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[2010] Drowning in clutter

ME TO!!!!!!!!!! Pat H we are the same.
I pick something up and say "Oh I can bring that to the Thrift Shop" but I never drive to the store to try to sell it. The bags sit on the floor waiting to be brought/taken out of the house. If I get the bags to the car the bags sit in the car....

Unbelievable I found a friend like me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sure I would love to come to your tag sale. I LOVE a bargain-again a problem. Then I can bring more stuff into the house-guess I can't go.

:cheer: :cheer:
 
I think many of us are in the same boat regarding clutter. As a first step I am having a two weekend garage sale. I can not handle doing it myself and have found 2 friends who are running the garage sale for me. I offered them a respectable percentage of the amount brought in. They are going to set it up, tag and price everything and be there. I just have to bring everything out into the garage and of course I will be there during the sale most of the time. I won't have to price things. I think that is where we clutterers get into trouble. We feel everything we own has value or that we will use it "someday." Thanks for the website suggestion. I'll check it out too.
My parents were real hoarders. I must tackle their house but feel I can't do it until my own house is in order. DH and I would like to move to a retirement location in about 2 years but certainly can't take all this stuff with us. Thanks to TUG and all we have learned about timesharing we now know there is a whole lot of traveling we want to do.
 
Best wishes with your sale -- I wanted to pass on my experience and give you one more option for the future, as you work through this challenge. We too had a garage sale to clear out some of our own clutter and the clutter that had gathered from various deceased parents' households over the year. We had help, but it was lots of work and physical work, just getting the thing set up. The decisions eventually were not too hard, since we were energized and committed to trying hard to clear out.

But, after all of that, we made only a little money, and were exhausted at the end of the day. We did schedule a charity truck to pick up the excess - that had mixed success -- came too early the day of the sale, was nice enough to come back a bit later; but we still had to have to them come back another day while we packed up again all of the leftovers on the sale tables -- they just weren't ready for the truck yet.

So the pulling out of the items to the driveway, repacking of the unsold items for the truck, the dirt and muscle strain, the modest sales, the cost of renting tables ( low, but we still had a lot of tables), making signs for street advertising, all the other tasks: we decided this was our last sale -- that the money coming in was not worth the physical toll. Any future clearouts will go directly to the charity truck, happily.

But I guess you could say it was a good experience because it taught us never to undertake it again. If you can learn from this, my hope for you and others is that if you skip the garage sale, do so without any guilt or regret -- just get the stuff out of the house, now. You will have accomplished your most important goal. Unless you are very lucky or you don't mind all of the steps and work that I have described, it may be a disappointing effort. Keep focused on what is most important - toss and clear!

People have since complimented our cleared out living room and tv room -- we just hadn't noticed the boxes and piles over the years -- so, we had a good result and hope that you do too.


I think many of us are in the same boat regarding clutter. As a first step I am having a two weekend garage sale. I can not handle doing it myself and have found 2 friends who are running the garage sale for me. I offered them a respectable percentage of the amount brought in. They are going to set it up, tag and price everything and be there. I just have to bring everything out into the garage and of course I will be there during the sale most of the time. I won't have to price things. I think that is where we clutterers get into trouble. We feel everything we own has value or that we will use it "someday." Thanks for the website suggestion. I'll check it out too.
My parents were real hoarders. I must tackle their house but feel I can't do it until my own house is in order. DH and I would like to move to a retirement location in about 2 years but certainly can't take all this stuff with us. Thanks to TUG and all we have learned about timesharing we now know there is a whole lot of traveling we want to do.
 
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Stax Of Wax. ( Pyles Of Vinyl. )

OK, inspired by all the current & recent TUG-BBS anti-clutter enthusiasm, I assembled this morning just over 5½ feet of 33⅓ rpm LP records that are now properly bagged & ready for delivery to the intake loading dock of a big charitable thrift store not far from here.

The stack contains some great tunes. But the collection had not been looked at much less listened to for so long that I no longer could remember what-all was in it.

