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Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

Please point me toward the governing trust documentation that provides for this legal standpoint you’re referring to. Be specific.


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Hasn't it been stated multiple times in this thread that Wyndham can drop a resort at any time from the system? I could also ask you the same question, point to where the legal standpoint is supported that says Wyndham must continue to accept reservations into 2026 for club bookings.
 
few takeaway points from a conversation I had today with an industry source I trust.

1. I no longer expect ANY of these resorts to remain in operation as timeshares, period. to put it another way, the chances of any owners at these resorts retaining their existing timeshare ownership under Wyndham or any other timeshare entity is slim to none.

owners will likely be faced with two choices sometime in 2026:

1. wait out the process and cross your fingers the resort properties get sold and you get a cut of the proceeds after the bankruptcy process completes (meanwhile youd still have to pay your 2026 fees)
2. accept a cwa transfer when offered if you wish to remain a Wyndham timeshare owner.
3. not pay your 2026 fees and wash your hands of it all.

2. I don't expect this arbitrary deadline of 12/31/25 to remain in place. now what happens on 1/1/2026 remains to be seen, but the idea that all these resorts are even going to complete the necessary/legal processes and procedures to prepare and proceed with bankruptcy/sale/etc within the next few months is a pipe dream. honestly I have no idea where this drop dead date came from, but I dont see it sticking given the things that would need to be sorted out before then.


The main reason for my opinions changing on this rely on the timeshare replacement laws that would force Wyndham to provide equal interval replacements into the system for any weeks/points/intervals they sold/removed. This however apparently does NOT apply if the resort itself declares bankruptcy and is sold as part of that process. As such, this entire strategy makes way more sense as there would be no financial benefit to wyndham trying to sell these resorts as is(nor any benefit to a 3rd party BUYING the resorts as is, as they would have to take the bad debt and all wyndham owned inventory as part of the sale). This would also allow the disposal of any/all developer owned inventory and maintenance fee obligations. a win win for Wyndham....notsomuch for the owners at these resorts though!
I know I am replying to an older post in the thread, but I was thinking more about this. I am curious what replacement laws exist? Reading up on this some more, I understand that the replacement requirements are part of the trust and really just to compensate owners whose properties are being closed and removed from the system with equivalent points. Wyndham already seems willing to do that by providing owners with CWA points free of charge. So they seem to have met the trust's replacement requirements. Where are there laws stating they need to replace a property that was removed with a different property? When the closed properties in the past, did they replace it will another property?
 
IMO if the resorts can inform the employees of the resort that they should be aware the resort is closing/etc on 1/1/2026.... there is no valid reason at this point to not inform the owners of the possibility they wont be able to check in after 1/1/2026.

even if you decided not to make the announcement to EVERY owner, reaching out to anyone with an existing reservation for 2026 seems fairly prudent to me.
Seriously, the current message to owners should be “I can’t give you details, but let’s just say that every employee at this resort has been informed they’re out of a job after 12/31/25 <wink>.” It’s true, it seems legal to make public, problem solved!
 
According to the Wyndham missive, it will not be honored, as only reservations up through the end of 2025 will be honored. I would not count on these reservations being honored, make alternate arrangements. There's a 95% chance that regardless of the resort disposition specifics and timelines, Wyndham is going to remove the impacted resorts from Club Wyndham effective 12/31/2025. Be prepared to live with disappointment if you're hoping this is all going to somehow work out to your advantage.
I agree I think all reservations in 2026 are almost certainly not happening, but that’s not what the missive says. It is completely silent on the issue of 2026 reservations. One might infer that they will not be honored - or one might infer that it’s not yet determined, or that it might vary from resort to resort. The reason we infer that it means that only 2025 reservations will be honored and not 2026 is because we are also aware of credible information that is also not stated anywhere by Wyndham - that employees at all of those resorts have been told their jobs are ending on 12/31/2025 because the resorts are closing (as well as unofficial confirmations from other sources inside Wyndham, I assume). If someone wasn’t aware of that independent information, I don’t think the inference that 2026 reservations will definitely not be honored because Wyndham’s page only mentions 2025 reservations is that obvious.
 
Per an owner on Facebook:
“Received an email today from Wyndham requesting we sign a proxy ballot for them to proceed with bankruptcy of Fairfield Bay.
Was not surprised about this. Just didn't expect it this soon.”

I had to chuckle about “this soon” given the current discussions over here.
 
Yeah, definitely nobody has booked Bently Brook over the winter skiing months this year.

Wrong, I am an owner there and just heard of this yesterday. I have booked there and have friends coming also. Why is there the usual amount of availability there on their calendar?
 
I agree I think all reservations in 2026 are almost certainly not happening, but that’s not what the missive says. It is completely silent on the issue of 2026 reservations. One might infer that they will not be honored - or one might infer that it’s not yet determined, or that it might vary from resort to resort. The reason we infer that it means that only 2025 reservations will be honored and not 2026 is because we are also aware of credible information that is also not stated anywhere by Wyndham - that employees at all of those resorts have been told their jobs are ending on 12/31/2025 because the resorts are closing (as well as unofficial confirmations from other sources inside Wyndham, I assume). If someone wasn’t aware of that independent information, I don’t think the inference that 2026 reservations will definitely not be honored because Wyndham’s page only mentions 2025 reservations is that obvious.

