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Happy Aloha Friday

On our first trip to Maui (Honeymoon May 2003) we did a tour of Haleakala. Van ride to top. Enjoy the sunrise. Then bike down to the ocean. Stopped at a Country Club for Buffet Breakfast. 10,000 feet to Zero Feet. It was amazing. They gave you warm hats, gloves, and jacket. You would shed them as you descended. National Parks no longer allows Bike Tours to start inside Park. Now they Bike Tours take you to the top for Sunrise. Then you get back into the Van to go down to just outside National Park and get on Bike. Nowhere near as great.
 
Henry M. said:
Can't wait to get to Maui on Friday next week. I'll be waving to Jeff from Ka'anapali!
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I'll be waving from across the Pailolo Channel. 🤙🏻🌺
 
geist1223 said:
10,000 feet to Zero Feet.
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geist1223 said:
National Parks no longer allows Bike Tours to start inside Park
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There were many people who had serious injuries & several deaths with these tours..
Have seen (hardcore) cyclists riding up & down Haleakala on several trips (but not organized commercial trips)...
*There was a Maui county ordinance in 2022 for tours outside park also, as below...

From Google:
'The National Park Service (NPS) halted commercial downhill bike tours in Haleakala National Park due to an unacceptably high risk, evidenced by multiple fatalities and serious injuries in the years leading up to 2007. The suspension, which began in October 2007, was a temporary "safety stand-down" to critically analyze the activity, but has since continued. The NPS has not permanently banned all bike activity but continues to evaluate the operations and management of commercial tours through the park's Commercial Services Plan, which is the best tool for determining the future of such commercial activities within the park.

Reasons for the Suspension
  • Fatalities and Injuries:
    A series of serious accidents, including three fatalities within a single year, led to the NPS's temporary suspension of tours.

  • High-Risk Rating:
    A park service review found the in-park commercial downhill tours, as they were managed before 2007, posed an unacceptably high risk to park visitors.

  • Liability Concerns:
    While not explicitly stated, the risk of accidents and potential lawsuits was a significant consideration for the park service, as it was for local authorities.
Current Status
  • Continued Moratorium:
    The initial suspension has remained in effect since 2007 and continues pending a full evaluation of the activity through the park's Commercial Services Plan (CSP).

  • Van Tours:
    Commercial companies are still permitted to operate van tours within the park under Commercial Use Authorizations (CUAs).

  • Individual Activity Allowed:
    The NPS ban does not affect individual visitors who choose to ride their own bikes within the park.
Changes and Regulations
  • Maui County Ordinance:
    In 2022, Maui County enacted a law regulating commercial downhill tours on roads outside the park, limiting them to 10 riders, requiring a minimum age of 15, and restricting operations to a specific section of Haleakala Crater Road.

  • Ongoing Evaluation:
    The NPS continues to evaluate the impact of commercial bike tours on park operations, resources, and visitor experiences'.
 
mountainboy said:
There were many people who had serious injuries & several deaths with these tours..
Have seen (hardcore) cyclists riding up & down Haleakala on several trips (but not organized commercial trips)...
*There was a Maui county ordinance in 2022 for tours outside park also, as below...

From Google:
'The National Park Service (NPS) halted commercial downhill bike tours in Haleakala National Park due to an unacceptably high risk, evidenced by multiple fatalities and serious injuries in the years leading up to 2007. The suspension, which began in October 2007, was a temporary "safety stand-down" to critically analyze the activity, but has since continued. The NPS has not permanently banned all bike activity but continues to evaluate the operations and management of commercial tours through the park's Commercial Services Plan, which is the best tool for determining the future of such commercial activities within the park.

Reasons for the Suspension
  • Fatalities and Injuries:
    A series of serious accidents, including three fatalities within a single year, led to the NPS's temporary suspension of tours.

  • High-Risk Rating:
    A park service review found the in-park commercial downhill tours, as they were managed before 2007, posed an unacceptably high risk to park visitors.

  • Liability Concerns:
    While not explicitly stated, the risk of accidents and potential lawsuits was a significant consideration for the park service, as it was for local authorities.
Current Status
  • Continued Moratorium:
    The initial suspension has remained in effect since 2007 and continues pending a full evaluation of the activity through the park's Commercial Services Plan (CSP).

  • Van Tours:
    Commercial companies are still permitted to operate van tours within the park under Commercial Use Authorizations (CUAs).

  • Individual Activity Allowed:
    The NPS ban does not affect individual visitors who choose to ride their own bikes within the park.
Changes and Regulations
  • Maui County Ordinance:
    In 2022, Maui County enacted a law regulating commercial downhill tours on roads outside the park, limiting them to 10 riders, requiring a minimum age of 15, and restricting operations to a specific section of Haleakala Crater Road.

  • Ongoing Evaluation:
    The NPS continues to evaluate the impact of commercial bike tours on park operations, resources, and visitor experiences'.
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I have done the Waimea Canyon bike tour several times. I feel that tour is much safer than the Haleakala one, and it still has spectacular scenery. There have been no fatalities. There's also less traffic on the road. The trailing van blocks any cars from passing. If it starts to back up, everybody pulls over at the next scenic lookout. There is still some danger involved:

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BTW, this has not been photoshoped. T-rex is 6" tall and 12" from the camera. The tour guide took the picture. 😆
 
What was happening with Haleakala Bike Tours is that many times when people were injured they would sue. They would sue the Bike Tour and because the ride started in the National Park the National Park. The Bike Companies all signed Contracts that said they would assume the liability if any. All the Bike Riders signed a Release acknowledging that the Bike Ride was hazardous that released the National Park from liability. So when a law suit was filed naming the Bike Company and the National Park the US Attorney's Office would file a Motion to have the Park and Federal Government dismissed. It was always granted but it was a time consuming hassle.
 
