[ 2022 ] Became 5* Elite today....

[travelhacker]

My resale non requalified mandatory ownership has me at 3*elite today.

Can I ask you how many abound points you will have?

 

[remowidget]

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[alexadeparis]

was 4 star = still 4 star (with retro Harborside in there)

 

[CalGalTraveler]

Nope still pond scum elite. We are EOY WKORVN mandatory resale so only about 4100 Abound a year which would be Select.

 

[KACTravels]

I thought I knew the Vistana website pretty well, but for the life of me I can't see where you are seeing Elite Status except for clicking on Banking and it is in perenthesis. Is that where you all are seeing it? Sorry to ask, but is there an easier way to see it?

 

[jimwu921]

I thought I knew the Vistana website pretty well, but for the life of me I can't see where you are seeing Elite Status except for clicking on Banking and it is in perenthesis. Is that where you all are seeing it? Sorry to ask, but is there an easier way to see it?

There is a Vistana app that can be downloaded for either iPhone or Google phone. Once installed and logged into, you can see it at dashboard.

 

[KACTravels]

There is a Vistana app that can be downloaded for either iPhone or Google phone. Once installed and logged into, you can see it at dashboard.

HAHA! Thanks! I hardly ever use the app because it seems to always send me to the Website. I appreciate your quick reply

 

[Ken555]

Nope still pond scum elite.

Pond scum unite!
*where all stars are equal

 

[CalGalTraveler]

Ha! Ha! Instead of "All Stars" we are "No Stars!" (FWIW...I am still laughing all the way to the bank on my discounted resale!)

 

[TravelTime]

Nope still pond scum elite. We are EOY WKORVN mandatory resale so only about 4100 Abound a year which would be Select.

Same here. I never even got the email announcement.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

Same here. I never even got the email announcement.

I received the email...we should know in a few weeks what this means.

 

[teddyo333]

I don't know if this was taken into consideration when assigning the recent Elite levels in Vistana but I found the following (old information that pertains to SPG but may still have some merit):

Three Star Elite Member *** must own two or more weeks, worth at least 159,000 StarOptions

Four Star Member **** must own weeks’ worth at least 359,000 StarOptions

Five Star Member ***** must own weeks’ worth at least 649,000 StarOptions

Can someone confirm if their newly assigned elite status falls within the range above? I think this would at least help those that are trying to figure out if the elite status is mapped to the value of their units if converted in the new Abound program or if Marriott is using the old method to determine elite status and just including resale Mandatory units in the calculation

 

[jimwu921]

I don't know if this was taken into consideration when assigning the recent Elite levels in Vistana but I found the following (old information that pertains to SPG but may still have some merit):

Three Star Elite Member *** must own two or more weeks, worth at least 159,000 StarOptions

Four Star Member **** must own weeks’ worth at least 359,000 StarOptions

Five Star Member ***** must own weeks’ worth at least 649,000 StarOptions

Can someone confirm if their newly assigned elite status falls within the range above? I think this would at least help those that are trying to figure out if the elite status is mapped to the value of their units if converted in the new Abound program or if Marriott is using the old method to determine elite status and just including resale Mandatory units in the calculation

Hmmm.....I have about 470k SOs (mandatory resale) and should be not be listed as 5 star. Unless they also consider my voluntary WLR weeks. With all of that my SOs exceed 649k

 

[grrrah]

Nope still pond scum elite. We are EOY WKORVN mandatory resale so only about 4100 Abound a year which would be Select.

Did I miss confirmation somewhere that mandatory resales count toward OBLs?

