[ 2019 ] Best II Resort trader

[Hobokie]

But you get 3 weeks in II every 2 years. 1,300x3 = 3,900 points, you are getting 4,000 points in two years.

Can you explain this further, please? I am basically II illiterate at this point, ha! Ask me anything about HGVC or WM, but II or RCI =

Or feel free to suggest a few good threads to learn more about this, if you have the time

 

[Mjasp]

Yes, but hardly ever available. Prior to covid this year there was availability that popped up. I saw you ask about becoming a member to see sightings. Yes that’s the only way you can see sightings. Also, in 20 years I’ve NEVER seen units like WKORN or ARUBA Marriott in interval until I joined TUG and saw them in sightings. It is worth it! But also, do your part and if you things, list it. Help the community (after you book what you want of course lol)

@Shankilicious was asking about how to see sightings, I've been with TUG for years, but thanks for the reminder, it's time to
renew, going to do that now, now that I'm in the TS game again. lol

 

[Mjasp]

Thanks for asking. I planned to update this thread once I pulled the trigger on something, and am sometimes nervous about announcing buying intentions before executing.

I have decided I am open to buying any of the following (possibly a couple of the following) but I am not in a hurry and looking for a bargain.

1) The Colonies Williamsburg 4BR LO, only 150 TDI Weeks (My conclusion is this is likely the best value purchase for me)
2) If I can get a bargain on it, my heart's desire (with limited compromise) is a Diamond Week at HRC Beach House in Key West
3) An EOY Contract for a Marriott 2BR LO for platinum week at Marriott Willow Ridge Lodge (Branson, MO) (seems like a decent trader with Marriott priority)

If anyone sees a bargain from a good seller on any of the above please PM me instead of replying to this thread.

What I have listed is probably what I want at this time in order of desire. Getting all three would be way too much, too quick even if purchase prices were great. I might potentially go with #1 and then either #2 or #3 if I got only a bit carried away.

So funny, I was so ready to pull the trigger on an EOY Hyatt Key West resort, and I still may in the future, but decided at this time I really only wanted a trader and to also have access to "extra vacations" offered, as we like to do 3-5 night trips and the cost of hotels with resort fees are more than renting one of these last call weeks.
Good Luck

 

[Mongoose]

Can you explain this further, please? I am basically II illiterate at this point, ha! Ask me anything about HGVC or WM, but II or RCI =

Or feel free to suggest a few good threads to learn more about this, if you have the time

What he is saying is the point values are based on unit size and season. A platinum season for 2000 points for 2 years will give you 4000 points. This compares to a smaller unit with a different season which only gets 1300 points. You would need 3 years to get 3900 points compared to 2 years for 4000 points. In the example the MF's could be identical. So its better to spend more up front on a better season.

 

[CPNY]

So funny, I was so ready to pull the trigger on an EOY Hyatt Key West resort, and I still may in the future, but decided at this time I really only wanted a trader and to also have access to "extra vacations" offered, as we like to do 3-5 night trips and the cost of hotels with resort fees are more than renting one of these last call weeks.
Good Luck

If you just want a trader why not a low MF SBP? If you want the AC’s and getaways with the occasional exchange I’d go with a low cost Marriott unit or SBP. If i were to get a trader, it would be something that would be easily rented on the off years. I think Danny recommended a WLR which is a great unit to own.

 

[Mjasp]

If you just want a trader why not a low MF SBP? If you want the AC’s and getaways with the occasional exchange I’d go with a low cost Marriott unit or SBP. If i were to get a trader, it would be something that would be easily rented on the off years. I think Danny recommended a WLR which is a great unit to own.

Exactly what I went with... SBP EOY Gold Plus. In the future if I want to pick up a Hyatt unit, I will. But for now, went with the SBP

 

[CPNY]

Exactly what I went with... SBP EOY Gold Plus. In the future if I want to pick up a Hyatt unit, I will. But for now, went with the SBP

Excellent. So far with everything sighted, I’ve seen it all with my SVV. I’m sure the SBP will pull everything outside of the Marriott to Marriott priority.

 

[scoutings]

Where are we on this thread as WorldMark no longer appears to be an independent agency?

