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Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

Arimaas said:
Was just thinking, folks owning at impacted resorts may want to take screen shots of your account dashboard so you have some record of your points and reservations as we get closer and closer to the end of the year.
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Given Wyndham IT’s general competence we may all want to do this regardless of whether we own at the impacted resorts. I can’t imagine exiting 14 resorts worth of points from the online system all at the same time is going to go smoothly.
 
Reviews on TripAdvisor of Wyndham Orlando on International Drive, which will likely be closed, are some of worst that I have ever seen.

Recent photos are not nice. It seems that the nicer photos are over five years old.

It also appears that ever since last June most, if not all of the reviews, were from non-members and would average only 1.1 stars instead of the 3 stars being shown.

 
CO skier said:
Truly, a legend in his own mind. :LOL::LOL::LOL:
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yes, he is a legend to us. A guy who made Wyndham a lot of money while getting the rest of us free trips and vacations while giving our guests low-cost vacations and also teaching us a simple way to invest in the stock market matching the market with no rollercoaster rides.

That 102 may grow because he was giving advice to owners last night who met him for the first time and took his contact info. However, he was telling non-owners who were interested in doing the same not to do it because Wyndham can no longer be trusted not to change the rules on them.

So, enjoy your 3 laughs and all your other laughs over the past few years. I have approx 100,000 last laughs ignoring someone like you and listening to him. That is how much I approx earned over the past 4 years ignoring your advice and after I saved on lodging and invested those savings in the stock market. That is just for the past 4 years when those letters first came out and I started arguing with you. Since I started listening to him closer to $500,000.
 
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Floridaman76 said:
you aren't even an owner, i'm not sure why you are so vested in this conversation.
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Here is a real gasser. My status might change in the near future, because I am under contract for a converted-to-points 2 bedroom premium ski week in Building 008 at Bentley Brook. That, at least, is how the estoppel from Wyndham reads. We shall see.

My main interest is the voting materials. It will be very tight timing for this to fully transfer in Club Wyndham by the end of the year. The voting materials are likely mailed to owners from a list compiled by Wyndham, not the HOA Board of Directors, so it is a long shot that I will see the voting materials. I will, supposedly, receive a copy of the recorded deed (if that proves to be the ownership type) in 60-90 days. Maybe I can contact the BB HOA directly for voting materials, if I make the deadline as the owner of record.

For $151 all-in, I will get a ticket to the field for how this all plays out at one of the resorts affected. I will “take one for the team” and report in this thread how things progress.

Will turn out something along these lines?
Sandi Bo said:
In 2016 I purchased Bentley Brook (resale) using a broker. Jumped through all the hoops, we were all the way to the point where the transfer was sent to Wyndham. And this happened (from the broker): I apologize for any inconvenience this causes, Wyndham informed us that the current owner of the timeshare you purchased has already cancelled the contract without informing us.

Wonder if Wyndham has been collecting them for awhile? It was shady then, and look at what's going on now.
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or perhaps this? (I did not buy this to swap it for CWA) I want a front row seat for how the whole thing plays out.
Floridaman76 said:
And the elephant in the room is Wyndham corporate is going to milk out as much money out of this process as they can to not have to make a payout to deedholers that dare defy them and not take their Access points in swap.

They likely have internal companies or wholly owned contractor divisions they can pay to do the work, it's all monopoly money at that point, and without anyone guarding the henhouse, and no competitive bidding process, these fees can be however high they want them to be so that, ooops, everything "balances out" and the payout is... nothing, or if they wanted to get devious, "in the red".
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Worst case as I see it, is that the week is in some different system going forward, and I own a premium ski week, and the maintenance fees to go with it, at a ski-in/ski-out resort.

If somehow the whole thing goes south, well … I have lost bigger in Vegas.

The renovated units look very nice, although the living room color scheme is a bit gaudy for my taste.

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Roger830 said:
Bentley Book also has fixed weeks. There's a points listing on ebay and a fixed week 17 2-bed on ebay completed listings not sold.
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Thanks for this posting. I looked into it as a result. My offer on an eBay auction for Bentley Brook that had expired (not one of those two, though) without any bidding interest was accepted, and now I may have a ticket to ride.
 
CO skier said:
Thanks for this posting. I looked into it as a result. My offer on an eBay auction for Bentley Brook that had expired (not one of those two, though) without any bidding interest was accepted, and now I may have a ticket to ride.
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Full disclosure, I saw that ebay auction that poster is referring to, it was going to be $1 all in, seller pays transfer and closing. I considered buying it juse to either get a potential payout or possibly get some developer access points out of it to increase my VIP level.

But there was so much uncetainty I passed. I didn't want to get potentially hit with a MF bill January 1 and it wipe out any potential benefits.

If you are going about this that way just to get Access, there's definitely better ways to do that.
 
Roger830 said:
Reviews on TripAdvisor of Wyndham Orlando on International Drive, which will likely be closed, are some of worst that I have ever seen.

Recent photos are not nice. It seems that the nicer photos are over five years old.

It also appears that ever since last June most, if not all of the reviews, were from non-members and would average only 1.1 stars instead of the 3 stars being shown.

