Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

[hjsweet2002]

Wyndham has a majority on Bentley Brook HOA

 

[paxsarah]

I see no inventory at OIRC after12/31/25. Are we happy now

I assume then that the results of yesterday's HOA meeting were to suspend occupancy and reservations at OIRC after 12/31. I'm satisfied that it only took 24 hours for Wyndham to implement the booking restriction. My April reservation, however, has not yet been canceled.

 

[Double U]

I assume then that the results of yesterday's HOA meeting were to suspend occupancy and reservations at OIRC after 12/31. I'm satisfied that it only took 24 hours for Wyndham to implement the booking restriction. My April reservation, however, has not yet been canceled.

If true, this is how fast you can expect this gig to go down! Like lightning!

 

[HitchHiker71]

Wyndham has a majority on Bentley Brook HOA

Wyndham holds a majority on most of the HOA BODs IME.


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[hjsweet2002]

Bottom line is that as 12/31/2025 the resorts will have no availability and everyone should cancel any reservations after that date.

 

[dioxide45]

Bottom line is that as 12/31/2025 the resorts will have no availability and everyone should cancel any reservations after that date.

Problem is that most owners have no clue the resorts are even closing.

 

[Floridaman76]

Bottom line is that as 12/31/2025 the resorts will have no availability and everyone should cancel any reservations after that date.

AND that should be communicated... you know, so PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS COMING and their planned vacation is not destroyed at the last minute.

 

[HitchHiker71]

AND that should be communicated... you know, so PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS COMING and their planned vacation is not destroyed at the last minute.

On that much we are in violent agreement.


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[Floridaman76]

On that much we are in violent agreement.

It just seems WYN is trying to have it both ways, and hide behind legalese and be immune from the impending backlash from owners.

And it's just not happening. There's going to be HUGE financial impacts to travellers which cannot be ignored. Wouldn't be surprised if lawsuits come up over it.

Obviously the people who know, can and at least SHOULD be making alternate plans. But the people who don't, who I think we all would agree is the majority of the affected parties, are going to be PISSED. This isn't something they will just easily forget.

That's why I brought up probably a month ago, when this all goes down, they need to do everything in their powers to try to make it right. Bonus points, free vacation, SOMETHING. But people potentially have non-refundable airline tickets or tickets where their may be a substantial change fees PLUS the fact that tickets booking in October/November/December will cost more and be scarce.

It's going to be a mess...

 

[Floridaman76]

Re: the 12/31 date probably has a HUGE tax savings if they can pull it off too. That's probably the driver behind it. Also CY26 contracts / weeks could be nullified if the timeshare operations cease by that date.

 

[paxsarah]

I’m also one of only a select few on this entire thread who is actually working directly with Wyndham to understand both sides explicitly

That’s what happens when you’re the gatekeeper of corporate contacts other owners don’t have access to. It’s lonely at the top.

 

[HitchHiker71]

That’s what happens when you’re the gatekeeper of corporate contacts other owners don’t have access to. It’s lonely at the top.

If I can do it anyone can really, they simply choose not to, or just plain don’t have the interest. I’m not special by any means, despite what my wife would say about me.

Still, given the prodigious amount of posts that many on this forum have accumulated over many years, if they put half as much effort into building relationships with Wyndham as opposed to complaining about Wyndham, they’d likely have superseded whatever I’ve been able to do given my professional commitments and constraints.


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[HitchHiker71]

Re: the 12/31 date probably has a HUGE tax savings if they can pull it off too. That's probably the driver behind it. Also CY26 contracts / weeks could be nullified if the timeshare operations cease by that date.

That’s why I said there are fiscal motivators in addition to the procedural motivators all associated to the calendar year end goal.


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[geist1223]

So starting January 1, 2026 there will be approximately the same number of members chasing fewer resorts and units. Wih a large percentage of the Membership caught unaware and angry.

 

[Floridaman76]

That’s what happens when you’re the gatekeeper of corporate contacts other owners don’t have access to. It’s lonely at the top.

