[2012] "Should My Week(s) Be Enrolled?"

[dioxide45]

Well, they were good to their word and the price did go up, with no 800 bonus point offer. There is a teaser about enrollment discounts if you speak to a sales associate; I'm guessing that the new hook will be free or discounted enrollment with the purchase of a minimum points package.

I was half expecting pre-6/20/10 resale weeks to be excluded or some other catch, since it really is a modest price increase for enrolling those weeks, comparatively speaking at least. However, the enrollment opportunity remains the same with a singular pricing for all week(s) that are eligible.

I noticed that, looking at the Enrollment Notice when you click on the Enroll Now link it contains this verbiage. Bolding is mine.

You may enroll certain week(s) in the Exchange Program for only $2,395. Except for certain weeks purchased from Marriott Vacation Club or its affiliates, weeks that were purchased and recorded after June 20, 2010 are not eligible for this offer. Weeks purchased from third parties (i.e., not from Marriott Vacation Club) with a deed recording date prior to June 20, 2010 may be eligible for this offer. Offer is valid for weeks located at U.S. and Caribbean only.

Funny how that it indicates third party purchase prior to 6/10/10 may be eligible. Does that also mean that they may not? Strange and unnecessary wording. Just say they are or are not.

 

[dioxide45]

When you click on the Learn More link on the main page at my-vacationclub.com there is still a bullet "Plus, enrolling is available at a special introductory price". When you click on special introductory price there is verbiage about contacting your sales executive to receive enrollment discounts. As suspected, there will likely be some type of discount for additional trust point purchases.

 

[JimC]

The "may" be eligible might depend on the number of trust points you agree to buy while enrolling the previously ineligible week.

Sill not enrolled as it would only increase our annual costs based on our use.

 

[SDMiller]

We did it :whoopie: Just in the nick of time - I thought the deadline was June 14, and read a little more on their website and said it is now or never. Talked my husband into it. I explained we will save so much with II annual membership, trade fees and Marriott fees for depositing weeks for points. So at 8pm pacific time I joined online. I saw right away my weeks were enrolled and available for points.

We did not enroll one week that we had committed to trade with a Tugger for July 2013. I didn't want to risk not having it available with the points. So how does that work if I add that last week next year, what will I pay???

Thanks again for all your support, as usual, Tuggers are so knowledgeable!

SD

 

[Cmore]

We did it :whoopie: Just in the nick of time - I thought the deadline was June 14, and read a little more on their website and said it is now or never. Talked my husband into it. I explained we will save so much with II annual membership, trade fees and Marriott fees for depositing weeks for points. So at 8pm pacific time I joined online. I saw right away my weeks were enrolled and available for points.

We did not enroll one week that we had committed to trade with a Tugger for July 2013. I didn't want to risk not having it available with the points. So how does that work if I add that last week next year, what will I pay???

Thanks again for all your support, as usual, Tuggers are so knowledgeable!
SD

You may want to call Marriott and have that week added to your DC enrollment. Explain confusion, etc. Enrolling does nothing to current reservations or II deposits. Just provides new DC options. I don't know the exact make up of you existing portfolio of weeks as to
developer/resale purchases, but if it would not materially affect your current out of pocket
significantly I'd get that week included in your enrollment ASAP to avoid other fees. If you
knowingly only enrolled developer weeks at the $595/695 rate, then it's a bigger decision to
add a resale week and have a $2k total enrollment fee.

 

[dioxide45]

You may want to call Marriott and have that week added to your DC enrollment. Explain confusion, etc. Enrolling does nothing to current reservations or II deposits. Just provides new DC options. I don't know the exact make up of you existing portfolio of weeks as to
developer/resale purchases, but if it would not materially affect your current out of pocket
significantly I'd get that week included in your enrollment ASAP to avoid other fees. If you
knowingly only enrolled developer weeks at the $595/695 rate, then it's a bigger decision to
add a resale week and have a $2k total enrollment fee.

I agree, enrolling that week would not have affected the usage of that week at all. To call and enroll now it may cost the different between what was paid pre 6/14 and now.

 

[dioxide45]

The "may" be eligible might depend on the number of trust points you agree to buy while enrolling the previously ineligible week.

Sill not enrolled as it would only increase our annual costs based on our use.

Could be correct. Have you been in to the system to see if it would even allow you to enroll resale weeks at the $2395 pricing? Or would it prompt you to contact a sales executive? I can't check since we are enrolled. Any unenrolled resale owner could check on this.

 

[SDMiller]

I called first thing this AM and they added to my account.

The 800 bonus points expires in 1 year?

SD

 

[dioxide45]

I called first thing this AM and they added to my account.

The 800 bonus points expires in 1 year?

SD

Great, no extra cost to enroll it I hope?

Yes, they will expire one year from when they are issued. You will be able to see the expiration date online and in the e-mail they send you once they are available.

 

[JimC]

Could be correct. Have you been in to the system to see if it would even allow you to enroll resale weeks at the $2395 pricing? Or would it prompt you to contact a sales executive? I can't check since we are enrolled. Any unenrolled resale owner could check on this.

