2022 Maintenance fees

[jhoug]

Got mine in mail 2 days ago.
Cypress Palms
2022 Maintenance Fees $4.75
Reserve Fund $1.70
Property Tax $0.71
Total $7.16

Panama City Beach
2022 Maintenance Fees $3.88
Reserve Fund $0.65
Property Tax $0.18
Total $4.71

Park City PR
2022 Maintenance Fees $3.72
Reserve Fund $1.06
Property Tax $0.17
Total $4.95
2021 Total $4.90
2020 Total $4.73

 

[AtlasRse]

Haven't received anything in the mail yet but just got off the MVC owners annual meeting.
Margaritaville MFs are going up 1.2% for 2022: 6.80 ==> 6.88 per thousand
Margaritaville PR MFs are going down 0.4% for 2022: 7.13 ==> 7.10 per thousand
This is excluding program fees.
I'm not sure how to add this to the sticky...

Is this for St. Thomas ??? seems to make sense for the PR, but not for non-PR ... Non-PR indicates 6.35 for 2021 ...

 

[AtlasRse]

Got mine in mail 2 days ago.
Cypress Palms
2022 Maintenance Fees $4.75
Reserve Fund $1.70
Property Tax $0.71
Total $7.16

Panama City Beach
2022 Maintenance Fees $3.88
Reserve Fund $0.65
Property Tax $0.18
Total $4.71

Park City PR
2022 Maintenance Fees $3.72
Reserve Fund $1.06
Property Tax $0.17
Total $4.95
2021 Total $4.90
2020 Total $4.73

spreadsheet with history updated...thx for the info

 

[AtlasRse]

Got mine in mail 2 days ago.
Cypress Palms
2022 Maintenance Fees $4.75
Reserve Fund $1.70
Property Tax $0.71
Total $7.16

Panama City Beach
2022 Maintenance Fees $3.88
Reserve Fund $0.65
Property Tax $0.18
Total $4.71

Park City PR
2022 Maintenance Fees $3.72
Reserve Fund $1.06
Property Tax $0.17
Total $4.95
2021 Total $4.90
2020 Total $4.73

History spreadsheet has been updated ... Thx

 

[meetseti]

Club Wyndham Access

• 2022 maintenance fees: $6.80
• Reserve fund: $0.13
• 2022 total: $6.93

 

[meetseti]

Also, here are rates for a couple of converted fixed weeks.

Fairfield Glade (Sterling Forest), 2br, prime season, 154k points:

• 2022 maintenance fees: $787.07
• Reserve fund: $199.47
• Property tax: $6.32
• 2022 total: $992.86

Fairfield Bay (Cliffside Lodge III), 2br, prime season, 154k points:

• 2022 maintenance fees: $640.81
• Reserve fund: $256.40
• Property tax: $13.27
• 2022 total: $910.48

The source for all of these is the 2022 annual assessment summary that came by mail. The totals don't include the program fee.

I hope someone can add these to the history spreadsheet — my access is view-only. Thanks!

 

[r4rab]

Is this for St. Thomas ??? seems to make sense for the PR, but not for non-PR ... Non-PR indicates 6.35 for 2021 ...

This is from the budget for the Margaritaville Vacation Owners Association. The annual meeting was this past week. Unfortunately I can't compare the 2021 numbers to my St.Thomas contract MFs since the website isn't showing them now :-(. Also, those numbers were all in (excluding program fee) - MF, reserve fund, prop taxes.

 

[paxsarah]

Ocean Boulevard phase III
2022 Maintenance fees: $4.00
Reserve fund: $1.15
Property tax: $0.25
Total HOA: $5.40
increase of 2.7%

Ocean Boulevard phase I
2022 Maintenance fees: $4.96
Reserve fund: $1.54
Property tax: $0.25
Total HOA: $6.75
increase of 3.2%

Flagstaff Tanglewood 2BR F/W
2022 Maintenance fees: $725.14
Reserve fund: $168.00
Property tax: $26.14
Total HOA: $919.28
increase of 14.9%

That Flagstaff increase is rough, but it's hard to complain since it went down 4.5% in 2021. And it's still my lowest MF/k.

Also adding that program fee (not included above) is now $.66/k for resale, $.68/k for retail. Minimum $170 resale, $190 retail.

 

[cbyrne1174]

Ocean Boulevard phase III
2022 Maintenance fees: $4.00
Reserve fund: $1.15
Property tax: $0.25
Total HOA: $5.40
increase of 2.7%

Ocean Boulevard phase I
2022 Maintenance fees: $4.96
Reserve fund: $1.54
Property tax: $0.25
Total HOA: $6.75
increase of 3.2%

Flagstaff Tanglewood 2BR F/W
2022 Maintenance fees: $725.14
Reserve fund: $168.00
Property tax: $26.14
Total HOA: $919.28
increase of 14.9%

That Flagstaff increase is rough, but it's hard to complain since it went down 4.5% in 2021. And it's still my lowest MF/k.

Also adding that program fee (not included above) is now $.66/k for resale, $.68/k for retail. Minimum $170 resale, $190 retail.

If the minimum fee is now $170, then you would need at least 258,000 points to surpass the min program fee.

