[2011] Has anyone worked with HP Consultants or Resort TIme Unlimited?

[AcePureSD]

I got a call last Saturday (12/17) from a company that said they would help me out of my timeshare. I was visited today by a Jean Hamilton, Regional Manager & Solutions Specialist, from HP Consultants. She said that her company could "liquidate" my two timeshares. I had two options - one being joining their RTU group on the Gold Level for $11,995 (after I signed over my two timehares to them).

Anyway - just checking to see if anyone else has been contacted or worked with this company.

 

[Karen G]

I had two options - one being joining their RTU group on the Gold Level for $11,995 (after I signed over my two timehares to them).

What is your second option? You do have a third option that you should consider. Don't pay them anything.

I know nothing of this company, but paying about $12,000 sounds way out of line for anything to do with a timeshare these days.

 

[theo]

Color me dubious...

I got a call last Saturday (12/17) from a company that said they would help me out of my timeshare. I was visited today by a Jean Hamilton, Regional Manager & Solutions Specialist, from HP Consultants. She said that her company could "liquidate" my two timeshares. I had two options - one being joining their RTU group on the Gold Level for $11,995 (after I signed over my two timehares to them).

In the spirit of the Christmas season, I'll assume that you are not just a shill / first time poster attempting to gain publicity and exposure (and Google search candidacy) for your own (heretofore completely unknown) company by naming and then coyly posting a "question" here about it...

No one who cold-calls you "out of the blue" is legitimate and the only thing these parasites are going to "help you out of" is a chunk of your savings. I sincerely hope that that you are not even considering spending $12k to get out of a timeshare ownership. That's absurd, at best --- larceny, at worst.

You don't describe the available "option 2", but Karen's suggested "option 3" is almost certainly best ---
pay these parasites NOTHING!

 

[AcePureSD]

Hi Karen,

Thank you for your being frank. I would be skeptical also, having been burned for $695 a few years ago by a timehsare "listing" agency.

I have already checked out HP Consultants and RTU and found little if no (RTU) information, feedback, reviews, etc.

You are right about the third option of not giving them anything, which is exactly what I am leaning towards.

It truly sucks that there are people out there that look to take advantage of those who have already been taken advantage of (defined screwed).

I'll post information about my next encounter, which I am gathering more ammunition for - this forum being part of that cache.

Thank you for your response.

Stephen from San Diego Ca (Rancho Bernardo)

 

[theo]

Proceed with caution...

<snip>... having been burned for $695 a few years ago by a timehsare "listing" agency. <snip> ...there are people out there that look to take advantage of those who have already been taken advantage of..)

No disrespect or offense intended, but the odds are very good that your prior unfortunate "upfront fee" experience earned you a place on someone's "sucker list" -- which may be exactly how you came to now be contacted "out of the blue". Such "sucker lists" (along with detailed "communication scripts") have been discovered and seized during raids of the offices of assorted upfront fee scammers in Florida, for example.

Parasites of that slimy ilk (understandably) move around from one scam company to another and often take client / sucker list info with them. In other instances, it's actually most or all of the very same people from the "old" outfit, now merely sporting a brand new name and a clean slate. The fact that you can find no information at all about either HP Consultants or Resort Time Unlimited certainly makes me suspicious. Presumably, "sucker lists" also get sold and thereby circulated even further within those murky circles...

In any event, it's good that you're apparently adopting the wise approach of "once burned, twice shy".

P.S. My initial impression from your "first time post" was that you were likely a "shill" for one or the other (or both) of the companies you named. Please accept my apology if I was mistaken in that initial suspicion.

 

[AcePureSD]

Hi Theo,

Please understand - no offense was taken. As I stated, your response is refreshing and understandable. I take it many of us have been burned by the scammers out there.

I have done more due diligence and am finding NOTHING on the web about HP Consultants or RTU.

Jean Hamilton, the person who came to my house, stated in an email that the firm is rated A by the BBB in San Diego - WRONG!!! - I checked the BBB SD website and they have an F rating!!!

I would truly love to get out of my Montecristo Estates timeshare. I paid $40,000 for the first 2 weeks of October in the odd years and would be willing to sell for $5 - yep FIVE BUCKS!!!

Thanks, again, for your responses.

 

[Karen G]

would be willing to sell for $5 - yep FIVE BUCKS!!!

You can post in the Bargain Deals forum if you truly want to give it away.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Good for you! I am glad you are telling this company to pound sand. It's annoying to get calls from companies that you never contacted. All of these are scams.

