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[2006] Hey Guys...anyone having prostate problems?/Merged

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Getting My Money's Worth On Those Lab Tests.

Oh goody. I can hardly wait.
I blew an 11 on PSA retest -- up from 3.9 in January.

That gets me an appointment tomorrow with the urologist.

It's always something.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 
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Right Hymnal. Wrong Page.

In the classic hymn "Crown Him with many Crowns", one of the lines in the first verse is "Let Angels prostrate fall". I can never hear that phrase without thinking "Let angels' prostates fall". I just can't help it.
I think the prostatic angels are featured in a different hymn -- All Hail The Power Of Jesus' Name (not that there's anything wrong with Crown Him With Many Crowns.)

( Ineffably Sublime, No? )

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Good luck with everything. Hubby was just told on Friday, his 64th birthday he has lymphoma. He goes in Monday for biopsy to determine what type so they will know what type of treatment he will need. He is freaking out as he has never had any kind of health problem until now. The only symtoms he has is swelling in the pelvic & Scrotum area. They did CT scan and it showed the lymph glands were swollen and the Oncologist said it is lymphoma that sometimes there are no symtoms. They told us that lymphoma is one of the most treatable and curable of all cancers so we are holding on to that for now. Please keep him in your prayers.

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Steve, you have a strange and wonderful mind! :hysterical:

In the classic hymn "Crown Him with many Crowns", one of the lines in the first verse is "Let Angels prostrate fall". I can never hear that phrase without thinking "Let angels' prostates fall". I just can't help it.
 

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Alan, if it's true that reading this thread inspired you to get your PSA checked, then another big "Hooray" for Tug.
I wish you the best . Jean

I blew an 11 on PSA retest -- up from 3.9 in January.

That gets me an appointment tomorrow with the urologist.

It's always something.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

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This is a good thread. It may have saved a few lives. At least it made several go get checked.
 

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I have been purchasing and using thousands of dollars worth of vitamins and supplements every year from the Life Extension Foundation (LEF) in Florida. They have been in existence for over 40 years and are a very reputable company. You can see their history and credentials at their web site: www.lef.org

I do not have any financial or other connection with this company and do not receive any compensation for referring people to them. I am just a very satisfied customer. I receive many differnt health related newsletters and listen to health-related nationally syndicated radio talk shows on a regular basis (e.g. Dr. Ronald Hoffman, Dr. Ash, Dr. Vagnini, the Willner Window). They are very reputable companies/doctors based mainly in New York City, near where I live. The information provided by the Life Extension Foundation is in tune with what these doctors discuss and recommend.

My husband, brother-in-law, and many of our male friends and co-workers (age 45 to 88) have used LEF prostate formula for years and not one of them has had any prostate health issues to date. The price of the LEF products is the same or lower than most similar products sold in health food stores and major chains such as The Vitamin Shoppe and GNC. I trust the quality and purity of the LEF products completely. They do a great of research and update their products often based upon new findings from around the world. In Europe, where most countries have socialized medicine, large amounts of money are spent on research about prescrition medicines and natural alternatives.

Here's info from their web site and member handbook:

"The prostate gland is located just below the urinary bladder. The base or top of the prostate is intimately connected to the urinary bladder sphincter, or valve. The urethra, or channel for voiding of urine, passes through the center of the prostate. The apex or lower end of the prostate is connected to the penis.

The prostate of a baby boy is about the size of a pea. By age 21-30, the normal male will have a prostate gland that weighs 20 plus or minus 6 grams, which remains constant unless benign prostatic hypertrophy begins.1 Nearly 60% of men between the ages of 40 and 59 already suffer from an enlarging prostate, and at 80 years of age, approximately 80% of men will have an enlarged prostate gland.

A huge percentage of men over age 50 suffer from prostate-induced discomforts. The Ultra Natural Prostate Formula contains the most scientifically substantiated nutrients to help protect the prostate gland and maintain its healthy function.*

Recently added to the formulas are standardized lignans from flax and the Norway spruce trees. These lignans convert to enterolactones in the intestine that are then absorbed into the bloodstream where they provide significant biological effects. Enterolactones have demonstrated anti-estrogen and anti-DHT effects that are of particular importance for the aging prostate gland.