 

[scootr5]

Smoky Mountains (Governors Crossing 1)
2022 Maintenance fees: $4.02
Reserve fund: $1.71
Property tax: $0.27
Total HOA: $6.00
increase of 3.8%

South Shore
2022 Maintenance fees: $3.58
Reserve fund: $0.76
Property tax: $0.14
Total HOA: $4.48
increase of 5.2%

 

[chapjim]

Ocean Walk
2022 Maintenance Fees: $4.38
Reserve Fund: $1.25
Property Tax: $0.66
Total HOA: $6.29, an increase of 2.8%

Bonnet Creek (Presidential Reserve)
2022 Maintenance Fees: $5.05
Reserve Fund: $1.07
Property Tax: $0.72
Total HOA: $6.84, an increase of 1.8%

Bonnet Creek (UDI)
2022 Maintenance Fees: $4.68
Reserve Fund: $0.97
Property Tax: $0.72
Total HOA: $6.37, an increase of 1.1%

Royal Vista (UDI)
2022 Maintenance Fees: $5.08
Reserve Fund: $1.81
Property Tax: $0.44
Total HOA: $7.33, an increase of 6.1%

Orlando International (F/W)
2022 Maintenance Fees: $4.25
Reserve Fund: $1.40
Property Tax: $0.51
Total HOA: $6.16, an increase of 9.0%

 

[Melder]

spreadsheet with history updated...thx for the info

@AtlasRse - There's a typo on Panama City Beach in the Wyndham HOA Maint. Fees - History. It should be $4.71.

 

[Melder]

View attachment 43259
Cutting and pasting isn't a whole lot of fun. I hope that I haven't made a mistake.
Here are the 2022 maintenance figures. As it turns out, Canterbury is the lowest maintenance contract that I now have. You just might want to hold on to those two.
I'm not sure that I want to give them up, however they are the one that I offered to you. So, there we are.

I pulled these from another thread, since they are not yet posted here...

Wyndham Sedona
2022 Maintenance fees: $4.34
Reserve fund: $1.31
Property tax: $0.19
Total HOA: $5.84

Wyndham Canterbury
2022 Maintenance fees: $2.64
Reserve fund: $0.74
Property tax: $0.40
Total HOA: $3.78

Wyndham Grand Desert (Tower 1&2)
2022 Maintenance fees: $3.90
Reserve fund: $1.07
Property tax: $0.16
Total HOA: $5.13

 

[bobinmich]

Kingsgate went UP 10.8 percent....like WTH.... I have (2) kingsgate contracts.... 1 is a F/DS and 1 is a F/W. F/DS is 238k points, F/W is 126k points.
F/DS
Maint fee 3.29
Res fund 1.47
Prop tax .16
Total HOA 4.92

F/W
Maint fee 4.34
Res fund 1.95
Prop tax .21
Total HOA 6.50

What is the DIFFERENCE between the 2 contracts? F/DS vs F/W both bought resale.

 

[bnoble]

What is the DIFFERENCE between the 2 contracts? F/DS vs F/W both bought resale.

I think these are converted fixed (or floating) weeks. Such weeks at the same resort can have very different $/K ratios, depending on the size and season. I'm guessing one of your units is a Prime 3BR Lockoff while the other is a High 2BR Dlx. Larger units are generally better deals; higher seasons always are.

 

[ausman]

Kingsgate went UP 10.8 percent....like WTH.... I have (2) kingsgate contracts.... 1 is a F/DS and 1 is a F/W. F/DS is 238k points, F/W is 126k points.

What is the DIFFERENCE between the 2 contracts? F/DS vs F/W both bought resale.

Kingsgate has both UDI and fixed weeks. You appear to have converted fixed weeks as designated by the F. You need to go to the points chart for Kingsgate and see what the point values are, and, how they match up with your point allocation.

I'm guessing (as I don't own any Kingsgate) that the F/DS for 238K points is a converted 3 bedroom lock-off in a prime week since the 1BR and 2BR are allocated 84K and 154K respectively totaling 238K points. Similarly the 126K points corresponds to the 2 BR part of the 3 BR lock-off in a high season week.

Thanks for posting this, over the years there has been a dearth of converted weeks MF's posted as the people who own them are not certain of what they own and as a consequence what gets posted are the UDI MF's. We collectively have lost the history of converted weeks MFs as the last comprehensive listing is from 2017.

ADDENDUM pertaining to the MF history spreadsheet:

In the relevant tab on the MF history spreadsheet in the Converted Weeks Master, on rows 245-247 it shows:
Williamsburg-Kingsgate-A
Williamsburg-Kingsgate-B
Williamsburg-Kingsgate-C
from the 2017 figures it would seem the C corresponds to the lock off, A to the 2 BR, and B the 1 BR.

If you were to report the MFs for 2022 I would do something like:

Williamsburg-Kingsgate-A-F/W-2BR $819
Williamsburg-Kingsgate-B
Williamsburg-Kingsgate-C-F/DS 3BR L/O $1,170.96

Of course the $ figures are derived by multiplying the points allocated by the rate per thousand.