 

[freddie01]

Please note that freddie is a shill - he register from his work email - hpconsultants.com - DeniseM

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I read the harsh words regarding this HP Consultants you wrote. I went to the BBB to check on the assault you were putting on them only to find out they did and do have a "A" rating! What is this nonsense you wrote about? Its a little scary to read what you people write! You sit back and butcher companies without having the correct information, that's is not right. Can you imagine if someone like you sat in a forum like this and ridiculed you and your company when you knew it was wrong? I'm all for the protection of consumer rights, and I believe forums like this are good when used properly, but when you see people calling other people parasites, Parasites of that slimy ilk, without even looking into the company, that's just pure laziness and meanness!

I have seen the BBB rate a lot of great companies poorly and a lot of poor companies great. What really matters is how does the company perform? Are you sitting face to face with them or is it a call center trying to get you to pay money over the phone without the willingness of writing you a guarantee or at least giving you the opportunity to go to their office and ask for referrals or references? These are questions you should be asking yourself and advise you should be sharing. I guess I just hate to see such quick judgment on any companies without any background knowledge. I own a small company and I know that it was very difficult getting it started, not to mention how hard it is to keep running! You do your very best to give the best services and work long hours to make it your own. It would be great to open a new business and be able to show you've been open for 10 years, but it just doesn't work that way. Its especially hard when people are getting poor advise from uneducated bloggers beating up your business without any real knowledge and you can't do anything about it!.

It really looked like Ace was trying to get some real answer's and help and all he got was someone who has absolutely no clue or knowledge about the situation, providing nothing but worthless advise. Here is an idea for Theo, just stay out of the conversation if you do not really know what your talking about. It's OK not to know about somethings Theo, you do not always need to spout off just to get some air time. You certainly come across as that type of blogger. This is just my humble opinion. Good luck Ace, I hope you have success getting rid of that well thought out investment!

 

[theo]

"First Time Freddie" graces us with alleged wisdom...

Sorry Freddie, but to paraphrase William Shakespeare, "Methinks thou dost protest (...way) too much".

It seems to me that the OP Ace, who has reported on a direct, first hand, personal encounter with a heretofore completely unknown entity truly has all of the credibility possible or necessary here.
You however, not so much.....to say the very least.

Your unconvincing attempt to distract from the real facts, by conducting a feeble ad hominem attack on someone else, doesn't alter the real facts one bit. Don't like my input? Ignore it or disprove it --- pick one. As far as I'm concerned, a scammer exposed is just another scammer exposed. No apologies. Period, amen.

'Bye bye, Freddie....

 

[mrpickle]

Hey Freddie is right!

The BBB rating is A-
Although the business only got it's rating on Dec 31 2011


It will take some time to get all the way down to an F!

http://www.bbb.org/sandiego/busines.../hp-consultants-llc-in-carlsbad-ca-172001694/

 

[DeniseM]

Freddie, the genius, registered for TUG with his work email:

"XXXX"@hpconsultants.com

:rofl:

Buh Bye Freddie!

 

[spencersmama]

Very timely! I just heard on the news this morning a woman was convicted of fraud. She would cold call timeshare owners promising to sell their timeshares for a small "refundable" upfront fee. She didn't sell the timeshares or refund the money, but managed to scam thousands of people out of over 30 MILLION DOLLARS over the last 3 or 4 years!!!! So sad that people take advantage of others like this. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is! Don't throw good money after bad.

 

[AcePureSD]

Sorry I haven't been back

Hi everyone,

WOW - glad to read all the supportive responses - EXCEPT FREDDIE you scammer!

I hope everyone is well - EXCEPT FREDDIE

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I just went there this past October with 4 friends and we had a wonderful time.

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Thanks,
Ace

 

[presley]

A 3 bedroom 2 week unit just went for $99.00 on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...w3Vx1g%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_6486wt_1139

 

[Flyguy1950]

Freddie "EXPOSED"

It is amazing how quickly a scammer/shill and most likely a principal in HPConsultants can be exposed byTug BBS contributors. Even though he has no moral compass at least he has an A- rating to take with him-small comfort.

Bruce

 

[theo]

Maybe not, by now..

It is amazing how quickly a scammer/shill and most likely a principal in HPConsultants can be exposed byTug BBS contributors. Even though he has no moral compass at least he has an A- rating to take with him-small comfort.

"Forgettable Freddie" made his oh-so-brief appearance here nearly four months ago now (when his "operation" was likely quite new), so he may have had enough time since then to run his BBB rating downward considerably. Then again, he's not worth even the 30 seconds it would take to check...

 

[AGE]

Hi there, just saw this posting and I would like to say that I actually used HP Consultants, they helped me with my timeshare situation as promised. I started the process with them Apr 2011 and they completed their part of the contract.

 

[DeniseM]

Hi there, just saw this posting

No you didn't - this post is 6 mos. old - you had to search for it so you could post this very unlikely "endorsement."

 

[timeos2]

And I just found the slice of toast I accidentally burned last Thanksgiving and now its perfect & still warm!