I just checked and my resale and direct weeks qualified for enrollment.

 

[m61376]

We did it :whoopie: Just in the nick of time - I thought the deadline was June 14, and read a little more on their website and said it is now or never. Talked my husband into it. I explained we will save so much with II annual membership, trade fees and Marriott fees for depositing weeks for points. So at 8pm pacific time I joined online. I saw right away my weeks were enrolled and available for points.

We did not enroll one week that we had committed to trade with a Tugger for July 2013. I didn't want to risk not having it available with the points. So how does that work if I add that last week next year, what will I pay???

Thanks again for all your support, as usual, Tuggers are so knowledgeable!

SD

Glad they accommodated you and enrolled the lone week. Just so you're clear on this, enrolling does not change your ability to make reservations, use the week, rent the week, make private exchanges or trade the week via II. You have the option to exchange it for DC points and make points reservations, but that is an option and you can continue business as usual, with the exception that your DC annual fee includes locking off and trading to other Marriotts in II.

 

[FrostyKev]

I guess it wasn't for me. I misread it and thought 6/14 was the deadline. I went to go register and they want the 2395. . . so since I screwed up I guess it wasn't meant to be! I figure I'll call tomorrow and ask but it sounds like a semi hard line. . . oh well, maybe they'll offer another special another time. . . the added flexibility might have been nice, but it isn't a deal breaker. . . heck maybe I just saved 700!!!

 

[MOXJO7282]

Funny how that it indicates third party purchase prior to 6/10/10 may be eligible. Does that also mean that they may not? Strange and unnecessary wording. Just say they are or are not.

The fact that they had that 6/10/10 cutoff ultimately made it a no go for me as I really didn't want to have two separate II accounts. I would have done every one of mine if they would've allowed.

I thought they could have made exception for prime locations like mine instead of by date as they made need inventory in the trust that they probably will never get.

 

[jont]

Actually, I think this is important enough to expand a bit ...

When the DC was first rolled out one of the Enrollment Terms and Conditions was a voting restriction that stated, "1.) Owner represents and warrants to MVCEC that, as a Exchange Member, Owner: e.) will not exercise any vote Owner may have in the owners" association ("Resort Association") operating the resort in which Owner's Timeshare Interest is located ("Resort") in a manner that is, in MVCEC's reasonable discretion, detrimental to the Program, including, without limitation, voting to limit or terminate the Resort's participation in the Program."

That restriction, #1.e., was removed from the document sometime before March 1, 2011, and has not been replaced with anything that restricts the voting rights of an enrolled Member in any way, especially and specifically with respect to the voting rights that every Weeks owner has by virtue of the Weeks governing docs.

For many owners that voting restriction was a significant factor for not enrolling their Week(s) in the DC. IMO it's important to make it clear that it no longer exists in any form.

thanks Sue, I thought it was in the original provisions. I must of missed or completely forgotten that it was removed.

 

[Pomme]

Hi,

I don't know if it's too late to ask here. I really hope someone will suggest what should I do.

I have one week at Marriott Phuket Beach Club, been using it to exchange via II to stay at Marriott Newport Coast Villas every year. It's hard to book, but managed to get one every year. I was wondering, if DC is good for me, since the week I book is a high season week (early April) while my home resort week is a gold week.

At the moment, my gold week, with a good chance, I get get a week at Marriott Newport Coast on their high season. If I enroll, I will probably not benefit from this because the amount of DC I will get from gold week, will be less compare to number of DC I will need to stay at the other place during high season? I should keep my week?

My gold week from Marriott Phuket = DC2500, they offer 800 DC on top if I enrolled within this year, the enrollment fee is USD595.

I wonder about the amount of week that are deposit into II each year, and the amount of DC (weeks) that are available through Marriott DC programme are equally or which one has more, which would give me more chance of getting the week I want? Anyone know the figures of how many week owner has turn their week into DC?

The benefit I will get is: I will probably borrow DC from future year to cover my additional nights that is more than a week, I usually use 7+5 nights.

As I read the forum, it's said that DC is just another way of exchange, when I enroll, I can still exchange my week via II as a week? If I have DC, I can book a week at my home resort for a week, then deposit to II, then exchange for a week at other place, pretty much the same way I do now?

Thank you very much in advance for your kind advise.

 

[bazzap]

Hi,

I don't know if it's too late to ask here. I really hope someone will suggest what should I do.

I have one week at Marriott Phuket Beach Club, been using it to exchange via II to stay at Marriott Newport Coast Villas every year. It's hard to book, but managed to get one every year. I was wondering, if DC is good for me, since the week I book is a high season week (early April) while my home resort week is a gold week.

At the moment, my gold week, with a good chance, I get get a week at Marriott Newport Coast on their high season. If I enroll, I will probably not benefit from this because the amount of DC I will get from gold week, will be less compare to number of DC I will need to stay at the other place during high season? I should keep my week?

My gold week from Marriott Phuket = DC2500, they offer 800 DC on top if I enrolled within this year, the enrollment fee is USD595.

