[ 2012 ] Fairmont / Sunchaser / Northwynd official thread with lawsuit info!

[fairmontlovers]

You are right Spark1.. I did a quick search and it seems like the problems started before the insolvency of Fairmont. There's appears to be a wake of destruction that's for sure. There's also a connection between Northwyn and Fairmont and it's people that's more than just a company picking up the assets a bankrupt company - I smell corruption!!

I recently spoke to a sales person that was working in Sunchaser's sales office in Fairmont during the takeover of Fairmont by Northwynd. He told me they were doing well, profitable, making their sales targets, then one day they came in and laid everyone off and closed the sales center.
My question is why? Would it not be in Northwynd's best interest to continue selling off the inventory they had? Selling the timeshares that had turned delinquent? Does the agreement not state that Northwynd would be responsible to pay the maintenance fees of any unsold inventory? So why would they shut the sales center down?

About the same time many Sunchaser timeshares started to appear on Ebay for the sum of $1.00. I wonder who placed them there? Was this a plan?

 

[greyskies]

The Danielle Smith is on iTunes as well.

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[RippedOff]

Has anyone emailed or contacted the Minister of Justice in Alberta? I'm hoping we'll get a mistrial. This can't be our Canadian legal system that allows innocent people to be scammed like this.

ministryofjustice@gov.ab.ca

 

[Tacoma]

The names mentioned by Danielle Smith were

Angela Pitt(s) UCP might bring it up in the leg next week if we can find out when we could go up is anyone one of her constituents? If they called that would be great because we could plan to go up. My MLA has not responded to me. They are a member of the NDP.

Kathleen Ganley Minister of Justice AB

Stephanie McLean - minister for service AB

Honourable Judge Young -apparently not impressed with the number of emails etc.

Let's keep up the pressure with those we are gaining traction on. Danielle said she had received around 50 letters last week. Let's double that number this week. It's not hard to write a letter explaining how this has affected you personally even if you don't know all of the steps you should mention at least the interest rate, the maintenance fees for all the years we have been fighting in the courts with the interest fees, maybe the original cost and the cost now etc. One personal letter also goes farther than a bulk mailing list. I have tried to slightly modify all of my letters. We are gaining some traction we do need to keep going.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

For anyone who missed Danielle Smith's coverage of this issue again today.

Try this link - today's date, 10 am, click the arrow on the left to start it, the timeshare issue starts at about 8:21 minutes in
http://store.corusradio.com/audio-vault/avWidget/...

I did listen - but for others you do need to set time to 10 am
I first enjoyed the Mary Queen of Scots " update " from the midnight hour .

 

[Tanny13]

For those who are agreeing to this settlement, take note...
1. If you do not pay the entire amount by Feb. 28/18, you have signed a judgement for 162%, plus interest from Nov/17, which they can then come after you for.
2. Once you sign it, even if a different truth comes out at a later date, you are bound to it.
3. Northmont is not giving up its rights and remedies under the VIA.
4. You are gagged and cannot sue anyone.

 

[Petus@18]

We received a reply from an MP suggesting to contact Wendy Booth who lives in Fairmont and is the local government Director for the area. From his perspective this unfortunate issue is a civil dispute and a class-action lawsuit by the investors would be the order of the day, rather than trying for a political resolution.
...........

Believe me, I understand that this is a civil matter; however, how can any of us continue defending our interests and rights if no lawyer wants to represent us?

Shouldn't the government be able to appoint someone that could investigate this case? There are so many issues in this case RE Northmont's fraud and corruption. Also, the legal malpractice from a lawyer representing over 1000 clients, that we feel it should be looked at by both federal and provincial governments. The property is in BC, but Northmont's offices are all located in Alberta.

We will be contacting her, if you wish to send her a note as well, here is an address: ubcm@ubcm.ca

 

[Lostmyshirt]

Has anyone reported them to the Better Business Bureau ? At the very least they deserve 1800 complaints.