 

[teddyo333]

Hmmm.....I have about 470k SOs (mandatory resale) and should be not be listed as 5 star. Unless they also consider my voluntary WLR weeks. With all of that my SOs exceed 649k

So I took another look of the FAQ for Owner Benefits and based off of the chart below the final determination of Marriott Elite status may still be pending. The newly assigned VSN Elite status may be just a starting point/Minimum Elite Status. That is the reason why for example the "4-Star Elite" VSN status maps to "Presidential or Higher". The final elite level may be determined by the "election values" of the units

 

[HankW]

So I took another look of the FAQ for Owner Benefits and based off of the chart below the final determination of Marriott Elite status may still be pending. The newly assigned VSN Elite status may be just a starting point/Minimum Elite Status. That is the reason why for example the "4-Star Elite" VSN status maps to "Presidential or Higher". The final elite level may be determined by the "election values" of the units

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I believe this is tracking correctly. Just using VSN elite determination, I am 3* and have been for a long time. Now, on VSN it shows as 4* I made the addition using the excel spreadsheet we have here and I am at just barely above 10,000 points by a few points, narrowly getting into the presidential level by just a few points. So this is tracking with what I was expecting - barely a bump up but was not sure if my calculation was correct. Now, I have not received anything official information from SVN or MVC, so this can change.

 

[5finny]

So my Vistana account shows I am 3-star elite
I have 2 half ownerships and 1 full ownership all mandatory and all bought resale
Based upon election values I have seen I should be Executive in Marriott
Does that mean I may be grandfathered into the Presidential level ?
Seems too good so I am guessing not

 

[HankW]

So my Vistana account shows I am 3-star elite
I have 2 half ownerships and 1 full ownership all mandatory and all bought resale
Based upon election values I have seen I should be Executive in Marriott
Does that mean I may be grandfathered into the Presidential level ?
Seems too good so I am guessing not

No expert here, but I believe it is based on your total annual points. I used the excel spreadsheet to guestimate how many points I am going to have available every year and it came out at just above 10K by a few points. This may explain why I am showing as 4* for now, like they are getting ready for the switch. It also sounds that all mandatory prior to 8/9 are counted in. I sure hope that the excel spreadsheet is very close to reality. Well, TBD....

 

[teddyo333]

No expert here, but I believe it is based on your total annual points. I used the excel spreadsheet to guestimate how many points I am going to have available every year and it came out at just above 10K by a few points. This may explain why I am showing as 4* for now, like they are getting ready for the switch. It also sounds that all mandatory prior to 8/9 are counted in. I sure hope that the excel spreadsheet is very close to reality. Well, TBD....

Same here my calculations, using the points associated with the mandatory units we own, placed us just under 12K points (4*/Presidential). I have one unit that didn't make the 8/9 cut-off but it doesn't matter since the additional 2600 points would not have changed our status and the benefits between Presidential and Chairman is very small IMHO.

 

[Alwaystravelling]

Hilarious. I'm at 677,400 units between owing a 1BR at WKORV and seven 2BR platinum at Vistana Bella and Key West. I got 5-star. I've been to so many presentations and listened to their bull$hit about how I wasn't getting my benefits, etc because they were resale. I think it's just the most hilarious thing in the world.

 

[KS2beach]

Anyone who is listed as 5 star, were you expecting to be chairman in the abound program? And do any of you have Harborside? I’m still floored I was Dropped to 3 star!

i had heard something about Harborside and Westin Riverfront not participating maybe has something to do with it? but i just looked on the new abound sight and both those properties are listed. (I own at Westin Riverfront, West Kierland, and in Marriott and I'm still just an "owner"

 

[jimwu921]

I was just member but MVC updated me as chairman's club today!!

Even though all of the Vistana weeks are yet to linked.

 

[teddyo333]

I was just member but MVC updated me as chairman's club today!!

Even though all of the Vistana weeks are yet to linked.

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Thanks for the update. I just checked as well and my benefit level has also changed from "Owner" to "Presidential"

 

[divenski]

A WKORV resale week has pushed me from Presidential with MVC weeks to Chairman's Club. It's not a huge change in benefits, but I'll take it.

Also, there was a sign-in message about how the website will be down this Sunday for 15 hours.

 

[dioxide45]

Was finally able to check today through the App, it is showing 3 Star Elite there for us and we own two mandatory resale. Though not enough StarOptions (if they were direct) for any level and the number of Abound Club Points just from our Vistana ownership wouldn't get us to Executive, but if adding in the Club Points on the Marriott side it would.