The eight other active ingredients in Ultra Natural Prostate Formula are:

5-LOXIN® boswellia extract. Published studies show that normal aging and poor diet cause levels of a dangerous enzyme (5-lipoxygenase) to increase, which can affect prostate cells. 5-LOXIN® is a patented extract from the boswellia plant that has been shown to suppress 5-lipoxygenase and other pro-inflammatory factors.

Nettle root extract (Urtica dioica). In aging men, too much testosterone is converted to estrogen. Prostate cells are sensitive to estrogen’s growth stimulatory effects. Nettle rood helps protect prostate cells against the excess estrogen levels.

Saw palmetto extract. A number of normal biological events in aging men affect prostate function and structure. Saw palmetto has been shown to interfere with DHT activity in the prostate, inhibit the alpha-adrenergic receptor inhibitor (to support normal urinary flow) and help control inflammatory actions in the prostate gland.

Pygeum. Normal aging results in levels of certain prostaglandins increasing in the prostate gland. Pygeum africanum extract helps suppress these prostaglandins, keeping the prostate gland placid and promoting prostate comfort.

Beta-sitosterol. The most biologically active constituent of pygeum is beta-sitosterol. It is more cost effective to obtain beta-sitosterol from other plant sources for inclusion in a prostate support formula.

Cernitin®. This European pollen extract has been shown to relax smooth muscle tone of the urethra, counteract DHT, and help regulate inflammatory reactions.

Boron. This mineral helps protect bones, and has been shown to slow elevation of PSA, most probably by protecting against protein-degrading enzymes in the prostate gland.

Lycopene. This carotenoid most commonly associated with tomato sauce helps maintain healthy DNA gene function in prostate cells.

Here's what their current prostate formula contains:

Ultra Natural Prostate with 5-Loxin® and Standardized Lignans
60 softgels
Serving Size 2 softgels
Servings Per Container 30 (about $28. for a one month supply)
Take two softgels daily divided between morning and evening, with or without food, or as recommended by a healthcare practitioner.

Amount Per Serving

Saw Palmetto (Serenoa repens) (berries) CO2 extract 320 mg
[std to 85%-95% free fatty acids and sterols (272 mg)]

Cernitin® Flower Pollen extract (Secale cereale L.) 252 mg

5-Loxin® (Boswellia serrata) extract (gum resin) [std. to 70 mg

Acetyl-11-keto-ß-boswellic acid (AKBA) minimum 30% (21 mg)]

Stinging nettle extract (Urtica dioica) (root) 240 mg

Pygeum (Pygeum africanum) extract (bark) 100 mg
[std. to 11.7% sterols as beta-sitosterol (11.7 mg)]

Lycopene (from tomato extract) 10 mg

Phytosterol Complex [std. to 59% free total sterols 678 mg
(400 mg) and 26.6% free beta-sitosterol (180 mg)]

Proprietary Enterolactone Precursors Blend
20.15 mg contains
HMRlignan™ Norway spruce (Picea abies)
lignan extract (knot wood) [std. to 90% Hydroxymatairesinol potassium acetate complex];
ActiFlax™ Flax Lignan (Linum Usitatissimum L.) extract (seed) [std. to 40% Secoisolariciresinol diglucoside]

Boron (from boron citrate, glycinate, and aspartate)
3 mg

Rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis) extract
800 mcg

Other ingredients: gelatin, glycerine, pumpkin seed oil, water, lecithin, beeswax.

Contains soybeans. This product contains NO milk, egg, fish, peanuts, crustacean shellfish, tree nuts, wheat, yeast, gluten, corn, or rice. Contains NO artificial sweeteners, flavors, colors, or preservatives.


