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[ 2012 ] Marketplace spam again? [Judy Boulay]

Charles Darwin would probably weigh in here if he was still around...

Microsoft researchers have been studying why these "Nigerian scammer" stories get wilder and wilder. The whole point of these ridiculous schemes is to catch the most gullible "marks". Such improbable stories automatically weed out the internet-smart, cautious types who would waste too much of their time. They want to focus on people who are trusting to the nth degree. When they shoot out 10,000 emails, they don't want a response from 10,000 people - they only want the easy targets to respond. (It's actually very clever.)

There are groups of people fighting back by playing along and frustrating the scammers. If these crooks have to spend too much time with people who are on to them, it definitely cuts into their profit. Looks like some tuggers are doing that! Good for you!!! (Just don't deposit their checks!)

Here's an easy to understand explanation of MSFT's white paper from the New Yorker: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blo...an-e-mail-scams-microsoft-research-study.html

I understand and acknowledge that not everyone walking upright is "the sharpest knife in the drawer", but I just can't wrap my head around anyone who is selling something freely and voluntarily agreeing to send money to their buyer. That's just so insanely counter-intuitive that it completely escapes my ability to even begin to comprehend. :confused: :shrug: :confused:
 
Absolutely agree with you, Theo, but these scammers are very successful all around the globe. If you google "Nigerian 419" you'll see loads of websites warning people about how these scams work. Maybe there's a "trust" gene that makes it hard for some people to spot deception? Since money is involved, I think people really WANT to believe these offers are legit. The scammers have scripted the most implausible stories to catch the most vulnerable - to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

And remember, they aren't being asked outright to send money to the scammer, they're just being asked to send "the change" back - isn't that the fair thing to do if someone overpays you? Some people still don't believe that a cashier's check can be a forgery. It's maddening everytime I hear about someone losing a small fortune to one of these scumbags.
 
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Maybe I am a little dumber than you guys - Got Scammed

Judy emailed me about a week I have for on TUG. We dickerred a little about the price and then reached an agreement. I want out of the week I own and would like to buy in Florida.

Thinking that I had an agreement to sell my weeks, I put in a couple bids on Ebay and contacted some of you about your Florida Weeks. Judy advised me that she is sending a cashiers check for enough to cover a deposit and cost for her broker and closing. Sure I would not mind giving cash back on her cashiers check and mailing it to her broker.

I know that when she sends the check to me in the mail it will be a federal crime. Do the authorities care?

When I mail a check to her agent (Cash back on the cashiers check) which of the following would be the best way to express my displeasure: (JK Denise)

1. Send a personal check for $1,000,000 on an account that was closed 10 years ago and say "Just learned I have stage 4 cancer and I am giving my money away to everybody I know"

2. Forward Judy's address to Ted Kaczynski and ask him to put a little Jack in her Box.

3. Return the cashiers check with an apology that I would not want to take advantage of her and sell her my timeshare.

4. Make all future communication with Judy on hand written stationary coverred with a suspicious white substance.

Realizing that 3 out of 4 of these choices could also be a federal crime, I prefer if you simply vote for the number of your choice. For example, say I like #2 and don't say that it would be nice to blow her arms off with a Ted K. special package.
 
Sunandfun83, I'm actually glad that you got "her" to send you a check, and you're on to the scam - and wasting their time. I'm very sorry to hear that you thought you had a sale, and were all set to buy where you wanted. Bummer. :(
 
Follow up info requested...

<snip>...would not mind giving cash back on her cashiers check and mailing it to her broker. <snip>

I asked another "almost-a -Judy-voluntary donor" for this info, but received no reply....

When you get your bogus check, please reveal to us the postmark location of the envelope, as well as the return payee name and address to which the "change" is supposed to be sent. This information will provide some insight into the m.o. details of the scam and will be useful to other prospective (...aahhh) "clients".
 
