1 day reservations?

[namuh]

I was looking at the Las Vegas Flamingo for new year's eve, and noticed that rooms are available for a block with the exception of one night, new year's eve.

From my understanding, a reservation has to be at least 3 nights, so is Hilton holding out December 31 and basically preventing anybody from making a reservation for New Year's Eve so they can sell it to the public for more cash?

If so, that doesn't seem right to me.


scott

 

[echino]

That does not mean there are one-day reservations in place. Those could be multi-day reservations which overlap on the New Year's eve, like some people checking out on Jan.1 after staying several days, and others check in on Dec.31 for a multi-day stay. That way the New Year's eve may be fully booked, while surrounding dates still available.

 

[RedDogSD]

I was looking at the Las Vegas Flamingo for new year's eve, and noticed that rooms are available for a block with the exception of one night, new year's eve.

From my understanding, a reservation has to be at least 3 nights, so is Hilton holding out December 31 and basically preventing anybody from making a reservation for New Year's Eve so they can sell it to the public for more cash?

If so, that doesn't seem right to me.


scott

Why not? If these are un-owned weeks, then Hilton owns them. Why should they not be allowed to make the maximum amount possible by renting them out. The Cash rates for HGVC owners are very cheap. I don't blame them for not giving away Hotel rooms for $80/night.

You obviously do not own any Hilton stock. Their responsibility is to their shareholders.

 

[feed the otter]

While as an HGVC owner I would certainly like access to nights like New Year's in Vegas at firesale prices, I also think it's Hilton's prerogative to hold these back (if that's what they're doing). By way of that also being an event week, HGVC has already made clear that if we want to come and stay that week we really need to buy it.

 

[namuh]

Why not? If these are un-owned weeks, then Hilton owns them. Why should they not be allowed to make the maximum amount possible by renting them out. The Cash rates for HGVC owners are very cheap. I don't blame them for not giving away Hotel rooms for $80/night.

You obviously do not own any Hilton stock. Their responsibility is to their shareholders.

What if they are sold weeks? I think the Flamingo was sold out long ago.

I say their responsibility should be to their employer and customer, which is the Flamingo owners association, and through it the individual week owners of the Flamingo. Then their responsibility should be to follow the rules of the club that they have implemented and charge annual dues for. In my business you take care of the customer first before worrying about squeezing every penny you can out of a situation. You obviously have to me a warped view of the way things should be, whether or not you are a stock owner.

Admittedly I don't know what the management agreement states as far as Hilton's ability to hold out certain days from a possible reservation block. I also don't know if the club has rules saying that Hilton can do so. Perhaps they do in both cases, but even so, I don't like it. What would stop them from saying every Friday and Saturday is an "event" in Las Vegas, or any long weekend in Orlando?

scott

 

[jestme]

Although I think the overlapping of year end dates dates is probably the real reason, Hilton owns units elsewhere, and therefore owns "points". They, like owners can book with them, change their reservations, etc. If they have chosen to book a ton of New Years eve`s to rent out as hotel units, then they have given up availability somewhere else to do that.
Also beware that the concept of "sold out" might not be the same as 100% sold. Hilton can maintain ownership (and control of the board) of any HGVC it wants, and still say it is sold out. It just means they don't have any more they want to sell. I believe there is a percentage in Florida law (which is the overriding law for HGVC) indicating at what ownership percentage T/S owners have the right to take over the board from developers. But I could be wrong.

 

[Talent312]

Even if "sold out," I think that Hilton retains a baseline inventory for reservations thru Hilton Hotels, and perhaps adds to this inventory with points derived from HGVC members who use or convert points for stays in hotels.

They may well aggregate these to block out HGVC members who don't own an event week. I wouldn't be surprised. Hilton Hotels is certainly the bull in the china shop, and not subject to the same rules as the unwashed masses.

They may be saying, in effect, "There's HGVC members staying in our hotels for free, so we're gonna's take their points (and a few of our own) to set aside a block of units to make a little money." Try standing in front of that steamroller.

 

[Mcduck]

I stayed at the Flamingo during New years last year. Its pretty easy to get at the 9 month mark and I would say since its been a couple of months that people are checking in and out around those dates and thats why its not showing up. When I stayed we checked in on the 29th and out on the 1st and it seems people just are there for the couple of nights.

I would say that you would need to book at the 9 month mark and they might have rooms checking out on that day but no stay overs as people checking in on that night and before. I really don't think Hilton wants to take the single night away and rent it.