I disagree, this is the exact verbiage in the communication:

“You can expect the same level of incredible vacations during this transition. If you have already made a reservation at one of these resorts, don’t worry. All existing reservations will be honored through the end of 2025.

Bolded emphasis mine. It does NOT say all reservations will be honored through the end of 2026. It is clear to me that all reservations at the impacted resorts will only be honored through the end of 2025.


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I have a question about the CWA maintenance fee after all is said and done with the legacy resort closures.

It is my understanding the CWA maintenance fee is based on the average MFs of all Club Wyndham resorts in the CWA trust. If so, do you think the CWA MF will increase, decrease or remain the same following the closure of the legacy resorts?
 
I received an email yesterday from Wyndham about Fairfield Bay. Attached is a ballot regarding Chapter 11 bankruptcy.


We will be signing and hoping this gets settled soon.
Per an owner on Facebook:
“Received an email today from Wyndham requesting we sign a proxy ballot for them to proceed with bankruptcy of Fairfield Bay.
Was not surprised about this. Just didn't expect it this soon.”

I had to chuckle about “this soon” given the current discussions over here.
Well Chuckles, that was petty. Didn't think I had to spell it out.
We did not expect to be contacted until the end of the year or first part of 2026.
 
I have a question about the CWA maintenance fee after all is said and done with the legacy resort closures.

It is my understanding the CWA maintenance fee is based on the average MFs of all Club Wyndham resorts in the CWA trust. If so, do you think the CWA MF will increase, decrease or remain the same following the closure of the legacy resorts?
Given the size of the CWA trust, I wouldn't expect it to have any significant impact on fees when evaluating on $/1000.
 
That's a really ridiculousky inaccurate take. It really is.

Yeah, definitely nobody has booked Bently Brook over the winter skiing months this year.

Your post is extremely dismissive of people who HAVE made plans and are unaware this is ocurring. And by the time this is announced, their ability to book at the resorts which will still exist, and also make travel arrangements will be extremely limited.
We have book Thanksgiving and Christmas week at Bentley Brook.
 
Wrong, I am an owner there and just heard of this yesterday. I have booked there and have friends coming also. Why is there the usual amount of availability there on their calendar?
I'm fairly certain, given the context where they made that statement in response to another, that it was sarcasm and not what they actually believe.
 
Yes, for the small percentage of the total ownership who are active either here on TUG or on the Facebook groups. I'm fine. I made my backup reservation on July 12. But there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of owners who have no idea. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm advocating for them, because they're obviously not here to do so.
Even the ones who are being advised to have a back up plan who are active in Facebook groups won't do it because it has not come from Wyndham and they are not going to change their plans based on "rumors". Some have even gotten downright nasty about it, and all I tell myself is well you can't help someone who does not want to help themselves.
 
Wrong, I am an owner there and just heard of this yesterday. I have booked there and have friends coming also. Why is there the usual amount of availability there on their calendar?

I was being sarcastic in that statement. Another owner rollyman or whatever was saying nobody goes to these resorts that are closing...

Many people have countered the "nobody goes to these resorts that are closing" by stating that some of them (BB, Jamestown, etc) are often at capacity, especially during peak season
 
Even the ones who are being advised to have a back up plan who are active in Facebook groups won't do it because it has not come from Wyndham and they are not going to change their plans based on "rumors". Some have even gotten downright nasty about it, and all I tell myself is well you can't help someone who does not want to help themselves.

I'm.the one who several days ago advised people to make other plans and posted the list in two of the Facebook groups. Yes, Im getting blow back from some people. I can put up with it because people who knew nothing about what's going on are seeing my posts.

@paxsarah has been great about backing me up to help counteract the comments by people foolish enough to be in denial. Or those who are insisting everyone should wait for Wyndham to make the announcement if it really is true.

The other day I posted here in this thread about not having sympathy for the deniers when their 2026 reservations get cancelled and they're freaking out. Subsequent posts by other people made me think about how many people have no idea about any of this..Hence those FB posts; my good deed for the day, lol. I've taken additional time to answer some questions. And to respond to a few of the negative commenters.

In the posts I recommended people find TUG and read the first post in this thread.
 
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I received an email yesterday from Wyndham about Fairfield Bay. Attached is a ballot regarding Chapter 11 bankruptcy.


We will be signing and hoping this gets settled soon.

Well Chuckles, that was petty. Didn't think I had to spell it out.
We did not expect to be contacted until the end of the year or first part of 2026.
I didn’t mean to be petty. By all reliable reports, all of these resorts are expected to be closed to all Club Wyndham owners as of December 31, 2025, and the last however many pages of discussion on this TUG thread have largely centered on how late on the year it is and how little official information has been shared by Wyndham at this point given that we’re only 3.5 months away from multiple resort closures. With a sub discussion about how even though there is a core group of diehards here who may know what’s going on, the vast majority of owners have received zero information about this situation. So it was in that context that I had to chuckle a little at the situation because while you thought it was so soon, the discussion here has been that it’s very, very late. It’s not your fault that you didn’t have prior knowledge of the aggressive timeline, but it’s just an example of the lack of official communication we’ve been discussing here for pages and pages.
 
