2019 Maintenance fees

[cbyrne1174]

I just received my year end update for one of my contracts. Royal Garden is now 5.07 per thousand. Has anyone seen what Access fees are next year? I like using that number for comparison so I can see how my fees compare to the average ^_^

 

[OutSkiing]

I just received my year end update for one of my contracts. Royal Garden is now 5.07 per thousand. Has anyone seen what Access fees are next year? I like using that number for comparison so I can see how my fees compare to the average ^_^

I have not received mine yet.

But oddly enough, we were at an owners update on Sunday and they ran off the usual sheet showing all our ownings and the fees for each. The sales lady thought they were 2018 fees but in fact they are all higher than my 2018 fees so I think they are the 2019 fees! Yes .. it says rate year 2019! I happened to take a picture on my cell phone:

CWA fee : $5.99 per thousand (up from $5.76 in 2018)

The program fee for all resorts is now $.60 per thousand (up from $.58 in 2018)

The HOA breakdown by Maintenance fee / Reserve Fee / Taxes are not on this sheet .. just total HOA and Program fees.

Bob

 

[Jan M.]

Grand Desert, Tower 3, when from $4.66 to $4.82 so up .16
Waikiki Beach Walk went from $4.71 to $4.84 so up .13
Panama City Beach, Presidential Reserve, went from $4.32 to $4.50 so up .18

 

[Melder]

Grand Desert Tower 2 is going up to $4.73 per thousand points, up from $4.60 in '18.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Grand Desert, Tower 3, when from $4.66 to $4.82 so up .16
Waikiki Beach Walk went from $4.71 to $4.84 so up .13
Panama City Beach, Presidential Reserve, went from $4.32 to $4.50 so up .18

Do these rates include the program fee as well? I didn't realize PCB was that low, nice.

 

[Sandy VDH]

Do these rates include the program fee as well? I didn't realize PCB was that low, nice.

No program fees are on top of that.

Program fees went up 2 cents per thousand across the board:
Members without Plus Partners now .58 per 1,000 points or $135 whichever is greater
Members with Plus Partners now .60 per 1,000 points or $155 whichever is greater
PR Members now $0.66 per 1,000 points for the first one million points, then $0.60 per 1,000 points for the remaining points owned under the membership

 

[Sandy VDH]

Bonnet creek when from 5.87 to 6.16 so up 0.29 per 1,000 points

That is nearly double the increase from some of the other locations.

 

[Jan M.]

Do these rates include the program fee as well? I didn't realize PCB was that low, nice.

Presidential reserve points at PCB pay higher maintenance fees than CWS, Club Wyndham Select, points at PCB. I believe all presidential reserve points are higher maintenance fees at all the resorts that are part of the presidential reserve program because PR owners are paying for the Registry Collection.

 

[Richelle]

Bali Hai Converted float week even $4.03 7.2% decrease

Branson UDI $6.31 3% increase

National Harbor UDI $4.24 2.5% increase


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[schoolmarm]

National Harbor $4.24 (up 10¢/1000, matches Richelle's)
Sedona $5.26 (up 16¢/1000)
Bali Hai $3.66 (up 12¢/1000--Doesn't match Richelle's) Mine is a EOY Wyndham Bali Hai Villas

These are assessments without the Program Fee (up 2¢/1000 from 58¢ to 60¢)

 

[drepublic]

Do these rates include the program fee as well? I didn't realize PCB was that low, nice.

This is interesting. We love Panama City and I own 326,000 at Clearwater. I eventually want to get to VIP Silver and if PCB Fees are that low, would it be worth considering buying the minimum difference at PCB to get to VIP long term? I realize I'll pay a premium for PCB. Someone looking to upgrade points with several Access Points may consider doing what I did at Clearwater moving them in there...though my reasoning wasn't specifically for lowering maintenance fees rather gaining ARP, at that rate it may work for someone.

