Raintree contract ending

[Dommt]

We are in our last year. Dec 2026 is the end of our contract. We have shares with the 3 Club Regina properties .I have two issues and have received conflicting information from asking RTV/RCI reps. I have about 100 Trade value points in RCI and 500k in RTV..
I was told as long asI renew my RCI membership I can use up my trade value points and buy last minute items etc.
RVC says I can keep my 500K points in their system until 2030 even after my contract ends.
Another rep says I loose my 500 K unless I put them in RCI which then has a 2 year window unless I pay to extend.
So what’s true? I just don’t trust the. Information I am getting .

 

[rpennisi]

I don't know how the RVC works as far as keeping points in their system. But if you deposit into an active RCI account, your points would be good for two years and you can extend those or any remaining points for a fee into the future.

One of my Mayan Palace contracts also expires Dec 2026, so I paid the MFs for my unused weeks and deposited them into my active RCI account.

 

[Dommt]

Thank you! I makes sense that as long as our RCI membership is current we should be able to continue using it. Now, as a member of RTV, when we call in we get a RVC/RTV rep. As they control the inventory of Raintree.

 

[rpennisi]

Thank you! I makes sense that as long as our RCI membership is current we should be able to continue using it. Now, as a member of RTV, when we call in we get a RVC/RTV rep. As they control the inventory of Raintree.

Raintree does put weeks into RCI for trades. They usually show up early, many months before use, so you can go that route if you still want to stay at Raintree locations. Or you can use your RCI points to stay anywhere else.

The Raintree resort in marina Puerto Vallarta has an excellent location for going to the many restaurants at the marina, within walking distance.

 

[easyrider]

So what’s true? I just don’t trust the. Information I am getting

We own UVCI in Mexico. So far, three of our memberships have expired. On the expiration date, UVCI doesn't recognize the paid up account. If there is anything banked it just disappears.

When a contract expires it is over, period. To me this means that any RCI deposit of an active week would become inactive when the contract expires. I wouldn't believe anything a Mexican rep says, even if they put it in writing.

Bill

 

[Dommt]

We own UVCI in Mexico. So far, three of our memberships have expired. On the expiration date, UVCI doesn't recognize the paid up account. If there is anything banked it just disappears.

When a contract expires it is over, period. To me this means that any RCI deposit of an active week would become inactive when the contract expires. I wouldn't believe anything a Mexican rep says, even if they put it in writing.

Bill

That's, my dilemma, If the RCI membership is active, the banked time should still be there and available. The RTV time they say I can still use but who is correct?

 

[Dommt]

Raintree does put weeks into RCI for trades. They usually show up early, many months before use, so you can go that route if you still want to stay at Raintree locations. Or you can use your RCI points to stay anywhere else.

The Raintree resort in marina Puerto Vallarta has an excellent location for going to the many restaurants at the marina, within walking distance.

We're headed there in Dec. Trying to burn up points....

 

[rpennisi]

We own UVCI in Mexico. So far, three of our memberships have expired. On the expiration date, UVCI doesn't recognize the paid up account. If there is anything banked it just disappears.

When a contract expires it is over, period. To me this means that any RCI deposit of an active week would become inactive when the contract expires. I wouldn't believe anything a Mexican rep says, even if they put it in writing.

Bill

Bill, I don't believe if you paid your MF and then deposited your week into RCI, that RCI deposit would go away with the end of your company contract. Do you have any experience of that happening with an RCI deposited week?

 

[easyrider]

Bill, I don't believe if you paid your MF and then deposited your week into RCI, that RCI deposit would go away with the end of your company contract. Do you have any experience of that happening with an RCI deposited week?

No experience because I called Resortcom which is the management company for UVCI. I did ask Resortcom how my contracts played out because I was wanting to bank a couple of weeks for the next year or place them into an exchange. They said once our contracts expire they were inactive so nothing past the expiration date of the rtu would be usable.

If you deposited a week that was used during the rtu, to take a RCI week after the rtu expires, it should be ok imo, but that's a question for RCI.

Bill

 

[Dommt]

No experience because I called Resortcom which is the management company for UVCI. I did ask Resortcom how my contracts played out because I was wanting to bank a couple of weeks for the next year or place them into an exchange. They said once our contracts expire they were inactive so nothing past the expiration date of the rtu would be usable.

If you deposited a week that was used during the rtu, to take a RCI week after the rtu expires, it should be ok imo, but that's a question for RCI.

Bill

I've asked RCI different times and got different answers ....

 

[easyrider]

I've asked RCI different times and got different answers ....

The answer I received from Resortcom for our Mexican timeshares that had expiring rtu's was the account , which is our UVCI in Mexico rtu, was only usable during the contract period. I had asked about using an exchange company and they said the same thing.

Now that you brought it up, @rpennisi is right. You can place a deposit into RCI as long as that deposit goes in before the rtu expires. This would give you two years to use the deposit.

This is what the Bill AI says.

Yes, you can deposit a week into RCI before your timeshare contract expires, and the deposited week can be used for an exchange after your contract ends, but the deposit is only valid for up to two years from the deposit date. To ensure your deposit is usable after your contract expires, you must use it before the deposit expires or extend the deposit's validity, if possible.

My bet is that those saying otherwise at the resort really don't know how RCI works. I haven't a clue why RCI wouldn't know.