 

[mmchili]

Draft From Northmont Resort Prop Regarding Maintenance Fees
https://www.justanswer.com/canada-l...t-resort-prop-regarding-maintenance-fees.html

 

[greyskies]

For those who are agreeing to this settlement, take note...
1. If you do not pay the entire amount by Feb. 28/18, you have signed a judgement for 162%, plus interest from Nov/17, which they can then come after you for.
2. Once you sign it, even if a different truth comes out at a later date, you are bound to it.
3. Northmont is not giving up its rights and remedies under the VIA.
4. You are gagged and cannot sue anyone.

Regarding point 1. Is the payment date February 15th or February 28th?

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[Lostmyshirt]

https://www.secretflight.org/northwynd.ca

 

[mmchili]

Hearing for the class-action against Sunchaser Villas begins Posted on: January 20, 2016
https://www.timeshareconsumerassoci...class-action-against-sunchaser-villas-begins/

 

[Tanny13]

Regarding point 1. Is the payment date February 15th or February 28th?

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Sorry Feb. 15 to MG, Feb. 28 to Northmont

 

[KGB_527]

This is very old news. I was just talking today to the court clerk after faxing my letter to Judge Young, and she told me there are no hearings scheduled.
Does anyone know, what is the process with these letters she receives? Does she collect them, and put them into the bottom of the file and ...........???
Does she reply? What happens to it. Can someone enlighten me please? Thanks.
ooops this was reply to msg #3063

 

[Petus@18]

For those who are agreeing to this settlement, take note...
1. If you do not pay the entire amount by Feb. 28/18, you have signed a judgement for 162%, plus interest from Nov/17, which they can then come after you for.
2. Once you sign it, even if a different truth comes out at a later date, you are bound to it.
3. Northmont is not giving up its rights and remedies under the VIA.
4. You are gagged and cannot sue anyone.

How can this be a good thing for anyone to sign? If we can't find another lawyer then we should represent ourselves. Maybe we should start getting that information on how to proceed without a lawyer??

 

[Bewildered]

Ultimate Betrayal is so correct on all points.

Although it is important that people continue to write to the various politicians and Law Societies, the one who needs to know if you are not being represented by your representative in court is the Judge. This should not have to happen, a legal representative should be representing their clients in the most favorable, honest way; however if that is not happening what other recourse do you have??

We have been silenced for too long while our representative has misrepresented us to the courts and the courts to us.
Find your voice and speak up, but please be courteous - this is NOT the Judge's fault.

If he’s going back to the table on the same issue how can he not be our attorney? And if he goes back and negotiates a settlement is he once again going to not give us the exact figures and sign on the dotted line for us and expect us to open wide and swallow?? He has to give us the facts the figures and a reasonable time frame to decide what to do. Certainly the pressure to pay now is coming from NM not MG.

 

[Bewildered]

I also talked to Judge Youngs office today the Judge is reviewing things but doesn’t know when this will be complete. I explained the urgency, the lady said she can only recommend complaining to both Alberta and BC law societies about what has occurred with M.G. and Norton Rose. Please people continue the pressure, surprised the Judges office is actually taking calls and send her your faxes. Plus phone the Law Societies. We are making headway!!!!
Being on the Danielle Smith show in Calgary twice in a week is impressive and I think this scam is starting to be uncovered. But short term are only hope is for the Judge to do something before our deadline in February. Anybody have news from the Facebook group? Are they participating in our letter and phone campaign? I would hope so.

 

[truthr]

I also talked to Judge Youngs office today the Judge is reviewing things but doesn’t know when this will be complete. I explained the urgency, the lady said she can only recommend complaining to both Alberta and BC law societies about what has occurred with M.G. and Norton Rose. Please people continue the pressure, surprised the Judges office is actually taking calls and send her your faxes. Plus phone the Law Societies. We are making headway!!!!
Being on the Danielle Smith show in Calgary twice in a week is impressive and I think this scam is starting to be uncovered. But short term are only hope is for the Judge to do something before our deadline in February. Anybody have news from the Facebook group? Are they participating in our letter and phone campaign? I would hope so.

