it Will Be!

A new Marriott Vacation Club property may be coming to Charleston South Carolina. Recently, Marriott Vacations Worldwide announced that they had acquired lan...

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[sponger76]

I did some digging and found the recorded deeds for the Charleston location. It looks like MVW paid about $16.5 million for what is two parcels of land at 36 N Market St and 235 East Bay St. These are directly beside each other and currently look like a parking lot. I don't know if what they purchased includes the buildings that are adjacent to the south and house existing commercial establishments or if it is just the parking lot.

What I beleive to be the parcel is highlighted in pink. It looks like it will be a great location in Charleston!
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I also published a video about this to my YouTube channel this morning.

NEW MVC RESORT? We Now Know EXACTLY Where it Will Be!

A new Marriott Vacation Club property may be coming to Charleston South Carolina. Recently, Marriott Vacations Worldwide announced that they had acquired lan...

bit.ly

Did a quick check and the 36 N Market Street property includes the building south of the parking lot.

The 235 E Bay St property is just the adjacent parking lot to the east of the 36 N Market St parking lot. Basically, when combined the entire parcel is an upside-down L; the building(s) on the corner of Bay and Market street that house the Church & Union Charleston and Savannah Candy Kitchen of Charleston are not part of the parcel. I'm wondering if MVC tried to purchase that one as well but were unsuccessful.

Edited to outline the entire parcel in the following picture:

 

[dioxide45]

Did a quick check and the 36 N Market Street property includes the building south of the parking lot, as shown in this picture:
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The 235 E Bay St property is just the adjacent parking lot to the east of the 36 N Market St parking lot. Basically, when combined the entire parcel is an upside-down L; the building(s) on the corner of Bay and Market street that house the Church & Union Charleston and Savannah Candy Kitchen of Charleston are not part of the parcel. I'm wondering if MVC tried to purchase that one as well but were unsuccessful.

Yeah, I did notice that the building on the southwest corner was actually 36 N Market and the parking. That does look like a more modern structure where the one on the southwest corner (32 N Market) is older. Even if they did acquire that southeast plot, they might not have been able to make any changes to the buildings as I am sure there are certain laws protecting historical buildings in Charleston.

 

[dioxide45]

Did a quick check and the 36 N Market Street property includes the building south of the parking lot.

The 235 E Bay St property is just the adjacent parking lot to the east of the 36 N Market St parking lot. Basically, when combined the entire parcel is an upside-down L; the building(s) on the corner of Bay and Market street that house the Church & Union Charleston and Savannah Candy Kitchen of Charleston are not part of the parcel. I'm wondering if MVC tried to purchase that one as well but were unsuccessful.

Edited to outline the entire parcel in the following picture:
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Thanks. I've updated my highlighted image to show the full parcel.

 

[sponger76]

Thanks. I've updated my highlighted image to show the full parcel.

No worries. I used https://webmap.onxmaps.com/hunt/map to find the property lines. It's technically meant to help hunters figure out property lines for where they can/can't hunt out in the countryside, and it shows the listed owner. But it still works in cities too. Not sure how up-to-date it always is, though. It still shows Pearce Development LLC as the owner of the parcel.

 

[jwalk03]

Looks cool! I hope they at least have kitchenettes with a stove top and fridge. And a pool.

 

[jme]

That WILL be a great location....extremely great!
It's literally "at the City Market" and at the same time bordering East Bay Street
which has many of the finest restaurants in the historic district only steps away.

Farthest walk to my list of Charleston restaurants on East Bay from there
might be 5-6 minutes, with closest ones only 2-3 minutes. (YES, I have a Charleston restaurant list.)
(Ex: SNOB aka "Slightly North of Broad", Grill 225, Magnolia's, High Cotton, Amen Street Fish & Raw Bar, Rue de Jean, Burwell's)
And several other great restaurants are around the "other" corner.
(Ex: Peninsula Grill, Hank's, CRU Cafe, Charleston Grill, Anson, 82 Queen, TBonz)

How do I know this?
We own 2 weeks at the historic district's most well-located timeshare Church Street Inn.
We have several usage options, but we typically split those 2 weeks into FOUR 2-night weekends any time of year, more usable for us as we're only 2.5 hrs drive away.
(1BR/1.5 bath two-level townhouse, townhouse begins on level 2 as Lobby, etc is on ground floor, private garden terrace, parking deck)
It's one of our most favorite properties "because it's Charleston", and it's in the perfect location in the historic district.
For many years we have enjoyed great dining at places we can easily walk to.
Nothing more romantic than holding hands and walking only 2-4 blocks to dinner every night.