Bill

 

[Dommt]

The answer I received from Resortcom for our Mexican timeshares that had expiring rtu's was the account , which is our UVCI in Mexico rtu, was only usable during the contract period. I had asked about using an exchange company and they said the same thing.

Now that you brought it up, @rpennisi is right. You can place a deposit into RCI as long as that deposit goes in before the rtu expires. This would give you two years to use the deposit.

This is what the Bill AI says.

Yes, you can deposit a week into RCI before your timeshare contract expires, and the deposited week can be used for an exchange after your contract ends, but the deposit is only valid for up to two years from the deposit date. To ensure your deposit is usable after your contract expires, you must use it before the deposit expires or extend the deposit's validity, if possible.

My bet is that those saying otherwise at the resort really don't know how RCI works. I haven't a clue why RCI wouldn't know.

Bill

Thanks Bill. That was what I was told by one of the agents and the one that makes sense. With Raintree being bought out By Holiday recently, I am not sure that the points I have in RTV will still be available until 2030 as promised. I may just deposit them all in RCI to be safe. I plan to call RTV again to see if I get the same story...
Dom

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

Hi @Dommt
Do you own another TS ?
[ if so ] is it RCI affiliated?

 

[Dommt]

Hi @Dommt
Do you own another TS ?
[ if so ] is it RCI affiliated?

No, Just the Club Regina. RCI said that as long as I pay the membership, I can continue to use my banked time after my RTV contract expires. Are you thinking I have to have another TS to do that?

 

[WorldT]

No, Just the Club Regina. RCI said that as long as I pay the membership, I can continue to use my banked time after my RTV contract expires. Are you thinking I have to have another TS to do that?

No, you don't. All deposited points and TPUs remain active for the duration specified when you made the deposit (usually two years from check-in date) as long as you pay the RCI yearly fee. Same applies to Interval International.

 

[WorldT]

Thanks Bill. That was what I was told by one of the agents and the one that makes sense. With Raintree being bought out By Holiday recently, I am not sure that the points I have in RTV will still be available until 2030 as promised. I may just deposit them all in RCI to be safe. I plan to call RTV again to see if I get the same story...
Dom

If you are not sure what will happen after the change in ownership and you believe you can use them all up in RCI over the next two years, I will consider depositing them in RCI.
If you don't use them, there is the option to pay to extend for another year or two. If you don't want to extend, you can make your friends very happy by giving them trips.

 

[Dommt]

Well, we are headed to Puerto Vallarta in a couple weeks. I'll see what story I get there and will report what I find. Thanks for the input. Dom

 

[DonnaD]

If you cannot use all your points before they expire, you could rent out time at one of Club Regina resorts to get reimbursed for the maintenance fees you have paid over the years. There are many people who want extra time in Puerto Vallarta. I use my points to stay for 8 weeks in winter and there are a lot of snow birds who do the same. You have 10 weeks in a one bedroom oceanfront unit with 500,000 points. You could easily get $12,000 in rental fees if you don’t want to go there yourself. I would not risk losing the value of the points. Just my thoughts on it. I love my time in PV at Club Regina.

 

[Dommt]

Thanks. I would love to recoop my mf’s. We’re headed there next week

 

[Dommt]

Well, very interesting presentation. We were told we are no longer members and they are doing us a favor “accommodating” us. They wanted 30k for us to buy in and then after many no thanks it went down to 16k but we could only use the mex 3 resorts . Basically what already own. And we had to use our Raintree points in 3 years or loose them. It’s a really crappy situation. We have never been treated so badly by them and the front desk. After 30 years of membership we are letting kicked to the curb unless we pay the big bucks , again!

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

Well, very interesting presentation. We were told we are no longer members and they are doing us a favor “accommodating” us. They wanted 30k for us to buy in and then after many no thanks it went down to 16k but we could only use the mex 3 resorts . Basically what already own. And we had to use our Raintree points in 3 years or loose them. It’s a really crappy situation. We have never been treated so badly by them and the front desk. After 30 years of membership we are letting kicked to the curb unless we pay the big bucks , again!

I would assume that some or all of what you were told was lies - by TS sales
My suggestion is to enjoy the rest of your vacation & call Raintree customer service / reservations upon your return home .

 

[Dommt]

I agree, however, the front desk was just as bad with the lying. The TS crew is Holiday, they were awful, the front desk tags say Raintree. They have been rude to people and lying as well.

 

[Dommt]

Also. The assistant manager of the RT property told us that the 20% discount is not being honored anymore. Only because we got in their face and caught them in several lies did she give us the discount.

 

[travel maniac]

No experience with Club Regina other than staying at the PV location recently. We enjoyed it a lot for 2 weeks as an RCI exchanger.

Lots of experience with RCI though. We've been using RCI to exchange for the past decade (or more). We currently don't have a timeshare but have saved TPUs in RCI (from low cost, low MF resorts we owned in the past). There is an option to extend your deposits or combine (if you have multiple deposits). I have been doing either of those for the past several years (you have to see which one works best for you). I think you can do it for a maximum of 2 years at a time. After 2 years, it's rinse and repeat. No issues in renewing RCI as well - try doing it online as it's easy (and no need to deal with a human who may ask you if you currently own anywhere).

I wouldn't believe anything anyone tells me verbally in the timeshare business unless it's written down. And even then it can change but at least you have something to rely on.

 

[Dommt]

Thank you. I will either book try and sell or sell the points or deposit in RCI!