Maybe RENTER can be his backup!

He can bring a, um, different perspective to the table. The Quorum of 130 or whatever can have their grievances heard.

 

[Floridaman76]

So starting January 1, 2026 there will be approximately the same number of members chasing fewer resorts and units. Wih a large percentage of the Membership caught unaware and angry.

Which I said on July 14th:

I've been saying this all along, ripple effects are far reaching:
1. Fewer resorts for roughly the same number of owners to compete for
2. Resorts with lower points values being removed, vacations at the remaining resort options will cost more vs what was there before
3. Resorts in specific area where there are no other (Wyndham) alternatives nearby mean staying in a hotel, or dealing with RCI or AirBNB to do the same vacation
4. More people in CWA means more people will now have 13 month ARP, they will be fighting for deeded owners at 13 months at resorts which have both CWA and CWS inventory
5. Fewer resorts means booking inside the discount or upgrade windows will be much harder, if not impossible
6. I believe this sets a bad precedent and template on how they can remove other resorts from the system arbitrarily, cheapening our ownership

That's just a handful of the issues and I do not see how this can be spun as any positive thing for owners.

Basically the ONLY people these changes help are:
- Wyndham
- People who own at one of these resorts who were looking to get out anyway

In most cases, people being force transitioned from their deeded property to CWA are getting the shaft from a MF perspective. In a few cases, they are lower, but I think that's the minority

 

[paxsarah]

If I can do it anyone can really, they simply choose not to, or just plain don’t have the interest.

I think you’re underestimating the hurdles to getting a toe in the door in the first place for someone whose only contact at Wyndham is the phone number on the cover of the directory. It’s tough to build relationships when the only corporate staff you know are a rotating cast of first names in a call center. You don’t have to aw shucks your access - own it.

 

[HitchHiker71]

So starting January 1, 2026 there will be approximately the same number of members chasing fewer resorts and units. Wih a large percentage of the Membership caught unaware and angry.

Probably not the same number of members, as some percentage of impacted owners will exit Wyndham during these actions as has been evidenced on this thread. What is that percentage? No idea. Probably low - 10-20% range best guess. Then there’s the fact that a good proportion of these resorts supposedly had low owner occupancy, which means the actual members weren’t staying at these resorts for the most part. That’s another way of saying these members were already chasing “fewer” or more popular resorts anyways, and that most of these older resorts likely had a higher rental occupancy rate.

At a macro layer however, net net, we will be left with fewer resorts for the membership base. Some have theorized that Wyndham has another timeshare acquisition waiting in the wings with overlap to the impacted resort locations - or a subset thereof. I tend to doubt that theory, but anything is possible I suppose.


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[comicbookman]

At a macro layer however, net net, we will be left with fewer resorts for the membership base. Some have theorized that Wyndham has another timeshare acquisition waiting in the wings with overlap to the impacted resort locations - or a subset thereof. I tend to doubt that theory, but anything is possible I suppose.

It would mitigate the PR fallout if true. I do agree that it is unlikely though.

 

[northovr]

I have 3 reservation at Shawnee for 2026 and they still won't tell me if they will be honored. Even worse one is MLK weekend in January. I understand they may not know everything because the HOA's have to vote but this entire situation should have been addressed in the Spring not late Fall.

I doubt they will be honored

Daniel

 

[HitchHiker71]

It would mitigate the PR fallout if true. I do agree that it is unlikely though.

For a moment, let's assume it's true and play this out a bit. It may indeed help from a PR standpoint. But, realistically, day one, nothing changes, since the newly acquired timeshare system will remain intact as a separate entity and Wyndham must adhere to that timeshare's bylaws and rules, much like the Shell Vacation Club (SVC) acquisition. Over time, Wyndham will make every attempt to convert ownerships from that timeshare system into Wyndham owners, just as they did with SVC. That process takes a good amount of time though, and has limited success, given even today, availability for Wyndham owners at any of the SVC resorts is hit or miss IME - since it's likely only a minority of the SVC ownership base has actually bought into Wyndham and had their SVC inventory exchanged and/or made available via CWA or one of the other trust based Wyndham ownerships. Again, based upon the limits of the acquired timeshare bylaws and governing documents, perhaps Club Pass could be offered between the newly acquired timeshare system and Club Wyndham. Overall though, even if we assume this does play out, it's not a solution that immediately replaces the lost inventory from the pending resort exits. It's a partial solution at best.