Even acknowledging the slim chance I might be listening to any of the records any time soon, if ever, I still pulled from the pyle about 10-12 inches of LPs of recorded material that would be difficult or impossible to find on any other source in the unlikely event I did want to listen to it again some day -- stuff that Dr. Demento doesn't even have.

That's just the tip of the iceberg -- LPs that were sitting around in milk-crates, etc. I will need more inspiration to start going through the 30+ feet of LPs that are neatly stored in cabinets upstairs in the music room. At least those are out of sight & thus (mostly) out of mind.

The minivan right now is loaded with old wind-up & kerosene-powered computers from the basement Museum Of Obsolete Technology -- you know, non-functional & semi-functional leftovers from the days of PC & XT & AT & I don't know what-all, including a Commodore 64, complete with peripherals. That's all going to Computer Recycling Day at my son's place of work tomorrow. When the minivan comes back empty, we'll be loading it up with the Stax Of Wax & Pyles Of Vinyl selected for removal, plus a bunch of stuff The Chief Of Staff currently feels moved to get out of here.

Full Disclosure: (And this point is telling.) A few of the records now destined for charity giveaway (not many, just 2 or 3) were brand-new -- never played, never taken out of the package, never opened, still sealed in the original shrink-wrap. They're out of here anyway. And good riddance. So it goes.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
 
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Yeah Alan, way to go.

I think moving every other year takes care of clutter.

I know if I died, my boys would throw out 99% of stuff. They wouldn't sell it, or even get it together to donate. So if I want to be in control, I have to do it my way.

So much of my clutter isn't even usable stuff, its papers, magazines, file folders, pet stuff, pencils etc laying around. Piles of DVD cases or
CD cases , just real trash (no dirt, I have a cleaning person EO week).
 
I, too, get stuff together in bags to give away, and then don't get it out the door. In fact, yesterday, the mailwoman came with a registered item that needed a signature, and I had to kick the bags and boxes of ready-to-give-away OUT of the WAY to get the front door open!! (Our front door is on the side of the house, so we typically go in and out through the garage...)

Yikes! Yep, I have WAY too much clutter, and while I keep striving to clear it up, it doesn't seem to get much better. Sigh...

OK - those boxes/bags are going in my car right now! (Then I have to get them out, as I carpool) Baby steps...:hi: :hi:
 
Great job!!!! So many of you seem to have enthusiam to clean up.
I NEED THIS ENTHUSIASM!!!!!! but how to get it is the problem.......

I had a tag sale two years ago, told my DD she could have all money from it and nothing was coming back in the house. Took car loads to Good Will.. Now/After there is still too much.................


YIKES
I would rather avoid.....


:cheer: :cheer:

How much would it cost to hire someone to come in to help organzie?? Any ideas????
 
The attic is just about cleaned out. My best friend came over the last 2 nights to help me clean out. If he hadn't I'd still be twiddling my thumbs. Everything that is not part of the garage sale is now bagged for garbage. Won't be able to put it all out at once cause it would fill up the garbage truck. I can't believe the things that were up there. Now to get ready for the mover on Thursday and the sale on Fri-Sun.
 
It has made me curious..

If you are a Hoarder/Clutterer/Pack Rat................

Do you have an over weight issue????

Just wondering if there is a link between the two.


:hysterical: Not sure if this is a serious question or not, but it made me laugh!
 
:hysterical: Not sure if this is a serious question or not, but it made me laugh!

I recall an old 'Clean House' or Oprah show (not sure which) where they said clutter and being heavyweight can sometimes be related. Not that I agree with it, just that I heard something similar.
 
I recall an old 'Clean House' or Oprah show (not sure which) where they said clutter and being heavyweight can sometimes be related. Not that I agree with it, just that I heard something similar.