Judy emailed me about a week I have for on TUG. We dickerred a little about the price and then reached an agreement. I want out of the week I own and would like to buy in Florida.

Thinking that I had an agreement to sell my weeks, I put in a couple bids on Ebay and contacted some of you about your Florida Weeks. Judy advised me that she is sending a cashiers check for enough to cover a deposit and cost for her broker and closing. Sure I would not mind giving cash back on her cashiers check and mailing it to her broker.

I know that when she sends the check to me in the mail it will be a federal crime. Do the authorities care?

When I mail a check to her agent (Cash back on the cashiers check) which of the following would be the best way to express my displeasure: (JK Denise)

1. Send a personal check for $1,000,000 on an account that was closed 10 years ago and say "Just learned I have stage 4 cancer and I am giving my money away to everybody I know"

2. Forward Judy's address to Ted Kaczynski and ask him to put a little Jack in her Box.

3. Return the cashiers check with an apology that I would not want to take advantage of her and sell her my timeshare.

4. Make all future communication with Judy on hand written stationary coverred with a suspicious white substance.

Realizing that 3 out of 4 of these choices could also be a federal crime, I prefer if you simply vote for the number of your choice. For example, say I like #2 and don't say that it would be nice to blow her arms off with a Ted K. special package.
Actually, what you want to do is something that will require some time and effort on "Judy's" part - something that will demands some effort.

I suggest a reply along the following lines:

You brought her check to the bank, but the person who handles your account expressed some concerns, because there have been some cases of fraudulent cashier's checks coming from that institution. And you adviser at the bank suggested that you get some additional information to verify that the check is valid. Then make up some added info that you need that will require a bit of effort to put together; perhaps something to indicate that "she" is who she says she is and some personal references of people who know her or who she has done business with so that your adviser will feel more comfortable about the check.
 
Very true. You want to send them off on a wild goose chase, without disclosing any personal information they can use. So, if they give you a postal address to mail the check back to "Samuel Kaplan", how about posting THAT address here, and we can flood their PO Box with worthless mail that they have to sort through?!?
 
I would engage the bank's help in forwarding the evidence of mail fraud onto the appropriate authorities....have the bank confirm that it's fraudulent, and then get their legal department involved, if at all possible.
 
Postmark

Received check for $3900.00. Postmarked from Salem OR. No return address . Remitter: Judy Boulay
I asked another "almost-a -Judy-voluntary donor" for this info, but received no reply....

When you get your bogus check, please reveal to us the postmark location of the envelope, as well as the return payee name and address to which the "change" is supposed to be sent. This information will provide some insight into the m.o. details of the scam and will be useful to other prospective (...aahhh) "clients".
 
What Bank or Company was the Maker of the Check ?

Posting as many of the variations of he names involved increased the proabability of other scam victims arriving here through a search engine
 
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Lawyers Get Scammed Too!

Scammers Take Aim At Lawyers .


By JENNIFER SMITH-WSJ

Law firms are becoming top prey for email scammers who exploit lawyers' eagerness to take on new clients through the Internet.

Crafting elaborate stories that often involve real companies or properties, con artists say they live abroad and need help collecting money from a debtor or a legal settlement. They ask the lawyers to wire the funds to bank accounts overseas, after taking a cut in fees for their services.


'The check looked very legitimate,' says Gene Goldenziel, a lawyer who prosecutors say was targeted by an alleged email collections scam.
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The settlement checks mailed to lawyers' offices and accompanying documents, such as insurance paperwork, appear to be authentic. Phone numbers and other contact information on the documents lead back to scammers who pose as employees and vouch for their legitimacy, authorities say.

Even after doing due diligence, some lawyers fail to discover the scam. They deposit the check into the firm's trust account—a special account for client funds—subtract their fee, and then wire the balance to an overseas bank account, before the law firm's bank realizes the check is a fake or can stop the wire transfer.