I'm.the one who several days ago advised people to make other plans and posted the list in two of the Facebook groups. Yes, Im getting blow back from some people. I can put up with it because people who knew nothing about what's going on are seeing my posts.

@paxsarah has been great about backing me up to help counteract the comments by people foolish enough to be in denial. Or those who are insisting everyone should wait for Wyndham to make the announcement if it really is true.

I posted here in this thread the other day about not having sympathy for the deniers when their 2026 reservations get cancelled and they're freaking out. Subsequent posts by other people made me think about how many people have no idea about any of this..Hence those posts; my good deed for the day, lol. I've taken additional time to answer some questions. And to respond to a few of the negative commenters.

In the posts I recommended people find TUG and read the first post in this thread.
Same. I also noticed posts being deleted from those groups that mention resorts closing.
 
Given the size of the CWA trust, I wouldn't expect it to have any significant impact on fees when evaluating on $/1000.
Although something that hadn’t occurred to me until now is that once these resorts presumably do sell, the CWA trust should receive its share of the proceeds like any deeded owner, no? If so, I’d assume that may reflect in the maintenance fees a year or two down the road the way that special assessments at CWA resorts do.
 
Although something that hadn’t occurred to me until now is that once these resorts presumably do sell, the CWA trust should receive its share of the proceeds like any deeded owner, no? If so, I’d assume that may reflect in the maintenance fees a year or two down the road the way that special assessments at CWA resorts do.

I would assume the opposite.

Any profits from sale will have zero impact on MF, but rather will go straight to Wyndham's bottom line.

Now, on the other hand, removing some of these "high MF resorts" from the trust, in theory, should have some downward impact on total costs, and in theory should allow MF to be lowered, but that remains to be seen.

Companies CAN and WILL do everything in their powers to minimize taxes, and sales on real property trigger capital gains taxes. So Wyndham will likely try to minimize that by making all kinds of borderline illegal deductions to minimize those profits, and hence, capital gains. But regardless, Wydham making money off the sales won't have impact on MF.
 
I was being sarcastic in that statement. Another owner rollyman or whatever was saying nobody goes to these resorts that are closing...

Many people have countered the "nobody goes to these resorts that are closing" by stating that some of them (BB, Jamestown, etc) are often at capacity, especially during peak season
It's not that nobody goes to the resorts that are closing, it was stated that SOME of the resorts that are closing have very low overall owner occupancy.
 
Although something that hadn’t occurred to me until now is that once these resorts presumably do sell, the CWA trust should receive its share of the proceeds like any deeded owner, no? If so, I’d assume that may reflect in the maintenance fees a year or two down the road the way that special assessments at CWA resorts do.

I hadn't thought of that until you mentioned it. If that's the case I would think we'd see a reduction in CWA maintenance fees. I speculated the resorts leaving would at least keep the maintenance fees from going up the for one year the typical twenty some to thirty some cents they gone up for the last 12 years.

I have no idea how the CWA trust is structured. If Wyndham declares a loss on some, and perhaps their own in house legal fees, could any gains on the others be eaten up or even funneled elsewhere? With businesses it's not hard to manipulate numbers to make them show what you want.
 
It's not that nobody goes to the resorts that are closing, it was stated that SOME of the resorts that are closing have very low overall owner occupancy.
I’ve repeatedly said “low owner occupancy” but he apparently doesn’t understand there is a difference in a broad base of owners using their resort for it’s intended purpose, opposed to a few owners running an illegal rental business.
 
I'm.the one who several days ago advised people to make other plans and posted the list in two of the Facebook groups. Yes, Im getting blow back from some people. I can put up with it because people who knew nothing about what's going on are seeing my posts.

@paxsarah has been great about backing me up to help counteract the comments by people foolish enough to be in denial. Or those who are insisting everyone should wait for Wyndham to make the announcement if it really is true.

I posted here in this thread the other day about not having sympathy for the deniers when their 2026 reservations get cancelled and they're freaking out. Subsequent posts by other people made me think about how many people have no idea about any of this..Hence those posts; my good deed for the day, lol. I've taken additional time to answer some questions. And to respond to a few of the negative commenters.

In the posts I recommended people find TUG and read the first post in this thread.

@Richelle is also front and center on many of those same posts in support - and she is on the same bi-weekly meetings with Wyndham corporate that I’m on asking questions and seeking answers to questions posted on the FB groups and here on TUG. We don’t always get the answers we want, or that we can share publicly, but we try our best to represent the concerns of impacted owners and obtain better information that we can circulate indirectly, however the fact that none of us work for Wyndham does by definition mean anything we share is inherently unofficial and will likely always be taken with a grain of salt, and I cannot blame anyone for doing so really. I would likely do the same thing as a born skeptic type.


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