LOL... Sure, but how come nobody is answering the question? Who wants to start?
 
have a feeling this is tough subject
especially for someone with a hoarding/clutter issue
very common but many do not know how to fix the problem
people who do not have the problem do NOT understand
weight and stuff may not have anything to do with each other
but if stuff is created by collecting items to be happy then maybe eating and being over weight is also a result of unhappiness

Some people on the hoarder shows are overweight and some are NOT

The Hoarding show of animals is gross...Can not understand how they can love like that. Yet their hearts are pure with the love of animals and they believe they are helping them.

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
 
have a feeling this is tough subject
especially for someone with a hoarding/clutter issue
very common but many do not know how to fix the problem
..........

I know how to fix my clutter problem, but I love DH too much to divorce him :hysterical: .

Seriously, though, we are in the process of decluttering the garage. Purchased some shelving at Costco and have been working on decluttering a few hours each weekend for the last two. A big trash haul is scheduled for our pickup early next week, and the garage will be decluttered this weekend! I just kept hounding him until he gave in...

Ingrid
 
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How much would it cost to hire someone to come in to help organzie?? Any ideas????
I don't know what it would cost--it depends on the cost of living in your area, etc. You could call around for price quotes and services offered. That doesn't commit you to doing it but it will give you information you can consider.

Question: are you only wanting someone to organize your belongings or do you want someone who will pare them down?

The advantage of having someone else do it is that they are not emotionally attached to your belongings so it is easier to "see" it and let it go. However, you have to be willing to take the advice and let it go.

My MIL once asked me to help her with her masses of amassed messes. Trouble is, she couldn't let go of most of it. She had four identical (ugly, outdated) coats. I suggested she keep one and get rid of the other three. No, she had to have all four because each one had some sort of sentiment attached. This went on and on for each item. In my view, she wasn't interested in getting rid of stuff, she just wanted attention, etc. I finally got so irritated with her manipulating, whining and wheedling that I left and wouldn't go back for months.

So, decide what your goals really are. If it is a clean, uncluttered and organized house, then start with one closet or drawer. Clean it out, organize it. Then keep it that way. Don't allow anything to be placed in it that doesn't belong there. After you have had success with that, work up to getting one room clean and organized. Make that your sanctuary and don't allow anything to clutter or defile it. Consider how you feel when you are in your sanctuary. Do you feel differently there than in other areas of your house? Ponder that.

Some people feel right at home with clutter and some feel uneasy, unsettled.
 
I know how to fix my clutter problem, but I love DH too much to divorce him :hysterical: .

Seriously, though, we are in the process of decluttering the garage. Purchased some shelving at Costco and have been working on decluttering a few hours each weekend for the last two. A big trash haul is scheduled for our pickup early next week, and the garage will be decluttered this weekend! I just kept hounding him until he gave in...

Ingrid

I think the new shelving or similar tools are such a great motivation. Really forces you to re-think what you put up there on the new shelf.

Today was a kinda declutter day, as I took a few days' vacation and we tackled the walk-in pantry. Hubby has a nice garden every year, but then we (he mostly) cans the produce and we are running out of room for the canned foods! I'm sure many would love to have that problem.
 
We need to stop posting, reading, dreaming about our TS vacations and clean up our clutter!:)

Maybe we go on so many timeshare vacations to get away from our clutter, if only for a week or two. Does anyone find the clutter starting to appear in the timeshare unit? :D
 
I am the Moderator of my local FreeCycle site and if you don't want all the individual emails just set the option for the DIGEST (25 emails in one) or set it for Special Notices. That way you will be able to post items you want to get rid of and answer an offer. You can't do that if you are just looking at the site and not signed up. We have 2,000 members of my group and it is amazing what people give away for free!!! Love it.
 
Neat

Great HGTV for those us who are not hoarders, but organizationally-challenged.

http://www.neattv.com/home.html


Between her and The Container Store, I am much more organized than last year.

I am an Air Force "brat" and there's a theory/link between this experience and the inability to let things go due to frequent moves. I'm sure this applies to others' situations as well. I did a lot of reading on this as I wanted to understand my sentimental attachment to things.

ETA: Also, there's a theory that many of those who lived through the Great Depression of the
'30s and their offspring (aka Baby Boomers) have this trait to some degree.
 