Thanks for the update on your phone call.
I have been encouraging people from the "secret" facebook group to participate here on Tugbbs and I believe they are. And very much so with the letter and phoning campaigns.

 

[#deceived]

This is from MG in final statement:

Do not send any of the Settlement Documents to Northmont. We are sending them to Northmont on your behalf and are not providing them with any of your personal information


Huh? If we are supposedly ‘timeshare owners’ with Northmont… surely they have our personal information already!?
Why would we pay MG?
So he could take off with all our money, and we would still owe Northmont? Why wouldn’t we pay Northmont directly?
Just another mystery in this scam!

 

[FairSun]

This is from MG in final statement:

Do not send any of the Settlement Documents to Northmont. We are sending them to Northmont on your behalf and are not providing them with any of your personal information


Huh? If we are supposedly ‘timeshare owners’ with Northmont… surely they have our personal information already!?
Why would we pay MG?
So he could take off with all our money, and we would still owe Northmont? Why wouldn’t we pay Northmont directly?
Just another mystery in this scam!

NM does not have my new address nor my phone # and I want to keep it that way.

 

[#deceived]

NM does not have my new address nor my phone # and I want to keep it that way.

But How do that you own something with them if they don’t have your info?

 

[FairSun]

For those who are agreeing to this settlement, take note...
1. If you do not pay the entire amount by Feb. 28/18, you have signed a judgement for 162%, plus interest from Nov/17, which they can then come after you for.
2. Once you sign it, even if a different truth comes out at a later date, you are bound to it.
3. Northmont is not giving up its rights and remedies under the VIA.
4. You are gagged and cannot sue anyone.

Seems Northmont will file for 162% of whatever the current dollar amount is, the 2018 maintenance fee included and interest, and not release from the contract though.

 

[FairSun]

But How do that you own something with them if they don’t have your info?

Moved over the years

 

[Petus@18]

We didn't receive any of the documents regarding the poor settlement because we opted out on Dec 29. We also sent Geldert a message prohibiting to disclose to any third party, any of the updated contact information we provided to him when the SIF was signed. Some of you are talking about a gag order and relinquishing you rights in the future; are these part of the settlement document or a separate one?. As for us, we wiil be facing paying the highest interest rate ever recorded in Canada, I think?? This is unreal and we are physically ill thanks to a corrupted company and the malpractice of a "lawyer" Well, we will keep trying until the end and praying for a lifeline.

 

[Spark1]

I recently spoke to a sales person that was working in Sunchaser's sales office in Fairmont during the takeover of Fairmont by Northwynd. He told me they were doing well, profitable, making their sales targets, then one day they came in and laid everyone off and closed the sales center.
My question is why? Would it not be in Northwynd's best interest to continue selling off the inventory they had? Selling the timeshares that had turned delinquent? Does the agreement not state that Northwynd would be responsible to pay the maintenance fees of any unsold inventory? So why would they shut the sales center down?

About the same time many Sunchaser timeshares started to appear on Ebay for the sum of $1.00. I wonder who placed them there? Was this a plan?

Remember every one do not ask the RCMP tell them you are joining the anti-fraud department it is your right to report fraud scam and senior abuse and white Collar Crime. Service Alberta have sent their files to the RCMP. I was working with the RCMP Today and I will get Service Alberta’s file number and if they do not give to me I will have the RCMP Do it for me. I need this so I can set up a file close to my home .I want to work as close as I can with the RCMP. They are the only friends that we have left. I will be talking with Darren Thomas tomorrow and I want to be guaranteed all the files that are sent to Service Alberta are sent to that file that Service Alberta has. I am done for today we start at 4:30AM and these been frustrating days just like for all of us but let’s keep up the fight.