 

[cbyrne1174]

Total HOA Royal Gardens: $5.44
Total HOA Smoky Mountains Governor's Crossing II: $5.63
Total HOA Towers on the Grove: $5.12
Total HOA Grand Desert 1 and 2: $5.13
Total HOA Grand Desert 3: $5.23

Towers on the Grove is such a good (but not very well known) deed to have because it has lower MF than Grand Desert now and you get 13 month ARP for all of the Myrtle Beach presidential units.

 

[AtlasRse]

Also, here are rates for a couple of converted fixed weeks.

Fairfield Glade (Sterling Forest), 2br, prime season, 154k points:

• 2022 maintenance fees: $787.07
• Reserve fund: $199.47
• Property tax: $6.32
• 2022 total: $992.86

Fairfield Bay (Cliffside Lodge III), 2br, prime season, 154k points:

• 2022 maintenance fees: $640.81
• Reserve fund: $256.40
• Property tax: $13.27
• 2022 total: $910.48

The source for all of these is the 2022 annual assessment summary that came by mail. The totals don't include the program fee.

I hope someone can add these to the history spreadsheet — my access is view-only. Thanks!

DONE.... File is updated now

 

[AtlasRse]

Ocean Boulevard phase III
2022 Maintenance fees: $4.00
Reserve fund: $1.15
Property tax: $0.25
Total HOA: $5.40
increase of 2.7%

Ocean Boulevard phase I
2022 Maintenance fees: $4.96
Reserve fund: $1.54
Property tax: $0.25
Total HOA: $6.75
increase of 3.2%

Flagstaff Tanglewood 2BR F/W
2022 Maintenance fees: $725.14
Reserve fund: $168.00
Property tax: $26.14
Total HOA: $919.28
increase of 14.9%

That Flagstaff increase is rough, but it's hard to complain since it went down 4.5% in 2021. And it's still my lowest MF/k.

Also adding that program fee (not included above) is now $.66/k for resale, $.68/k for retail. Minimum $170 resale, $190 retail.

Master s/s is now updated ... Thanks for the info

 

[AtlasRse]

Smoky Mountains (Governors Crossing 1)
2022 Maintenance fees: $4.02
Reserve fund: $1.71
Property tax: $0.27
Total HOA: $6.00
increase of 3.8%

South Shore
2022 Maintenance fees: $3.58
Reserve fund: $0.76
Property tax: $0.14
Total HOA: $4.48
increase of 5.2%

Master s/s updated....Thanks for the info

 

[AtlasRse]

Ocean Walk
2022 Maintenance Fees: $4.38
Reserve Fund: $1.25
Property Tax: $0.66
Total HOA: $6.29, an increase of 2.8%

Bonnet Creek (Presidential Reserve)
2022 Maintenance Fees: $5.05
Reserve Fund: $1.07
Property Tax: $0.72
Total HOA: $6.84, an increase of 1.8%

Bonnet Creek (UDI)
2022 Maintenance Fees: $4.68
Reserve Fund: $0.97
Property Tax: $0.72
Total HOA: $6.37, an increase of 1.1%

Royal Vista (UDI)
2022 Maintenance Fees: $5.08
Reserve Fund: $1.81
Property Tax: $0.44
Total HOA: $7.33, an increase of 6.1%

Orlando International (F/W)
2022 Maintenance Fees: $4.25
Reserve Fund: $1.40
Property Tax: $0.51
Total HOA: $6.16, an increase of 9.0%

Master s/s updated...Thanks for the info

 

[AtlasRse]

Total HOA Royal Gardens: $5.44
Total HOA Smoky Mountains Governor's Crossing II: $5.63
Total HOA Towers on the Grove: $5.12
Total HOA Grand Desert 1 and 2: $5.13
Total HOA Grand Desert 3: $5.23

Towers on the Grove is such a good (but not very well known) deed to have because it has lower MF than Grand Desert now and you get 13 month ARP for all of the Myrtle Beach presidential units.

Master s/s has been updated ... Thanks for the info

 

[Tim Gentry]

32% Increase this year!!!!!!!
Wyndham Resort at Fairfield Plantation (Converted F/W - Club Wyndham Villas at Fairfield)
2022 Maintenance Fees: $6.26
Reserve Fund: $0.37
Property Tax: $0.115
Total HOA: $6.76, an increase of 32%

 

[meetseti]

@AtlasRse Here are 2022 rates for a couple more fixed weeks. Both are EOYE weeks that have not been converted.

Wyndham Shearwater, 2br:

• 2022 maintenance fee $708.49
• Reserve fund: $266.46
• HOA (Assn of Apt Owners): $697.06
• Total: $1672.01

Bali Hai, 2br upper floor:

• 2022 maintenance fee $507.39
• Reserve fund: $292.08
• HOA (Assn of Apt Owners): $508.41
• Total: $1307.88

 

[paxsarah]

There's a small error on the spreadsheet. The line for Wyndham Nashville lists the resort name as "Nashville Margaritaville," but those historic MF rates are certainly just Wyndham Nashville. I guess maybe we've never gotten a data point for the Nashville Margaritaville, but what's on the spreadsheet is just the regular Club Wyndham.