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Happy Aloha Friday!!! It's the last Friday in September so Fall will be in full swing with the arrival of October and we only have two months left of Hurricane Season.

This week's picture keeps us here on Molokai at the beach next to Wavecrest. The boat is anchored and ready to head out for a quick fishing outing or to check crab traps.

Enjoy and have an Awesome Aloha Friday and a Great Weekend!!!🤙🏻🌴🌺😎
 
Happy Aloha Friday from Salem Oregon. We are having a few days of Fall like weather.

Patti and I have been looking at a change in living arrangements in the next 5 to 8 years. We are currently 71 and still active. But planning for the future. We want to make the decision not drop this on the kids. It had to be a full continuing care facility. We have decided on Capitol Manor In Salem. It has everything from 1 and 2 bedroom Villas (Houses) and Studio to 2 bedroom Apartments. We decided on a 2 Bedroom Terrace Apartment. The Wait List for these averages about 8 years. You have to choose the type of Unit in advance to go on the Wait List. If you change your mind on type of Unit you go to the bottom of that Wait List. If you change your mind after you move in there is an additional fee because they completely update before you move in. We have toured this place twice, seen all the different type Units, and eaten in the Restaurant.

It also has a Dementia Unit and a Unit for if you need a lot of medical assistance.
 
geist1223 said:
Happy Aloha Friday from Salem Oregon. We are having a few days of Fall like weather.

Patti and I have been looking at a change in living arrangements in the next 5 to 8 years. We are currently 71 and still active. But planning for the future. We want to make the decision not drop this on the kids. It had to be a full continuing care facility. We have decided on Capitol Manor In Salem. It has everything from 1 and 2 bedroom Villas (Houses) and Studio to 2 bedroom Apartments. We decided on a 2 Bedroom Terrace Apartment. The Wait List for these averages about 8 years. You have to choose the type of Unit in advance to go on the Wait List. If you change your mind on type of Unit you go to the bottom of that Wait List. If you change your mind after you move in there is an additional fee because they completely update before you move in. We have toured this place twice, seen all the different type Units, and eaten in the Restaurant.

It also has a Dementia Unit and a Unit for if you need a lot of medical assistance.
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I wish my dad had been so considerate as he aged, after my mom passed away. We his kids kept encouraging him to move to a CCR, pointing out that he could live independently, still drive and travel, but have someone else cook for him and clean his home. He refused, until finally he had an episode (I think a mini-stroke) and decided he was ready to move. We were able to get him into a lovely assisted living facility, where he’s very happy, but his house had deteriorated to the point that it had to be demolished because it was too heavily infested with mold and termites to be repaired. It took 8 months to clear it out before that could be accomplished.
 
Happy Aloha Friday. It's been a heavy travel month. I leave this weekend for my 3rd business trip in the last 30(ish) days. Windward weather is great today. It's currently Sunny and 78 with a high of 84 today. In between my 1st and 2nd trip, we hosted some friends and I played tour guide for a couple days. Here are some pics overlooking Halona Beach Cove and Blowhole.

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NiteMaire said:
Happy Aloha Friday. It's been a heavy travel month. I leave this weekend for my 3rd business trip in the last 30(ish) days. Windward weather is great today. It's currently Sunny and 78 with a high of 84 today. In between my 1st and 2nd trip, we hosted some friends and I played tour guide for a couple days. Here are some pics overlooking Halona Beach Cove and Blowhole.

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Sandy Beach (or Sandy's as locals call it) in the background of your first pic was my main stomping ground in my teens and early twenties. The pounding shorebreak provided many free chiropractic adjustments.
 
sponger76 said:
Sandy Beach (or Sandy's as locals call it) in the background of your first pic was my main stomping ground in my teens and early twenties. The pounding shorebreak provided many free chiropractic adjustments.
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Sandy's is one of my favorites. I virtually always pull in when I drive past it. There's a great instagram account "sandybeachsurfreport" that has great daily updates on conditions and will also show tourists getting hammered by waves. That shorebreak will definitely provide chiropractic adjustments; I'm not brave enough to test it.
 
NiteMaire said:
Sandy's is one of my favorites. I virtually always pull in when I drive past it. There's a great instagram account "sandybeachsurfreport" that has great daily updates on conditions and will also show tourists getting hammered by waves. That shorebreak will definitely provide chiropractic adjustments; I'm not brave enough to test it.
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Yeah, I met the guy who runs that IG account a few times. Had my picture a couple of times on his and a couple other IG accounts. It's not as easy as it used to be but I still get out there every once in a while to catch some waves.
 
Happy Aloha Friday yesterday !!!

Road tripping on Saturday. Last week we ended up in Leavenworth WA.

Bill

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@easyrider
Looks like we were at Leavenwoth at the same time. Worldmark overlooking the park and ballfields.
Walk along the river to town, 20 minutes easy.
Perfect weather, wildfire smoke disapated and 80's.

Lots of foot traffic on the main street and dog walkers.
Spent a couple hundred $ in 2 hours at trhe art walk.

Aloha to all
 
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