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I've stayed there and honestly it's probably the least impressive of ANY Wyndham resort I have stayed at. My particular unit was clean, and in good order, but just so dated and the "resort" itself is a joke.

There's plenty of excess capacity in the Orlando area and with the exception of it's proximity to Universal, it has nothing going for it. It's a distant 5/5 in terms of which Orlando area resort you should be looking at.
 
RENTER said:
Today was a very emotional day. I am at Skyline this weekend. I asked about New Years Eve and they told me they shutting the doors on New Years Eve and reservations will be cancelled .

I also shared with the staff the posts responding to meet defending Skyline. Like me they said it was BS that the resort is not busy and no one wants to come.

Also here were 27 of the 102. One of them was the guy many of you dislike and many of you think I am him thanks to him drawing attention to him and not the rest of us. The guy we chose to listen to and ignore many of you. The guy who taught us how to rent and organize into a group to help each other and keep Wyndham off our backs by drawing the attention to him

You may have noticed him unless you're one those who claim to be here all the time and don't see the resort being busy or owners wanting to be here. If you do not notice that, then you probably did not notice him pushing his 94-year-old mom's service dog in a blue shopping cart behind her electric wheelchair.

It was emotional enough talking to the staff who became our friends and always came thru for us. But tonight in the activities area was really emotional. Over the years we became one big family. Tonight they had a 7-man jazz band who were excellent. I sat there and watched my Wyndham family laugh, dance and enjoy themselves.

Then we put our lives at risk as some of you claim and walked to Oceans Resort to watch the fireworks and drone show and got back safely without being attacked.

The closing off this resort is not a financial to me and the others. Thanks to our leader who told us to ignore many of you, we made our money back, had free trips while helping others.

It is an emotional issue as a piece off our life with fond memories is taking away
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you are starting to sound like a bad AI. As floridaman76 said, if what you have been saying is even remotely true, then you and your secret little group are most likely to blame for the demise of some of these locations, particularly Skyline. You played games and skirted the rules, resulting in low owner occupancy stats and that is what Wyndham is using as an excuse at some of the departing resorts to punt them from the system. It is unlikely to be a coincidence that more than one of the resorts leaving are on your list of resorts you play around with. SO, stop whining and telling us how smart you are and please just go away.
 
RENTER said:
savings in the stock market. That is just for the past 4 years when those letters first came out and I started arguing with you. Since I started listening to him closer to $500,000.
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And you also get a guaranteed 10 percent return on your market holdings every year too per your previous comments, right? It’s no wonder you’re making so much money doing this.
 
Floridaman76 said:
There's plenty of excess capacity in the Orlando area and with the exception of it's proximity to Universal,
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It would be amazing if Universal got into the timeshare game in some form.
 
CO skier said:
Here is the part of the post you missed:
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Aren’t you risking Wyndham screwing up your account though? I mean, you’re going to try to get them to transfer it around the same time they are deleting it from the system. That seems risky to me. Yes, legally you’ll be the owner of that week once the deed is transferred to you, but who the heck knows what kind of mischief that could cause.
 
CO skier said:
2024 Bentley Brook maintenance fees, using $181 as the minimum program fee

($118.32 * 12 minus $181) divided by 164.5k = $7.53 by my calculation.
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I have 154,000 points deeded at BB my maintenance fees for 2025 are $956.28 and the reserve fund $431.16 property taxes $13.92
 
Roger830 said:
Reviews on TripAdvisor of Wyndham Orlando on International Drive, which will likely be closed, are some of worst that I have ever seen.

Recent photos are not nice. It seems that the nicer photos are over five years old.

It also appears that ever since last June most, if not all of the reviews, were from non-members and would average only 1.1 stars instead of the 3 stars being shown.

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Makes sense. Why renovate when liquidation is involved? If recently renovated, why? You may not lose anything yet?!
 
hnybee09 said:
I have 154,000 points deeded at BB my maintenance fees for 2025 are $956.28 and the reserve fund $431.16 property taxes $13.92
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That works out to $9.10/1000 which is $1.17 difference from what the Wyndham estoppel calculates to in 2024. Something does not add up.

Does the $956.28 include the program fee? If the (estimated) 2024 program fee $181 is add to my calculation for 2024, it works out to $8.63/1000, which would be more in line with the 2025 calculation. For purposes of comparison in this thread, though, cost/1000 is calculated without the program fee included.

Does anyone know if the monthly maintenance fee listed on a Wyndham estoppel includes the program fee?

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Folks need to keep this on topic and avoid the nonsense....this thread is going to get crazy enough without people engaged in their own personal arguments.
 
Fido Chuckwagon said:
Aren’t you risking Wyndham screwing up your account though? I mean, you’re going to try to get them to transfer it around the same time they are deleting it from the system. That seems risky to me. Yes, legally you’ll be the owner of that week once the deed is transferred to you, but who the heck knows what kind of mischief that could cause.
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There are risks, some that I have thought of and some that may come as a surprise. I could not think of a risk too much to take on, so I thought, "Well, wth."

Too late now, anyway.
 
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