I wonder about the amount of week that are deposit into II each year, and the amount of DC (weeks) that are available through Marriott DC programme are equally or which one has more, which would give me more chance of getting the week I want? Anyone know the figures of how many week owner has turn their week into DC?

The benefit I will get is: I will probably borrow DC from future year to cover my additional nights that is more than a week, I usually use 7+5 nights.

As I read the forum, it's said that DC is just another way of exchange, when I enroll, I can still exchange my week via II as a week? If I have DC, I can book a week at my home resort for a week, then deposit to II, then exchange for a week at other place, pretty much the same way I do now?

Thank you very much in advance for your kind advise.

Did they explain that you will also have to pay $185 annual DC dues?
This will include your Interval fees, but along with the $595 enrolment fee the cost benefit of enrolment may well be less easy to justify than for multiple week owners.
Having said this, the $595 fee is an introductory offer for Phuket Beach Club and will inevitably rise in time (we don't know when or by how much, but this compares with other regions where it has risen from $595 to a standard $2395 now!)
If it were me, I probably would not enrol a single Gold Phuket Beach Club week, especially as 2500 DC Points will limit your exchange opportunities (the 800 DC Points they are offering will be a one time usage)
However, if you believe you may want to get into the DC Points programme at some stage, now is definitely the best time to do it.
UPDATE
just checking the Newport Coast Villas DC Points requirements, 2900 DC Points is the absolute minimum required for a week at any time of year, it goes right up to 5675 DC Points for peak, peak weeks - this alone might be decisive for you.

 

[Pomme]

Thank you very much for your suggestion. I assume for a one week owner, it doesn't worth it. I am thinking about buying a little more DC to complete my 12 days trip.

The fee to convert week into DC make people scare of the future, I was wondering whether they will eventually force us to move to DC. But it seems that it is not possible to do that.

 

[bazzap]

Thank you very much for your suggestion. I assume for a one week owner, it doesn't worth it. I am thinking about buying a little more DC to complete my 12 days trip.

The fee to convert week into DC make people scare of the future, I was wondering whether they will eventually force us to move to DC. But it seems that it is not possible to do that.

When you say "buying a little more DC", do you mean in addition to the 2500 DC you would get from enrolling and electing your PBC week or have you already bought some DC?
All I would say about buying some DC Points is
They are expensive, whether buying from MVC or even Resale (for a small number) with all the fees MVC apply
Inventory availability in Asia and Europe with DC Points is very limited, currently anyway, because of the lack of DC Trust ownership and also relatively few enrolled weeks owners actually elect their weeks for DC Points.
This may change for Asia when AP Points and DC Points "come together" later in the year, but to what extent noone really knows?

 

[kds4]

My thought process is slightly different. The rental cost/maintenance fee for DC points is approximately .50 per point.

If they are offering you 800 one-time bonus points for enrolling your week, that is worth about $400 of the $595 they are charging you. So, for the one-time cost of $195 to enroll your week (and the $185 annual fee each year to pay for any exchanges you may make), you can convert your week to 2,500 DC points. Paying $185 annually to be able to convert your week to points in the future may not sound attractive, but doing this will enable you to rent any additional DC points you may need (for around .50 per point) instead of spending big money now in "buying a little more DC points".

For example, maybe you need 3,500 points to do what you want (2,500 for converting your week and 1,000 from somewhere else).

If you are going to buy any additional points from Marriott, you will need to buy at least 1,000 points (if they will even sell you that little) at a cost of at least $13,000 to buy them (plus annual maintenance fees of $500 to keep them).

Instead, because you enrolled your week, you can just rent the 1,000 additional points you need, (and only when you need them) at a potential cost of only $500 to $600. Unless you have a specific goal that can only be met with owning points (like passing them to your kids, or wanting high-level membership benefits) just enrolling your week and renting what you need is the way to go in my opinion. Good luck.

 

[GregT]

Thank you very much for your suggestion. I assume for a one week owner, it doesn't worth it. I am thinking about buying a little more DC to complete my 12 days trip.

The fee to convert week into DC make people scare of the future, I was wondering whether they will eventually force us to move to DC. But it seems that it is not possible to do that.

You can always rent points from other owners to supplement your 2,500 points. Points are available in abundance for $0.50, reducing the need to actually buy points. It may worth it to enroll your single week if you are willing to rent points from others.

Best,

Greg

 

[hangloose]

Are the $80 lock-off fee and $35 reservation change fee both also included at no cost for all enrolled weeks?

 

[bazzap]

Are the $80 lock-off fee and $35 reservation change fee both also included at no cost for all enrolled weeks?

The lock off fee is certainly included.
I have never had need to change a reservation, so someone else will have to respond on that one.

 

[vacationtime1]

The lock off fee is certainly included.
I have never had need to change a reservation, so someone else will have to respond on that one.

Change fee also included; we modified a reservation last week and the rep did not ask for money.

 

[hangloose]

Thanks all! Another plus for enrolled weeks lowering add on fees. Great! Every now and then, I can leverage the savings!

 

[pedro47]

Wow! This thread was started April 2012 and the information is still valuable and current