[2008] Club Land'Or

[ljwhit]

I was thinking of exchanging into Club Land'Or on Paradise Island but know the "extra" fees are quite high. I e-mailed them today and asked about the fees just to be sure since the RCI info is stating only $25 per person per night. Well, the other 2 fees $16-18 - service and assessment and $6.50 - gratuities (these are per person per night) are being temporary suspended. So the only fees supposedly is the $25. Just thought someone might be interested.

 

[caribbean]

I highly suggest that you get that in writing before you accept the exchange and make sure that the letter states it covers the time period when you plan on being there. CYA

 

[JeffBrown]

Selling a Club Land'or

Ok, this is probably strange as I'm in the business of selling timeshares but I'm asking because I'm stumped.

How do I give away/sell/dispose of 1.5 weeks (1 annual 1 eoy) at Club Land'or when you can buy them off of TUG classifieds for $1 with maintenance fees for 2008 and the transfer fee of $900 being paid by the seller? And there aren't any takers and there are no history of Club Land'or sales in the TUG database.

This resort will not be accepted by Donation companies or PCC companies because of the excessive transfer fee and even though it is a membership (Right to Use) ownership you can't get out of them by simply saying, keep my money and I don't want to own it any more.

I've obviously tried ebay but even there people won't bid on it for 1 cent...so, has anybody out there had any experience with this resort that might help?

I really would appreciate any insight.

 

[Meme]

Club Land'Or

I too would be interested in getting rid of this Timeshare. I am living on retirement pensions and have physical problems so do not forsee going any time soon. The problems with this resort of extra assessments and fees when visiting make it very expensive and difficult to even give away. I have heard that they are very aggressive persuing members that do not pay. I have been interested in finding and contacting other members about their experiences but don't know how.

 

[escargot]

I'm not familiar with this property, but know that the same problem is going on with other timeshare resorts in the Caribbean.

Maintenance fees getting higher, special assessments and increased air fares are forcing many people to want to sell.

Ebay sales are rock bottom for units that were purchased (RTU) for $20-30k and it's very frustrating for owners that are now trying to recoup at least a small portion of what they paid.

 

[JeffW]

Does anyone know what the plans for the resort are? When I was at Atlantis last October, we had breakfast at Land 'Or, and it looked like there were plans to replace the complex with a ~15 floor highrise ('Maxim' I seem to remember). Were there definite plans to change the resort, or were there drying to drum up enough interest (and new funding) to make it happen?

Jeff

 

[Meme]

Club land'or

I have heard that the new development at the resort is on hold, possible due to the economy. Not 100% sure though.

 

[Banker]

I don't know what is happening with Club land'Or.....I doubt that a new resort will be developed anytime soon...I know that town planning did not approve the last plans that they had presented...their website has something on it right now about the Miss Universe pagent coming to the Atlantis at the end of August. My husband and I have been going to Club Land'Or every October since about 1996. (13 years or so). I own a resort in Daytona Shores, Florida since the late 80's and I have NEVER had to pay any special assessments. My husband himself owns at Club Land'Or( I am not on this contract) and he always has special assessments!!! We still go because we like it but last Oct. only 22 units were being used!(out of 72).and they have had many of their employees there for many years. We even were married there onsite in 2004. Our friends join us, from Long Island, from New Jersey and from the Pittsburgh area. We live just outside of Atlanta. One couple called us because they went ahead and already made their reservations. Another couple are not going this year and we are on the fence. I lost my job after 12 years with the same company just back March 2nd. Because of that, I do not know when I will find another job. I might have to change my screenname here(lol). When will the assessments end????

 

[pointsjunkie]

do you get to use the atlantis?

 

[gmarine]

do you get to use the atlantis?

No, this resort does not have access to Atlantis amenities.

 

[gannab]

Club Land Or

The Fees Are Terrible And Be Aware That Other Than The Casino You Cannot Use The Atlantis Activities......we Loved Club Land Or Before They Changed All This...good Luck...its Very Small And No Activities Or Pool...

 

[JeffW]

...Other Than The Casino You Cannot Use The Atlantis Activities...

I'm not sure I'd word it like that. There are numerous Atlantis activities open to the public: casino, shopping stores, restaurants, aquarium (separate fee). I think even the movies are available (they're free, I've never seen any admittence checking).

They there are other activites (pretty much anything outside (beach, slides, etc) that you need an Atlantis ID bracelet to gain access to. You can get that via:

- staying at an Atlantis hotels
- staying at Harborside timeshare
- staying at Comfort Inn hotel (only non-Atlantis one with usage priveleges)
- paying for it

The restaurant at Land 'Or is very good (and VERY reasonable), and they have some nice views from the properly. Also they appear to have a decent amount of parking spaces (relative to an otherwise small resort). However the rooms on the inside don't look particularly impressive.

From what I've heard, the resort is sort of stuck. Their best asset is their location, which Atlantis I heard would like, but apparently won't offer the money Land 'Or thinks they want. But Land 'Or also doesn't seem to want to spend the money necessary to rehab / upgrade the units (if they even can - they look like converted motel units). It wouldn't surprise me if among the owners / board members, opinions are split among:

a. do nothing
b. rehab current resort
c. tear down and build a new resort
d. sell to Atlantis

An absence of an overwhelming majority probably leaves (a) as the ongoing (non)action.

Jeff
Jeff

 

[tbenton]

Using Atlantis

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[Banker]

My husband and I will be at Club Land'Or from the 9th to the 16th of October. When I get back I can update everyone on the status of building and the fees. This will be our 12th year there as owners, we go the same week every October. We meet up each year with our friends from PA and NJ. Anyone with other questions, list them here.

