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Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

rickandcindy23 said:
I am sure glad my transfers of Bali Hai are in process. I am imagining how Title is going to handle all of these deeds. Wyndham may have to hire an attorney to accomplish the transfers in a decent timeframe. The incompetence of Wyndham's transfer department is evident in the 4-5 months it takes for the process. Mine have been in process for a few weeks,
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Perhaps they could use LT Transfers?

Not just the deed transfer, but I suspect they will do a property/title search to ensure clear title for each deed. One question, what happens when someone goes to do a CWA swap and they have a clouded title from a preiouvs transfer or even for theirs. That could get messy but who pays to clear the title? The owner or Wyndham?
 
I own a converted fixed week at Star Island and have gotten no notices of an HOA vote. Is there a contact person at the HOA? I have tried contacting the resort directly. They refer me to Wyndham. When I call Wyndham, they are no help at all.
 
regatta333 said:
I own a converted fixed week at Star Island and have gotten no notices of an HOA vote. Is there a contact person at the HOA? I have tried contacting the resort directly. They refer me to Wyndham. When I call Wyndham, they are no help at all.
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Apparently the vote happened last week. Is your contact information on the Wyndham website up to date?
 
dioxide45 said:
Apparently the vote happened last week. Is your contact information on the Wyndham website up to date?
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The contact info on the Wyndham website has nothing to do with the HOA itself. If their contact information with the HOA isn't correct, then they will not receive the comms in scope. They should contact the HOA itself to determine if the HOA has the correct contact information. The resort should be able to provide HOA contact information - that's why we've listed the local resort contact number in our tracker.
 
HitchHiker71 said:
The contact info on the Wyndham website has nothing to do with the HOA itself. If their contact information with the HOA isn't correct, then they will not receive the comms in scope. They should contact the HOA itself to determine if the HOA has the correct contact information. The resort should be able to provide HOA contact information - that's why we've listed the local resort contact number in our tracker.
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Doesn't Club Wyndham, as property manager, handle these communications with the owners on behalf of the association? Who actually mails out the annual assessment bills? Perhaps with Star Island not managed by Wyndham that wouldn't be the case. But is it this way for all properties?

I don't own any deeded Wyndham weeks, but are owners responsible for updating two systems? One with the HOA and then their contact information with Wyndham? I would expect Wyndham to make contact information provided to them available to the association. No?
 
dioxide45 said:
As far as I know, the time limit to edit a post is 48 hours. This applies to any post.
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Good to know. Yesterday I tried to edit a response in a private conversation and got a message that there was a 5 minute limit to do that. Another time, I'm not sure in which forum, I seem to remember getting a message that there was 15 minute time limit to edit a post.

In the future if I want to edit something, I'll try before assuming I can't.
 
I called the number provided for Star Island and got the same person as before, but this time I was persistent and pushed her to look into it. Apparently, I own a fixed week in building 16, which she says is Vacation Break. She says it is not one of the buildings impacted by the bankruptcy and I can continue to use it under Wyndham as it has been converted to points. Bummer. Maintenance fees are pretty high and I was hoping I'd be able to get a CWA contract in lieu of it.
 
Jan M. said:
Good to know. Yesterday I tried to edit a response in a private conversation and got a message that there was a 5 minute limit to do that. Another time, I'm not sure in which forum, I seem to remember getting a message that there was 15 minute time limit to edit a post.

In the future if I want to edit something, I'll try before assuming I can't.
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Yeah, DMs seem to have a much shorter limit to edit, but as far as I know forum posts are all 48 hours. There are limits in the time between new posts that you may have seen?
 
donno said:
I tried to get the Wyndham representatives to answer the question about how and when these reservations would be handled if I was not going to do the CWA swap.
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I suspect those reservations will be cancelled unless you have the new contracts affirmatively in your account before they get around to performing the necessary cancellations. And that could happen any day now.