"The way [lawyers] are contacted, the way they received the checks—that's normal for how many law firms operate," said U.S. Postal Inspector Louis Di Rienzo, head of a cross-border mail-fraud team in Harrisburg, Pa. Swindlers know that, he said. "The guys that are doing this, they are the top of the game," he said.

Mr. Di Rienzo estimates that law firms have been bilked out of at least $70 million that way since 2009, when he first began investigating such frauds.

Federal prosecutors allege that nearly half those losses were racked up by one particular scam that will be the focus of a criminal trial expected in the fall in Pennsylvania.

Prosecutors say Emmanuel Ekhator, a Nigerian national, masterminded a scheme that defrauded more than 80 lawyers from small and midsize law firms in the U.S. and Canada of at least $32 million. Mr. Ekhator, whom prosecutors say was living in Canada at the time of the alleged frauds, has pleaded not guilty. His attorney declined to comment.

"What makes this so unusual is that the scheme was so sophisticated that well-respected, established law firms were taken in by the fraudsters," said Christy H. Fawcett, an assistant U.S. Attorney in Harrisburg who is prosecuting the case. The case was investigated by Mr. Di Rienzo's U.S. Postal Inspection Service team, the U.S. Secret Service, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Canadian and Nigerian authorities.

While many online scams target gullible consumers or individuals, in recent years attorneys have become attractive prey. That is in part because they increasingly rely on Internet referrals to draw clients and conduct much of their business via email, lawyers and law-enforcement officials say. And despite repeated warnings from law-enforcement agencies and bar associations about collections scams, some lawyers continue to fall for them.

"People contact me all the time on the website," said Gene Goldenziel, a personal-injury attorney in Scranton whom prosecutors say was targeted by Mr. Ehkator's alleged ring but didn't send it any money. "In hindsight it sounds like you're stupid if you got trapped, but while you're in it, it's very sophisticated."

His encounter, he said, began with an email in January 2010 from a person who claimed to have been injured while working for a Pennsylvania trucking company, according to Mr. Goldenziel and court documents.

Posing as a Vietnamese woman who lived in South Korea, the would-be client asked for help collecting a $400,000 insurance settlement. Mr. Goldenziel could take whatever he wanted off the top and then wire her the rest. Soon a $400,000 cashier's check arrived at his law office. "The check looked very legitimate," Mr. Goldenziel said. "The insurance policy looked very legitimate."

He called the insurance company to verify, using a number the client supplied, then spoke with a person at the bank who was supposedly handling the matter. Prosecutors said the bank call was routed to one of the scammers who posed as a bank employee vouching for the check's validity.

Mr. Goldenziel, who remained suspicious, said he told the client to collect the check at her embassy but the response was an angry note asking for the check back. Soon after, a U.S. postal inspector contacted him to say he had been the target of an Internet scam.

Such schemes can take weeks to pull off. Some scammers set up foreign bank accounts and obtain high-grade counterfeits of cashier's checks from large national banks, while others blast out solicitations tailored for certain practice areas and locations.

"I got one last week—a guy from England saying he had a judgment for some money from a company in Rhode Island and that he would be sending over a check," said William J. Delaney, a Rhode Island lawyer and former president of the state bar association, which sends out email warnings to lawyers each time a new variation sweeps the state.

The attorney collection scams first came to light in 2007 and hit a peak in 2010, according to the Internet Crime Complaint Center. Lawyers have filed nearly 750 fraud complaints, 167 of them since 2011, according to the center, which is a partnership between the FBI and the National White Collar Crime Center, a nonprofit federally funded group.

Law firms that have been duped are sometimes reluctant to admit the fact and may opt to quietly replace the missing money instead of reporting it to the authorities, Mr. Di Rienzo said. "Let's face it," he said. "You don't want your clients hearing that."

Most of the firms named in the complaint against Mr. Ekhator either declined to discuss the matter or didn't respond to requests for comment.