 

[dms1709]

with Hyatt, you do not have the Marriott preference and you can see further out. I would look at a Marriott.

 

[jwalk03]

with Hyatt, you do not have the Marriott preference and you can see further out. I would look at a Marriott.

I agree with this. If you want to be able to trade to Marriott resorts in II- I would buy a Marriott trader. The preference really makes a difference in getting the really good stuff. I bought a Marriott Harbour Lake 2BR Platinum in 2020 and have gotten the following trades so far:

Studio- 2BR Aruba Surf Club- April
Studio (re-trade)- 1BR Ocean Pointe- May
Studio- 2BR Grande Vista- Jan
1BR- 2BR Surfwatch- Sept

 

[scoutings]

II resorts I own:

Sheraton Broadway Plantation Platinum Plus small 1BR

Hands down the best II trader of my bunch is SBP. You can pick em up for free, get Vistana preference, inexpensive MF, deposits good for 3 years and you can set up searches 2 years out.

Hyatt is second best, your points go far and the underlying ownership is more valuable. But you get no preference for anything in II and can only search one year out.

Can one assume that a 2b trades same or better?

 

[tschwa2]

Can one assume that a 2b trades same or better?

The trading for SBP would be better but not necessarily twice as good and the difference in MF's is $471.83 vs $1107.09 (dedicated 2BR) or $1385.20 (2BR lock off).

 

[scoutings]

The trading for SBP would be better but not necessarily twice as good and the difference in MF's is $471.83 vs $1107.09 (dedicated 2BR) or $1385.20 (2BR lock off).

oooohhhh!!!

 

[Lithoboy]

I know this is now a very old thread... but wondering if the advice here has changed at all over the past few years? most cost efficient way to get into II...? Hyatt resale still a good option? others? SPB? I am looking for a trader and access to extra vacations.

 

[Hindsite]

I know this is now a very old thread... but wondering if the advice here has changed at all over the past few years? most cost efficient way to get into II...? Hyatt resale still a good option? others? SPB? I am looking for a trader and access to extra vacations.

If you read the New to timesharing thread, you'll see how the view has changed. I don't recall the exact date, but its at least 2 years ago when Hyatt updated the points table for exchanging in II, which generated a largely significant downgrade in what you could get for how many points. The "table" turned into a set of tables that vary according to quality of the resort being exchanged into. Hyatt (HRC, not Welk) has gone from and excellent II trader to a good II trader.

There has also been changes elsewhere with some independents are not pulling what they once would, and if you go to the sightings forum you will find a thread discussing changes in trading power for some of the MVC and Vistana resorts. There is also something weird going on with visibility of Hyatt inventory in II, uncharacteristically there is a lot available for Getaways at a shade under the cost of maint fees for the weeks and exchange inventory fluctuating in and out like a barn door in a gale.

MVC (II's parent company) recently had poor results, partly due to II's underperformance, so don't expect things to "improve" as the company tries to recover performance. I'd say more than ever, there is no "best" answer to this question and the key differentiator in performance is to clearly understand what you are trying to get out of using II and select a choice that suits that and make sure you know hao to use the system to get value for money.

 

[Mjasp]

Since this thread has been resurrected, I have to say I took the advice of some and purchased a 1BR Gold Plus odd year at Broadway Plantation for $7 on ebay and owner paid closing.
Here is what I got for trades so far...
Studio in LaCabana in Aruba
1 BR at Harborside
1 BR at Marriott Ocean club Aruba Ocean Club
2 BR at Marriott Beachplace Towers
1 BR at Disney Saratoga Springs Resort
2 BR at Hyatt Beach Club in Key West
1 BR at the Carriage House in Las Vegas
I purchase E plus and above are all the resorts I booked but not necessarily went to, Whether we saw something else we wanted instead or other reasons.
I think they are pretty good trades, although some may not.

I recently purchased a HGVC 1BR Grand Plus 8,800 points at the Elara in Vegas every Even year for $300 from TUG and owner paid closing costs. But not the $715 Hilton fee. Going to Myrtle Beach to the HGVC Ocean Enclave in September plus more, but nothing booked yet because I'm retired, so I can just look and see what's available and go.

Happy Timesharing