If it were me, I'd proactively cancel them and make other plans, and plan to use the "new" points for something else once they transferred into my account. But I have a low tolerance for f'ing around with this sort of thing, and would rather take the simpler path. YMMV.
 
donno said:
I am in the situation where all my existing points with two contracts at Fairfield Bay will not be available after 2025 and I already had reservations in 2025 and 2026 using all of my 2026 points by the time the closing of Fairfield Bay was coming to light.
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bnoble said:
If it were me, I'd proactively cancel them and make other plans, and plan to use the "new" points for something else once they transferred into my account.
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Perhaps @donno can confirm, but I don't think they specifically stated that the reservations were at Fairfield Bay or even a property that was closing. So they may not need make reservations for something else but it may be wise to cancel the existing and still make new? I didn't think Wyndham tracked which contracts points came from when making a reservation. So perhaps it won't even matter.
 
regatta333 said:
I called the number provided for Star Island and got the same person as before, but this time I was persistent and pushed her to look into it. Apparently, I own a fixed week in building 16, which she says is Vacation Break. She says it is not one of the buildings impacted by the bankruptcy and I can continue to use it under Wyndham as it has been converted to points. Bummer. Maintenance fees are pretty high and I was hoping I'd be able to get a CWA contract in lieu of it.
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This all makes my head spin. If that is the case, it would seem that Star Island isn't a "Wyndham Exit" and is actually "Consolidation". They are planning to exit one of the HOAs, but it seems that owners in some of the other HOAs may have converted weeks that will carry on?
 
regatta333 said:
I called the number provided for Star Island and got the same person as before, but this time I was persistent and pushed her to look into it. Apparently, I own a fixed week in building 16, which she says is Vacation Break. She says it is not one of the buildings impacted by the bankruptcy and I can continue to use it under Wyndham as it has been converted to points. Bummer. Maintenance fees are pretty high and I was hoping I'd be able to get a CWA contract in lieu of it.
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You need to update your email on the Star Island owners access website https://secure.star-island.com/MyResort/ and also the my.equiant.com pay portal (not sure if you were aware you can pay your maintenance fee online at the my.equiant.com pay site) otherwise you would have received an email from Star Island like I did which I posted here on this thread.
 
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regatta333 said:
I called the number provided for Star Island and got the same person as before, but this time I was persistent and pushed her to look into it. Apparently, I own a fixed week in building 16, which she says is Vacation Break. She says it is not one of the buildings impacted by the bankruptcy and I can continue to use it under Wyndham as it has been converted to points. Bummer. Maintenance fees are pretty high and I was hoping I'd be able to get a CWA contract in lieu of it.
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Hmm, so you're saying that the unit you have was converted to points under Wyndham? So whenever you exchange it are you using Wyndham points and you can see this? I'm a little confused by your post
 
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regatta333 said:
I called the number provided for Star Island and got the same person as before, but this time I was persistent and pushed her to look into it. Apparently, I own a fixed week in building 16, which she says is Vacation Break. She says it is not one of the buildings impacted by the bankruptcy and I can continue to use it under Wyndham as it has been converted to points. Bummer. Maintenance fees are pretty high and I was hoping I'd be able to get a CWA contract in lieu of it.
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The building doesn't matter because not all of the Wyndham units/weeks are in the same buildings. Afaik from what I was told in the past by the resort when I inquired, only a couple buildings at Star Island are solely Wyndham.

If the week was converted to Wyndham points, that makes you a Wyndham owner. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't be offered the exchange for CWA points.
 
regatta333 said:
I called the number provided for Star Island and got the same person as before, but this time I was persistent and pushed her to look into it. Apparently, I own a fixed week in building 16, which she says is Vacation Break. She says it is not one of the buildings impacted by the bankruptcy and I can continue to use it under Wyndham as it has been converted to points. Bummer. Maintenance fees are pretty high and I was hoping I'd be able to get a CWA contract in lieu of it.
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That'a an interesting situation that you own a non-wyndham owned unit, and were able to do a points conversion with it. Probably something that wouldn't be possible today.
 
bnoble said:
nor am I going to spend any time, energy, or money trying to see if they are.
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im betting...that THEY are betting.... this covers 99.9% of other owners as well...
 