Some lawyers who have been bilked in the past blame the banks for telling them bogus checks from the scammers had "cleared" when they later turned out to be counterfeit.

Milavetz, Gallop & Milavetz, P.A., a personal-injury law firm with offices in Minnesota and Wisconsin that said it was snared by Mr. Ekhator's alleged ring, sued Wells Fargo Bank N.A. in April over its handling of a counterfeit check. The lawsuit said the bank failed to halt a $396,500 wire transfer of client funds to Kowloon, Hong Kong, in 2009—a transfer the firm said was contingent on the check passing muster with the bank.

"Obviously, any attorney would see some red flags—we contacted Wells Fargo to verify the validity of the check," said Robert Milavetz, the law firm's founder. "We're a longtime customer; we relied on them."

Attorneys for Wells Fargo didn't reply to a request for comment.

Write to Jennifer Smith at jennifer.smith@wsj.com
 
True West Credit Union. Austin, TX and Scotsdale, AZ Legitimate Credit Union. Checked website and sent them an e-mail that their Co. was being used to pass fradulent checks.
What Bank or Company was the Maker of the Check ?

Posting as many of the variations of he names involved increased the proabability of other scam victims arriving here through a search engine
 
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And???....More facts, please.

Received check for $3900.00. Postmarked from Salem OR. No return address . Remitter: Judy Boulay

O.K...if you were to send "change" back, presumably a mail address was provided to which to do so? :shrug:

Was the "overpayment change" check supposed to be payable to "Samuel Kaplan" or to some other individual or other business name? :shrug: Please clearly specify.

The more factual detail you can provide here in print, the more you can potentially help unwary others who might be unwisely considering stepping toward (or into) this scammer quagmire --- and who might instead stumble upon this thread in the course of a "search" and get a bit smarter in time to save themselves...
 
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True West Credit Union. Austin, TX and Scotsdale, AZ Legitimate Credit Union. Checked website and sent them an e-mail that their Co. was being used to pass fradulent checks.

Received check for $3900 from TruWest Credit Union. Called them and they acknowledged check was a fraud. Also called Chicago Title Timeshare Transfer Co. which was the supposed employer of Mr. Samuel Kaplan. Of course, there is no such employee. They asked we send any info to their Fraud Alert on their website, and also to government fraud site posted on company website. This has been done.
 
Check received

I have just received a check from Judy that was issued by TruWest Credit Union. It has a blurry/unreadable postmark and a flower stamp with no denomination.
The bank routing number on the bottom of the check matches TruWest's, but that information is available online.
I have not received any information as yet from Judy or Samuel about where to send my check, so have elected to bring this check to my bank first. I will also contact TruWest Credit Union and report the receipt of a bogus check.
 
I also received a check from Judy for $3,900.00 2 days ago. She wants to know if I recieved it. I have not answered her. I went to the local police department and they told me to just answer and tell her I changed my mind and I will return her check if she will send me her address. My check was postmarked from Salem OR. I e-mailed TruWest Credit Union Fraud Dept.
I was also advised from the police to check my credit report from time to time.
 
Samuel Kaplan, Andrew Frechette and Judy Boulay

A warning to all who receive any correspondence from anyone wanting to buy your timeshares by the name of Andrew Frechette, Samuel Kaplan or Judy Boulay. This is confirmed and verified fraudulent activity that they are committing. The checks that everyone receives, have the same check numbers, and account numbers. I confirmed this with True West Credit Union, and they have already received 7 other like checks. Next do not EVER send money via Money gram to Cairo Egypt, and when the crooks realized I would not send money to Cairo, I was given another bank name, account holder and bank account to send the money to at Great Western Bank. I have already contacted that bank and they are looking into this. I filed a complaint at www.IC3.gov, and contacted my local Postal Inspector. My background in in the banking industry working Financial Crimes and previous police officer. What made the red flags go off was as we all have been told to cash the check and send money back. That never happens in a legitimate real estate transaction. Also the phone number provided returns to an out of the USA location. Please pass this along. I have also sent correspondence to Red Week where our timeshares are listed. The old saying if it sounds to good to be true it is probably a SCAM.
 