 

[Richelle]

National Harbor $4.24 (up 10¢/1000, matches Richelle's)
Sedona $5.26 (up 16¢/1000)
Bali Hai $3.66 (up 12¢/1000--Doesn't match Richelle's) Mine is a EOY Wyndham Bali Hai Villas

These are assessments without the Program Fee (up 2¢/1000 from 58¢ to 60¢)

Bali Hai is weird in they have multiple rates. If you look at 2017 rates, you’ll see there were several different rates. Also, part of suspects that Wyndham may have been overcharging me which is why such a large decrease


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[Richelle]

National Harbor $4.24 (up 10¢/1000, matches Richelle's)
Sedona $5.26 (up 16¢/1000)
Bali Hai $3.66 (up 12¢/1000--Doesn't match Richelle's) Mine is a EOY Wyndham Bali Hai Villas

These are assessments without the Program Fee (up 2¢/1000 from 58¢ to 60¢)

Tapatalk doesn’t let me copy and paste, so I had to take a screen shot. This is 2017’s reported rates. Mine is a converted float week which is different then typical UDI.

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[scootr5]

Smoky Mountains - 2.8% increase
Maintenance Fees $3.85
Reserve Fund $1.46
Property Tax $0.16
TOTAL $5.47

South Shore - 5.3% increase
Maintenance Fees $3.33
Reserve Fund $0.68
Property Tax $0.12
TOTAL $4.13

 

[scootr5]

Bonnet creek when from 5.87 to 6.16 so up 0.29 per 1,000 points

That is nearly double the increase from some of the other locations.

That's 4.9%, so larger than most (but still less than my South Shore).

 

[Sandy VDH]

That's 4.9%, so larger than most (but still less than my South Shore).

Yes, but....

BC is now over $2 more per K than South Shore. Don't be complaining about South Shore.

 

[scootr5]

Yes, but....

BC is now over $2 more per K than South Shore. Don't be complaining about South Shore.

It wasn't meant as a complaint, merely an observation.

 

[spackler]

La Belle Maison UDI - 4% increase
Maintenance Fees: $4.26
Reserve Fund: $0.98
Property Tax: $0.24
TOTAL $5.48

 

[OutSkiing]

We should all use Scott's format:

CWA - 4% increase
Maintenance Fees $5.86
Reserve Fund $0.13
Property Tax
TOTAL $5.99

National Harbor - 2.4% increase
Maintenance Fees $3.12
Reserve Fund $.65
Property Tax $0.47
TOTAL $4.24

Ocean Blvd - 3.7% increase
Maintenance Fees $3.78
Reserve Fund $1.07
Property Tax $0.22
TOTAL $5.07

Bali Hai AFLO - one cent increase (had to divide total by points)
Maintenance Fees $2.62
Reserve Fund $.84
Property Tax $0.28
Local Tax $.11
TOTAL $3.86

 

[Melder]

Grand Desert Tower 2 is going up to $4.73 per thousand points, up from $4.60 in '18.

Updated with detail...

Grand Desert Tower 2 - 2.8% increase
Maintenance Fees $3.70
Reserve Fund $.90
Property Tax $0.13
TOTAL $4.73

 

[bendadin]

WBC $6.16
CWA $5.99
Bay Club $616.95 for 140k = $4.41
Panama City Beach $4.35
Bali Hai $3.66
Grand Desert $4.73

So essentially $19.85/month higher.

 

[geerlijd]

Canterbury UDI - 1.1% increase
Maintenance Fees: $2.72
Reserve Fund: $0.50
Property Tax: $0.37
TOTAL $3.59

Bali Hai UDI - 3.4% increase
Maintenance Fees $2.62
Reserve Fund $0.61
Property Tax $0.27
Local Tax $.16
TOTAL $3.66

 

[VegasBella]

Just paid my Wyndham Avenue Plaza (New Orleans) legacy deeded week MF. They were $779.45

 

[Sandy VDH]

Bonnet Creek - 4.9% increase
Maintenance Fees $4.07
Reserve Fund $1.04
Property Tax $1.05
TOTAL $6.16


Any idea why property taxes in BC are so high compared to other places?

 

[CCdad]

Any idea why property taxes in BC are so high compared to other places?

Someone suggested a long time ago that Florida tax assessors may only consider recent developer sales of a timeshare as more indicative of FMV than recent resales. And if many TS's in FL are owned by non-residents, there's less likely to be folks willing to travel to the respective local taxing jurisdictions to challenge their assessments (which are collected at the resort level anyway). So I just chalk it up as another tourism tax to offset their infrastructure costs.