CO skier said:
Found this in less than 2 minutes using Google:

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This can be a problem with a quick 2 minute Google search. This seems to be a different situation where Flagship Resorts as a company is bankrupt. They owe multiple associations lots of money in unpaid maintenance fees. This isn't really an equivalent as Wyndham isn't filing bankruptcy. It appears they have a buyer for their assets, but that doesn't necessarily indicate there is a plan to terminate the timeshare regimes at the three properties in question of Flagship Resorts. Flagship owns or owned deeded weeks at the properties. It is those, among other, assets that are being sold. Certainly as a resort operator, the impact to the association could be dire but it isn't really a good comparison to what is currently going on with the Wyndham property. Even if Wyndham, Marriott Vacations or Hilton Grand Vacations went bankrupt there would be significant problems, but another buyer could come along and continue operations with little impact to owners or the condominium associatins.
 
Floridaman76 said:
That'a an interesting situation that you own a non-wyndham owned unit, and were able to do a points conversion with it. Probably something that wouldn't be possible today.
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Very strange! I wonder if it's like the Club Destin arrangement which was under discussion a year or so ago when Wyndham ended that relationship.
 
TUGBrian said:
im betting...that THEY are betting.... this covers 99.9% of other owners as well...
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But it can sometimes only take that 0.1% of the owners to mess things up. It took only about 4% at Biscayne 21 to bring everything to a screeching halt.
 
comicbookman said:
I own there and have not heard anything either
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I own at Laurel Ridge in Fairfield Glade and received an email informing of a special HOA meeting and vote to sell the property scheduled for 10/9 at 1pm CT. I posted a week or so ago but easy to see how it could be missed among 3,000 or so others.
 
Greg G said:
Hmm, so you're saying that the unit you have was converted to points under Wyndham? So whenever you exchange it are you using Wyndham points and you can see this? I'm a little confused by your post
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No, the lady from the resort indicated her unit was in what they likely affectionately refer to as the "Vacation Break" building, however we know that many of the Wyndham units are spread out in other buildings, many of which are likely named something else, and those buildings are therefore majority owned by non-Wyndham timeshares or owners. I'd bet dollars to donuts that this unit or interval is actually part of the Wyndham HOA - and is therefore Wyndham owned. In other words, all of the hub-bub about a unit somehow being non-Wyndham yet somehow converted into Wyndham points is just banter - and not based in fact. This is why the impacted owners need to talk with the HOA - not the resort personnel. The HOA will have the correct ownership information for @regatta333
 
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Floridaman76 said:
That'a an interesting situation that you own a non-wyndham owned unit, and were able to do a points conversion with it. Probably something that wouldn't be possible today.
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I think what you mean is that they own in an HOA that isn't Wyndham controlled? A Wyndham owned unit would not also be owned by another owner. I understand Star Island has 10 HOAs, one of them is Wyndham controlled and voted for Chapter 11. I guess that just means it is the HOA where Wyndham owns most of the deeded intervals and those deeded intervals are part of CWA? Any of the other deeds part of that association that may not be in CWA are all converted weeks?
 
Jan M. said:
Good to know. Yesterday I tried to edit a response in a private conversation and got a message that there was a 5 minute limit to do that. Another time, I'm not sure in which forum, I seem to remember getting a message that there was 15 minute time limit to edit a post.

In the future if I want to edit something, I'll try before assuming I can't.
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This topic is documented in the TUG Help area here: https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/how-to-edit-your-post.38444/
 
dioxide45 said:
But it can sometimes only take that 0.1% of the owners to mess things up. It took only about 4% at Biscayne 21 to bring everything to a screeching halt.
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Which is why the bankruptcy approach is being used - it bypasses these types of concerns/issues for the most part.
 
Rolltydr said:
I own at Laurel Ridge in Fairfield Glade and received an email informing of a special HOA meeting and vote to sell the property scheduled for 10/9 at 1pm CT. I posted a week or so ago but easy to see how it could be missed among 3,000 or so others.
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Thanks for re-posting - I've updated our tracker.
 
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