Hey, its more likely than anyone having a good experience with one if these groups!

 

[RX8]

Legit companies don't need their employees to deceive readers by posing as customers or third parties. We already know that has happened with Freddie01.

 

[theo]

More nonsense. Is Freddie BACK, reincarnated and renamed?...

Hi there, just saw this posting and I would like to say that I actually used HP Consultants, they helped me with my timeshare situation as promised. I started the process with them Apr 2011 and they completed their part of the contract.

Please don't insult our intelligence...

First time guest posters appearing on TUG out of a clear blue sky to suddenly sing enthusiastic and unsolicited praises and tell vague, unsubstantiated "success stories" about an obscure entity, heretofore completely unknown to thousands of experienced timeshare owners here, just ain't credible. Sorry.

If you are just another HP Consultants employee / shill, I hope that you're smarter than "Freddie" was and have at least registered here with an IP address other than that of HP Consultants' own office. If you're going to pretend to be someone else, it would be better to not use your company email address...

 

[LightofTruth]

Jean Hamilton & HP Consultants are SCAMMERS!

My ailing mother who is not of sound mind consulted with Jean Hamilton of HP Consultants. She wanted to get rid of her timeshare. I found Jean slinking around my mother's condo and asked her to leave and to not contact my mother again. It turns out, that my mother paid this woman at least $12,000 on her credit card for what is described as an upgrade to a gold account. My mother paid around $15,000 for her timeshare in 2004 and has never used it. Now, she is out additional $$ and has just about run out of her life savings. She does not know what she will do and is not sick enough for the state to intervene. Jean Hamilton is a heartless and evil woman who preys on older victims, gets them to sign agreements that she fraudulently misrepresents and scams them out of their money. AVOID JEAN HAMILTON AND HP CONSULTANTS AT ALL COSTS. We are looking into legal options and would like to hear from anyone who has had similar experiences with this woman and her group. Thanks!

 

[theo]

No surprise, but counter-action MAY be possible...

My ailing mother who is not of sound mind consulted with Jean Hamilton of HP Consultants. She wanted to get rid of her timeshare. I found Jean slinking around my mother's condo and asked her to leave and to not contact my mother again. It turns out, that my mother paid this woman at least $12,000 on her credit card for what is described as an upgrade to a gold account. My mother paid around $15,000 for her timeshare in 2004 and has never used it. Now, she is out additional $$ and has just about run out of her life savings. She does not know what she will do and is not sick enough for the state to intervene. Jean Hamilton is a heartless and evil woman who preys on older victims, gets them to sign agreements that she fraudulently misrepresents and scams them out of their money. AVOID JEAN HAMILTON AND HP CONSULTANTS AT ALL COSTS. We are looking into legal options and would like to hear from anyone who has had similar experiences with this woman and her group. Thanks!

Although it may not prove to be productive, I would also suggest making the effort to personally contact the local Police Department and ask to arrange to meet and speak with a detective who works fraud cases.

It is relatively rare for these types of parasitic scammers to actually have and show a discernible face and have a known physical location. The fact that this one apparently does may very well be worth trying to parlay into some investigative (and hopefully prosecutorial) effort by the appropriate authorities.
You can't / won't know however without some effort on your part to have a direct conversation with a detective of the Police Department of jurisdiction (i.e., wherever it is that your mother lives).

You are wise to seek to have the transactions voided and seek to obtain full refunds through the (...lengthy and expensive) legal process if your mother is not of sound mind, but I would still recommend also turning the heat up with (...very direct and free) Police involvement, if you can succeed in enlisting same.

Good luck. Please feel free to let us know if / how your efforts yield results.

 

[Aleca]

My mother has an appointment today with this Jean Hamilton

My ailing mother who is not of sound mind consulted with Jean Hamilton of HP Consultants. She wanted to get rid of her timeshare. I found Jean slinking around my mother's condo and asked her to leave and to not contact my mother again. It turns out, that my mother paid this woman at least $12,000 on her credit card for what is described as an upgrade to a gold account. My mother paid around $15,000 for her timeshare in 2004 and has never used it. Now, she is out additional $$ and has just about run out of her life savings. She does not know what she will do and is not sick enough for the state to intervene. Jean Hamilton is a heartless and evil woman who preys on older victims, gets them to sign agreements that she fraudulently misrepresents and scams them out of their money. AVOID JEAN HAMILTON AND HP CONSULTANTS AT ALL COSTS. We are looking into legal options and would like to hear from anyone who has had similar experiences with this woman and her group. Thanks!

Thank you for posting this , My mother had an appointment today with this Jean Hamilton. She met with her on Saturday, and was going to meet with her today. After reading this, while doing some research about this HP Consultant Inc. Group, I called her to have her cancel her meeting. This confirms what I told her, "Like they say, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is."

Again thank you.