We always have a car, but it remains parked because we walk everywhere, not only to the many fine restaurants but also
to the great shopping mecca along King Street which is only 2 blocks away. Great stores and boutiques of all kinds, cafes, gift shops, etc.
And one side borders Market Street where the famous City Market is.

And there are a few wonderful breakfast and/or lunch spots within 2-4 blocks also.
(Ex: Sweetwater Cafe, Another Broken Egg, Toast, Eli's Table, Meeting at Market)


Church Street Inn

And the best part about our "condo" and its location???
We're only one block from the luxurious Belmond Charleston Place Hotel, widely known as THE premier hotel in Charleston,
whose rates for a single room/suite range from $826 - $2,953 per night.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.........(see pics below)

'Scuse me, but we like Church Street Inn.
It's charming and the staff knows us by name each time we walk in.
We feel like we're on top of the world when we're there....it's just great.
And if we want to enjoy the Belmond, we just enter and hang out as long as we like.
Walk the corridor of luxurious indoor boutiques, dine at Charleston Grill, hang out in the palatial lobby, whatever.

Belmond Charleston Place on Market Street

 

[dioxide45]

Looks cool! I hope they at least have kitchenettes with a stove top and fridge. And a pool.

I think any pool, if at all, won't be much better or bigger than what you would see at a Fairfield Inn or Courtyard hotel. Might be rooftop or indoor. Though for some reason I doubt they will bother putting in a pool. The attraction with the location is the city, not a destination to swim.

 

[jwalk03]

I think any pool, if at all, won't be much better or bigger than what you would see at a Fairfield Inn or Courtyard hotel. Might be rooftop or indoor. Though for some reason I doubt they will bother putting in a pool. The attraction with the location is the city, not a destination to swim.

A rooftop one would def be cool!

 

[amycurl]

I think a rooftop pool would be amazing. I went to a private event at a converted loft building in Memphis many moons ago, and they had put it a fantastic, roof-edge plunge/small lap pool. It was great at night--it was lit--and some people at the event had taken their shoes off and were just dangling their feet in and chatting (it was that kind of event; all under 30 folks.)

I also really like the small pool in the courtyard at Avenue Plaza in NO--it's so nice (esp in warmer months, which will be similar to Charleston) to come back from a day of touring/activities, and take a dip and a have a bevvie before getting ready for the evening. It was really great. You're right--urban locations are not about lounging by Grande Ocean-esque pools all day, but they do have their purpose, and I am always kind of disappointed when a hotel doesn't have a pool. For example, I loved the 4th floor pool at the Renaissance in downtown Sao Paulo that I stayed at recently; again, the perfect place to unwind for an hour or so between day and evening plans.

 

[pedro47]

JME, The Church Street Inn Resort looks very, but is very hard to exchange into.

 

[jme]

JME, The Church Street Inn Resort looks very, but is very hard to exchange into.

Not sure about trading into or out, as we don't ever trade, but there is another timeshare nearby called the Lodge Alley Inn.
It's a Bluegreen-affiliated resort, which might be easier, but I don't know much about that one either except that
it was associated with RCI at one time and maybe still is.

 

[Dean]

Not sure about trading into or out, as we don't ever trade, but there is another timeshare nearby called the Lodge Alley Inn.
It's a Bluegreen-affiliated resort, which might be easier, but I don't know much about that one either except that
it was associated with RCI at one time and maybe still is.

I've traded in to CSI but it's been a while. LAI is affiliated with II and RCI but deposits mainly go to RCI. Bluegreen has another timeshare that's much newer but further out called King 583. Both LAI & CSI are older and quirky but really nice in many ways. BG also has a nice resort in the Savannah Historic district called Studio Homes at Ellis Square but I doubt it'll be available for exchange.