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[ 2008 ] SVO eBay Sales

So only about a 95% loss buying from SVO...
{ouch}
 
vacationtime1 said:
Closed for $7,100. If the MF's really are $1,270 as advertised, this platinum week will provide some reasonably priced ski weeks for someone.
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I agree. That's an unbelievable deal. They were going for 50-100% more than that on ebay when I bought mine less than 3 years ago. I wonder if this auction is an anomaly.

The correct maintenance is actually LOWER than stated. I paid 1162 for each of my units in 2010. (It looks like the auction counted the SVN fee in the maintenance.)

Of course it gets even better if the buyer is going to retro the unit since the maintenance cost per staroption and starpoint are the best in the SVO system.
 
K2Quick said:
Lakeside Terrace 2 BR Even Years $2,515

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260594381561&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

This fits my theory that the last one closed lower (around $1,800 for an annual) because it was poorly described in the listing. Only two bidders on this one, though. If the second hadn't have come in at the last second, this one would have gone for $499.
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LY gets only 129.8K SOs if retroed and doesn't lockoff for II depsoits, so that probably explains some of the price difference relative to SMV.
 
DanCali said:
LY gets only 129.8K SOs if retroed and doesn't lockoff for II depsoits, so that probably explains some of the price difference relative to SMV.
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True but the maintenance fees at LT are a lot less than SMV.
 
K2Quick said:
Lakeside Terrace 2 BR Even Years $2,515

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260594381561&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

This fits my theory that the last one closed lower (around $1,800 for an annual) because it was poorly described in the listing. Only two bidders on this one, though. If the second hadn't have come in at the last second, this one would have gone for $499.
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It wouldn't have gone for $499 - I put in an offer quite a bit higher than that with 5 seconds left but by the time my offer was received I got a message that the current bid was $2,515 which was way over what I was willing to pay.
 
Weimaraner said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/WESTIN-ST-JOHN-...md=ViewItem&pt=Timeshares&hash=item519263eb8b

any idea why this didn't even make the $1.00 starting bid? Says it's Staroptions Platinum Plus at Westin St. John week 13. I'm not a Starwood owner (maybe someday), but looks like a good deal. Are the MFs scaring people away? Is it the seller? unit size? Just wondering what to be on the lookout for.
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My guess is that it is the "seller".
Recent reports here have not been good.
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83698

You should be aware that many ebay sellers with a decent track record engage in similar activity. Their track record is good until it turns. As it will, given their method of operation. Just be careful.
 
Fredm said:
My guess is that it is the "seller".
Recent reports here have not been good.
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83698

You should be aware that many ebay sellers with a decent track record engage in similar activity. Their track record is good until it turns. As it will, given their method of operation. Just be careful.
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This has nothing to do with the seller or their track record (which, outside of TUG, doesn't look bad at all)

Seeing zero bids doesn't mean there were no bids if the seller ends the auction early for some reason (like mislisted item, or selling on a different platform etc). I've had event tickets listed on both Stubhub and ebay and then cancelled one if they sold on the other... it happens all the time. None of these sites forces you to be exclusive...

Click on the "0 bids" to se the history.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=350348372875
 
It was ended early - there was a bid higher than $1000. I contacted the seller about the auction inquiring about a potential problem with the auction(week # - inconsistancy) when there was a bid in the $100s - they wrote that it was for a specific week that was week 17 and not week 13 (as in the auction) - after my inquiry - the bid immediately went over $1000 - then soon after the auction was listed as 'ended' with a bid of $1.
strange, but this redweeks4less afterall.

btw - be aware that the redweeks4less thread is from 2008.
 
DanCali said:
This has nothing to do with the seller or their track record (which, outside of TUG, doesn't look bad at all)

Seeing zero bids doesn't mean there were no bids if the seller ends the auction early for some reason (like mislisted item, or selling on a different platform etc). I've had event tickets listed on both Stubhub and ebay and then cancelled one if they sold on the other... it happens all the time. None of these sites forces you to be exclusive...

Click on the "0 bids" to se the history.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=350348372875
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My guess was based on their BBB rating of D- and their "escrow" company's BBB rating of "F".

As I said, track record can be good until it isn't.

Just a guess, and a note of caution. Weimaraner asked for issues to be aware of.
 
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Fredm said:
My guess was based on their BBB rating of D- and their "escrow" company's BBB rating of "F".

As I said, track record can be good until it isn't.

Just a guess, and a note of caution. Weimaraner asked for issues to be aware of.
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I don't disagree that their feedback is less than stellar both on TUG and with the BBB. But not all eBay bidders are tuggers and most don't go the check the BBB before they bid; they probably take a look at the 97% positive rating (inflated by selling baseball cards) with almost 600 auctions and assume it'll be fine.

Personally, I wouldn't deal with them (well - maybe if I saw a real steal) but I've tried in the past to see if their auctions generate lower selling prices than some more reputable sellers and couldn't really see a noticeable difference. My conclusion was that most people just don't know or don't care.

These people are in business because they fill a void in the market. They practices are questionable - maybe it will catch up with them at some point... but they'll probably just change the name of the business and start over, or be replaced by someone else...
 
Fredm said:
Right. The last two posts were yesterday, and the day before yesterday.
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I meant the thread in Buying was bought back from 2008.

The specifics on the WSJ eBay was that I contacted seller (RW4L) and asked for the specific deeded week/ck-in day (not for me...) and they responded via eBay almost immediately. The days they responded with was week 17 and not week 13. I responded that their week was incorrect. Within the hour of my return response (auction still had many days to go ) the bid went up $1000+, then auction ended with a $1 bid (at least from what I saw). I assumed it was cancelled.

I would not deal with RW4L unless it was too good to pass up (very limited list of SVO VOIs - IMO) - and I had everything checked out 100% before sending money.
 
DanCali said:
These people are in business because they fill a void in the market. They practices are questionable - maybe it will catch up with them at some point... but they'll probably just change the name of the business and start over, or be replaced by someone else...
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I agree with you.

ebay now requires rental auctions to prove that they own the week, and have a valid reservation for what is being rented (or have owner authorization). I assume the exchange companies have applied pressure on ebay.

If ebay would do this for sale auctions, it would at least go part way to controlling some of the illegal activity. Not the PCC variety, but the outright trolling for buyers without legal control of the auctioned inventory.
 
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I am in Maui now. Have Timeshare listing for WKORV (south) Ocean FRONT DELUXE for $25,000. Is that a good price?????
 
duke said:
I am in Maui now. Have Timeshare listing for WKORV (south) Ocean FRONT DELUXE for $25,000. Is that a good price?????
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The MF is too high: Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Resort Villas (2 bdm. Dlx) - $3,076.69 :eek:
 
The MFs suck (they were less than $2K not long ago), but...

As Tugger Syed - who sells these (Tuggers FredM and James1975 also sell these) - once told me... WKORV OF Dlx tends to sell to a certain segment of TSers who are specifically looking for what WKORV OF offers over others.

DeniseM is not one of these types. DnR and Westin5Star are... (I am speaking for W5S here based on past posts...) I think SDKath is also - she just hasn't had that realization yet :p

If you are the type - then $25K is fair.
 
Dave - I am TOTALLY the ocean front type! I own two ocean front weeks on Kauai that I paid less than $1,500 for and the MF is still less than $1,000! :D


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I meant OF at WKORV (didn't I say that?) - I know you own OF in Kauai.
 
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