5-Loxin® is a registered trademark of P.L. Thomas & Co., Inc. U.S. patents pending.
ActiFlax™ is a trademark of Pharma Science Nutrients, Inc., all rights reserved
HMRlignan™ is a trademark used under sublicense from Linnea S.A.




Warnings

All Contents Copyright © 1995-2008 Life Extension Foundation All rights reserved.

These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. The information provided on this site is for informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for advice from your physician or other health care professional or any information contained on or in any product label or packaging. You should not use the information on this site for diagnosis or treatment of any health problem or for prescription of any medication or other treatment. You should consult with a healthcare professional before starting any diet, exercise or supplementation program, before taking any medication, or if you have or suspect you might have a health problem. You should not stop taking any medication without first consulting your physician.
 

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Best Wishes For Good Health.

How are things going down there in Kentucky?
More to the point, how's it going down there with your prostate ?

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

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I blew an 11 on PSA retest -- up from 3.9 in January.

That gets me an appointment tomorrow with the urologist.


ALAN - I applaud your sense of urgency. Even though Prostate Cancer is usually slow growing, moving on it quickly is the way to go. Good Luck!!

GEORGE
 

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Kentucky is, like many other states, having financial problems, exacerbated by the House being Democrat controlled and the Senate Republican controlled, resulting in a large degree of gridlock in solving problems, both financial and humanitarian.
:crash:


Great to see you post again, Melvin. How are things going down there in Kentucky?

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O.K.

Last month's annual physical gave a 2.9 PSA reading.
A year ago biopsy report was clear. Thus far have dodged the bullet.
Will be 73 on the 25th and have never been in a hospital (not even when I was born).
:D

More to the point, how's it going down there with your prostate ?

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

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Good Going. Whatever You're Doing, Keep It Up.

Last month's annual physical gave a 2.9 PSA reading.
Whoa ! Sounds like positive news.

I'd pay big bux to get mine down to 2.9 -- & come to think of it, I am paying big bux (well, me & Medicare & Blue Cross, but it still adds up to big bux).

I am pretty sure I have some treatment coming up in the very near future, as in this possibly afternoon, depending on what the doctor says after he looks at yesterday's PSA retest result & combines that with his findings from yesterday's exam.

Without getting too far ahead of myself, I suppose I could be looking at some more diagnostics too (that remains to be seen) -- so here's hoping whatever the urologist has in store for me brings about some good results like yours.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

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Biopsy.

Blew 6.9 on PSA retest.

That gets me a biopsy next week -- glad they were able to schedule it promptly.

I'm not expecting the experience to be much fun.

On the whole, I think I'd rather sign up for back-to-back timeshare sales presentations.

So it goes.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
 

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Actually, it's a lot quicker than a TS presentation, and almost certainly won't run overtime. And your host will probably have a better sense of humor.

If you had to pay your own way, you'd find it costs more than a Hawaiian TS's annual MF, though.
 

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Background Music.

In the classic hymn "Crown Him with many Crowns", one of the lines in the first verse is "Let Angels prostrate fall".
I suppose that's the tune I'll be humming along to myself while the doctor is doing the biopsy.

I'm hoping it will not be the tune the doctor is humming to himself while he's doing the biopsy.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
 
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OK, guys. It must be time to start this up again..or to continue it. It has been very educational, and I'm so glad I read all the posts.
We went back to the Urologist today, for the results of Phil's biopsy, and it turns out he also tested positive for cancer. His Gleason score was 6, and he'll have a bladder screening in a couple of weeks, and then, if that's clear, they'll schedule him for cryo-surgery in October.
We kept running into scheduling problems because of our TS trips, and a son's wedding in October. The Receptionist just shook her head, and said, "You guys don't really have time for this, do you?"
I am really grateful that out Internist sent Phil to the Urologist. Like Alan, he'd been "conveniently" forgetting to get checked for waaay too long.
And thanks to all of you for sharing your experiences, and allaying a lot of fear. Hugs to you all... Jean
 

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Young Men & Old Men.

When young men get together, they frequently start talking about women's body parts.

When old men get together, they frequently start talking about men's body parts.