Answer from Judy

I received an e-mail asking if I received the check. I told her my bank was checking it out because there have been many fraudulent cashiers checks. I suggested she send me her address and I would mail the check back to her.
Reply: "I do not have time for more delays. Please shred my check. I have no wish to continue."
I hope this is the end of Judy Boulay
 
DON'T shred that bogus check!

<snip> Please shred my check. I have no wish to continue." <snip>

It is admittedly highly unlikely that the mythical (and now obviously skittish) "Judy Boulay" will be caught,
but the bogus check itself, now firmly in hand, constitutes a form of documentary evidence in and of itself.

Experienced investigators "in the know" (...several options have been clearly and specifically identified in previous posts) might very well want to see that check. It might be a high quality photocopy of a stolen blank original (...if so, the credit union may be able to backtrack when / where the blank original first disappeared). It might instead be just a completely counterfeit instrument, which is of interest to other competent investigators with authority and jurisdiction (this does not include your local P.D., by the way). You can't possibly know or determine these fraud details on your own --- but I assure you from personal knowledge and first hand experience that there are experts who most assuredly can. So... HELP them!
 
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I received an e-mail asking if I received the check. I told her my bank was checking it out because there have been many fraudulent cashiers checks. I suggested she send me her address and I would mail the check back to her.
Reply: "I do not have time for more delays. Please shred my check. I have no wish to continue."
I hope this is the end of Judy Boulay





DON'T SHRED THE EVIDENCE.... Take it to your local Postal Inspector or Police Department to support your claim of attempted Larceny by Check.




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I think I hear an echo, an echo...

DON'T SHRED THE EVIDENCE.... Take it to your local Postal Inspector or Police Department to support your claim of attempted Larceny by Check.

Interesting. Your previous (stunningly bad) advice was to deposit the check and wait for it to bounce! :eek:

Have you had a miraculous epiphany since that previous (...ahem) "advice", or are you now just boosting your post count by simply echoing, echoing better advice already posted above by others? :shrug: :confused: :shrug:
 
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Interesting. Your previous (stunningly bad) advice was to deposit the check and wait for it to bounce! :eek:

Have you had a miraculous epiphany since that previous (...ahem) "advice", or are you now just boosting your post count by simply echoing, echoing better advice already posted above by others? :shrug: :confused: :shrug:




Please read my posts carefully (my advice remains unchanged).

"Attempted" Grand Larceny versus Grand Larceny (if check is cashed/bounce)




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Nope...

"Attempted" Grand Larceny versus Grand Larceny (if check is cashed/bounce)

Perhaps you have only a limited background or familiarity with the nuances of criminal investigation and / or the U.S. legal system, in which I have spent the past several decades, but in order to charge anyone with anything in any jurisdiction, you must first actually identify the individual to be charged. That info may or may not come as a surprise revelation to you.

A completely fictitious name provided in Internet email, originating from God-only-knows-where (...at this time), ain't exactly the makings of a "defendant". :rolleyes:
 
Joudy Boulay

I actually received a check drawn on TurWest Credit Union and called them They said that what I have is a check that was issued by them but negotiated several months ago and somehow copied. They have had a number of calls on this same check in the past few weeks. The check is always for $3900.00. TUGGERS provide an important service by exposing these scam artists.
 
Perhaps you have only a limited background or familiarity with the nuances of criminal investigation and / or the U.S. legal system, in which I have spent the past several decades, but in order to charge anyone with anything in any jurisdiction, you must first actually identify the individual to be charged. That info may or may not come as a surprise revelation to you.

A completely fictitious name provided in Internet email, originating from God-only-knows-where (...at this time), ain't exactly the makings of a "defendant". :rolleyes:





This is all true. Thanks for posting!




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