 

[JeffW]

Like others have mentioned, I'd be curious to hear the status of their hi-rise replacement resort. Sort of assuming in this economy it's not happening anything soon, just wondering though if it's: still one; suspended; cancelled.

Also, you probably know, but breakfast at their restaurant I think is one of the best deals around. Very good food, fancy decor, great view, for not a lot of money.

Jeff

 

[tbenton]

Yes let us know whats up at Land'Or

Banker,

I hope you get some new updates. We also go the same time every year in November and have met up with same people for over 25 years. Have lost some of them but we still have a good crowd. We have friends going right after you get home. I live one hour from Land'Or HQ and I swear sometimes I want to drive down there and have a sit in until someone tells me the truth. I personally think that Mr Kerzner at Atlantis has a lot to do with why the rebuild has not started. We (the Holts) would not sell to him on more than one attempt and the first plan for the new club had it higher than Atlantis and he would not stand for it. Last I heard he had backed down and was even going to put a satellite casino at Land'Or.

Here is what I want to know:
1. Are they going to rebuild or just renovate? Its time to tell us the darn truth and stop jerking us around. They never publish anything and most of us find out by the rumor mill or ask the sales force down there. Too much secrecy from owners. Can't even sell a week at a time with the condition the place is these days. We are used to it but a first timer would not be thrilled.
2. We were told that the 2008 special assessment was to balance their budget and 2007 assessment would be used for lots of renovation if the tear down/rebuild continued to be delayed. I want to know what they did with all that money because we saw NOTHING done last year at all.

Thanks,

Terri

 

[Banker]

I leave this coming Friday for Club land'Or..I will take all questions with me and will see what I can find out...here goes nothing, lol! Investigator Sue to the rescue!

 

[tbenton]

Banker,

Did you go to Land'Or as planned? Anxious to hear what you have to say about any rebuild plans OR at least some remodeling????

Terri

 

[Banker]

Well, I had no luck in finding out much...they say all plans are now on hold because of the economy. The week in October that we were there, had about 20 units occupied.....at least tho, this year the activities went on as scheduled!! Last year when we were there just about all of the planned activities were cancelled. When we got in on Friday, I told Tony that they better do Rose island since the prior year it was cancelled. I promised him that I would participate in ALL games while on Rose Island.. the night before the excursion they still were not sure about the excursion happening because not enough people signed up and it would be cancelled, not enough people meant they would lose money because it costs a good bit to put it on...well, the next morning Tony said it was on, they would be using a small catamaran this time. Well, as promised, I did everything, egg toss, egg in a spoon, covered goggle race, etc.....This year the catamaran came on the beach side which is what I liked....Brian the photographer only took 5 couples pics and then was off to another event...Oh, this year, they gave each unit 2 coupons per day for a free continental breakfast, I had never seen that done before...the first day they did it in the courtyard, the other days they did it in the restaurant. They cancelled the champagne buffet breakfast on the last Friday but they still sold breakfast. They still gave my husband and I free champagne.
All in all, it was a lot of fun.....they did get a new head of housekeeping, I forget his name, he was very nice and told me to call on him if we had problems in the room, but we did not...he came from the Atlantis he told me.

 

[tbenton]

Thanks Banker! My friends just got back and echoed much of what you said but said something about another building permit next year and some 'special' packages they are offering for members to extend their time. Not sure if I posted this before but Land D'Or HQ told another friend of mine that they had completely renovated 20 units but my friend who was just there said she only saw some cosmetic changes.

Today is the day we usually leavefor our two weeks so I am very sad after over 2.5 decades of going same time every year. My husband was very cruel this morning and woke me up and told me the airport van was outside. This will be the first Thanksgiving I have been home since 1981.

You mentioned a new head housekeeper? I am very curious about that because our former unit housekeeper Pauline who has become a very dear friend was made head housekeeper a few years ago and my friend said she was still there when they went just after you did. What else can you tell me about the new one you met?

 

[Banker]

TBenton....this guy was something like supervisor of housekeeping, he did not do any housekeeping himself. He was telling me that they are going to start having pool towels in the rooms instead of going to that little room and buzzing the bell. I wish I could remember his name. I do not remember our housekeepers name but when she saw me she said welcome back, you've put on some weight, haven't you? I have, but I laughed it off, but that was a tad rude, lol!!...this past year my husband paid our annual fee by August 31st so that got us either an extra week with no additional fees or one VIP package, which includes Rose island, 2 dinners, etc....so we got one free one of those and paid for the other. but we also have either one or two of those free weeks with no additional fees to use at some point in time. I did not see any renovated rooms. and I did tell you that they now include free continental brreakfast...so that was nice.

 

[swsc16]

Hello...
How much are the fees now? Is it still $25/person per day?

Thanks!

 

[tta]

Club Land'Or

Hello...
How much are the fees now? Is it still $25/person per day?

Thanks!

Club Land'Or is a nice little resort with a very nice marina view. We bought 23 weeks back in 1995 but only went there once due to so many other fees to just stay there 1 week plus airfare. We were there in 2002 (yes, it has been awhile) and we paid $12/p/night. They raised to $25 but it had come back down to $12/p/night as they collected additional fee from its members to offset the difference. They are offering a lump sum maintenance fee for the rest of the available weeks. We are told that we will not be paying the special assessment fee and 7% increase of the maint fee annually. Anyone from Club Land'Or member has any comment?

 

[DeniseM]

Please note that the questions you answered was asked in November 2009 - when you use the search function, please make a note of the date before you respond.

 

[tbenton]

Lump sum mtce fees?

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