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Thinking, planning, take some action. Keep telling myself..Last night a one in the morining I posted six or seven outdoor type items on FreeCycle. Already people emailed for most of them...

The house if difficult because it is too far gone to just clean it up. I have boxes of paper to go through. Need to file or shred them...Too many collectibles. Making weekend cleaning difficult. Bathroom is the best room in the house. Small and not really cluttered and clean. So why can I not do this for the rest of the home? Something in the mind is OFF. OCD, packrat...afraid the item may be needed. Not sure.


Over whelming too!!!:shrug: :shrug:
 
Over whelming too!!!:shrug: :shrug:
You can only eat an elephant one bite at a time. Certainly, it is overwhelming to clean/organize the house all at once. Even one room at once can be too much. But, you can start with one drawer or one table top. You can start with 30 minutes a day (or more if you have the time). You can take one step.

Is there a reason it has to be done soon? If not, just take it 30 minutes at a time and spend as much time as you need. Start with the areas that are of most importance to you. Is it your entryway or living room (ie public areas)? Is it your kitchen or bedroom? It really doesn't matter where you start. Just start. You'll gain momentum as you go along.

Don't set deadlines if that is too distressing for you. Saying, "I am going to have the living room clean by the end of the week" may be too much. So don't go there if it is. Just say, "I will spend 30 minutes each day attending to the living room until I am satisfied with it--even if it takes the next two years."

You don't have to figure out or address what got you into this cluttered situation before you act. That is just an excuse and will delay your start. And what you don't start, you cannot finish. As you start and do a little each day, your devils will come to light and manifest themselves. IOW, you'll figure out the "whys" when you are "doing."
 
I think the new shelving or similar tools are such a great motivation. Really forces you to re-think what you put up there on the new shelf.

They certainly are. We put up the shelving late Saturday afternoon and I planned to wait until the following weekend to start the decluttering process, but those empty shelves looked too inviting so I spent the next 2 hours decluttering :cheer: . Hubby had to fix his own dinner!

Ingrid
 
You can only eat an elephant one bite at a time. Certainly, it is overwhelming to clean/organize the house all at once. Even one room at once can be too much. But, you can start with one drawer or one table top. You can start with 30 minutes a day (or more if you have the time). You can take one step.

Is there a reason it has to be done soon? If not, just take it 30 minutes at a time and spend as much time as you need. Start with the areas that are of most importance to you. Is it your entryway or living room (ie public areas)? Is it your kitchen or bedroom? It really doesn't matter where you start. Just start. You'll gain momentum as you go along.

Don't set deadlines if that is too distressing for you. Saying, "I am going to have the living room clean by the end of the week" may be too much. So don't go there if it is. Just say, "I will spend 30 minutes each day attending to the living room until I am satisfied with it--even if it takes the next two years."

You don't have to figure out or address what got you into this cluttered situation before you act. That is just an excuse and will delay your start. And what you don't start, you cannot finish. As you start and do a little each day, your devils will come to light and manifest themselves. IOW, you'll figure out the "whys" when you are "doing."

I totally agree. My problem is I start, then don't continue. About a year ago I got so frustrated with all the junk in our master bedroom closet, I started the cleanup planning to spend an hour or two at the task. I finished at 2a.m. It's still cluttered and needs more work, but every time I walk into that closet I'm so proud of my accomplishment so far.

After we get the garage done this weekend, I'm going to start by spending at least 30minutes each evening decluttering my paperwork. I have already purchased bankers boxes, manila folders, labels, etc. and have mapped out my plan of attack. I can't wait to get started (and finish this time!).

Ingrid
 
I am having a big yard sale this weekend. The first day is always the worst because it takes so long to get set up. When we starting taking boxes out of the attic, I forgot that we had a lot of stuff from my MIL's house. Found a couple of pieces of valuable depression glass. Each day I am giving more stuff away free but I'm afraid it's not going to make a dent. I was planning on moving Monday but I think it will be Tuesday before I get out of here.
 
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