 

[HitchHiker71]

I have 3 reservation at Shawnee for 2026 and they still won't tell me if they will be honored. Even worse one is MLK weekend in January. I understand they may not know everything because the HOA's have to vote but this entire situation should have been addressed in the Spring not late Fall.

According to the Wyndham missive, it will not be honored, as only reservations up through the end of 2025 will be honored. I would not count on these reservations being honored, make alternate arrangements. There's a 95% chance that regardless of the resort disposition specifics and timelines, Wyndham is going to remove the impacted resorts from Club Wyndham effective 12/31/2025. Be prepared to live with disappointment if you're hoping this is all going to somehow work out to your advantage.

 

[comicbookman]

For a moment, let's assume it's true and play this out a bit. It may indeed help from a PR standpoint. But, realistically, day one, nothing changes, since the newly acquired timeshare system will remain intact as a separate entity and Wyndham must adhere to that timeshare's bylaws and rules, much like the Shell Vacation Club (SVC) acquisition. Over time, Wyndham will make every attempt to convert ownerships from that timeshare system into Wyndham owners, just as they did with SVC. That process takes a good amount of time though, and has limited success, given even today, availability for Wyndham owners at any of the SVC resorts is hit or miss IME - since it's likely only a minority of the SVC ownership base has actually bought into Wyndham and had their SVC inventory exchanged and/or made available via CWA or one of the other trust based Wyndham ownerships. Again, based upon the limits of the acquired timeshare bylaws and governing documents, perhaps Club Pass could be offered between the newly acquired timeshare system and Club Wyndham. Overall though, even if we assume this does play out, it's not a solution that immediately replaces the lost inventory from the pending resort exits. It's a partial solution at best.

I agree with your assessment. I was thinking more as a mitigation through distraction.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Two more questions:
2. I have 2026 reservations for the summer of 2026 in SC using the points based on the OIRC converted fixed week. Will they honor those reservations, and just put the club access points "behind" them to back them up? ie Will my 2026 vacation actually happen?

thank you,
Teresa

The answer to this question is that, provided you accept the 1:1 CWA points swap for your OIRC contract, the reservation will not be impacted in any way. So yes Wyndham will perform a 1:1 points swap in the system, at no cost, after you sign the required paperwork, and your 2026 vacation will remain intact.

 

[HitchHiker71]

I would like to know how Wyndham would handle reservations made with 2026 points at resorts that are not closing from a converted week at a resort that they stop managing at the end of this year if the offer to convert to CWA is not accepted by the owner. These reservations include ones that were already taken this year and ones that are still scheduled for next year. This is a specific question in general and should not depend upon an HOA vote having taken place yet. It is an issue they should be prepared for, already have a plan in place to handle, and should be willing to answer at this point.

I was not able to get a definitive answer on this question today. There will be an update from Wyndham in October, best estimate, that will provide an explicit contact phone number and/or email address for these types of questions, the answers to which will vary dependent upon the structure of each owner's account ownership of course.

I was also able to confirm that the OIRC vote did transpire, as we know, and that the availability was blocked off the day after the vote occurred not only endorsing the bankruptcy proceedings, but more specifically, the vote on how to handle resort operations endorsing a resort shutdown effective 12/31/2025. I also checked the MAC for OIRC, and I confirmed that all dates after 12/31/2025 are blocked off. Someone before mentioned everything after 12/17/2025 was blocked off, however I saw spotty availability up through 12/28/2025 on the MAC, so the 12/17/2025 date was not accurate.