Getting old is not for sissies.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
 

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Blew 6.9 on PSA retest.

3.9 to 6.9 probably means very treatable cancer. Don't take a negative biopsy as gospel. They don't always find it first time. You should also be reading up on treatment options before your biopsy. Reason is that many urologists will try to rush you into their treatment area of expertise. It may not be your choice. Today there are 2 or 3 different types of surgery, 2 or 3 types of radiation, and cryo. For example I had both IMRT and High Dose Rate Radiation. After a minor recurrance I had Cryo on one side of the prostate and now have been cancer free over 3 years. My point is that there are numerous treatment options. Each has their pluses and minuses. Understanding them before your urologist tries to direct you into his choice of treatment is immensely useful.

George
 

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I am a board certified urologist. Prostate problems are very common. Don't jump to conclusions or base your decisions on the latest fad shown on TV. If you are having problems with urination, see your physician. It is very difficult to be objective about yourself or a family member. I cannot give medical advice without a complete history and physical examination. I am sure that most other physicians would agree.
 

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As Women we have pregnancy, menapause, assorted reproductive system CA to cope with

If it is not one thing it's another. Women have more of the big reproduction related problems to deal with but men have to face life's darker side with THE PROSTATE. I am a nurse so I know.

See your urologist right away if you have a symptom. Get an annual PSA test.Fortunately most things that go wrong are not cancer and even if they are they are usually not one of the more lethal forms that require surgery.
 

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No Problems -- Just High P. S. A. Score.

If you are having problems with urination, see your physician.
Shux, I wasn't having any problems at all -- just a PSA score of 3.9 score in January, 11 in August, then 6.9 a week later on retest.

But once that remote & hidden area of my anatomy became a focus of medical attention, I started becoming physically aware of it bigtime -- as though it had swelled up like a beach ball when in reality it doubtless was more like a grapefruit.

This afternoon when I was waiting for the urologist, they dressed me up in a paper suit & left me there in the ultrasound-biopsy room long enough to have time to read the calendar-size Astra-Zeneca chart on the wall. The chart mostly had to do with prostate cancer, but it mentioned also that elevated PSA numbers can come from other things -- e.g., prostate infections, benign prostate enlargement, sexual intercourse, etc.

Now I won't deny I'm a sexy & semi-irresistable guy for my age (65), but somehow I doubt that the amount of action I'm involved in is what accounts for my elevated PSA numbers.

By & by the doctor & an assistant came in & administered the procedure. When they turned me loose I would have guessed they had been working me with their little machine for 1/2 hour or so. The Chief Staff later said I was only in there for a few minutes. Time drags when I'm having the opposite of fun.

Biopsy results are spozed to be back in a week. The pathology lab is up in Connecticut somewhere. (Go figure.) So for the next few days I'm to take it easy & not get myself wrapped around the axle with worry -- basically, not get ahead of myself on any of this & just take things a day at a time.

Hey There, Doc Pianodinasaur -- Are you (or were you) affiliated with Pianosaurus ? ( Just wondering. )

Odd Astra-Zeneca Note: My outstanding solid titanium dental implant that I got last year comes from a different division of Astra-Zeneca.

Coincidence ?

I think so.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
 
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Insurance - Medicare - RX


Alan


Did your Doctor give you a RX for an antibiotic to prevent infection
from the biopsy? Leva quin 500mg Cost $66.00 for 3 tablets w/o Ins
 

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Cipro.


Alan


Did your Doctor give you a RX for an antibiotic to prevent infection
from the biopsy? Leva quin 500mg Cost $66.00 for 3 tablets w/o Ins
Cipro Wednesday, Cipro Thursday, & Cipro Friday.

1,000 mg. XR

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

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Getting Old Is Not For Sissies.

Click here for a brief animated featurette on the subject.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
 

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An elevated PSA is a reminder that we are all mortal

To quote Emily Dickinson: "Mortality is fatal"
or
None of us gets out of this world alive (who said that first)

But good health care postpones the inevitable.
 
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