Thank you! So one has to make a reservation first. Is it a one way street? I mean can I cancel the reservation later and elect points if the window hasn’t closed yet.
Yes, you can cancel a weeks based reservation and elect Club Points instead as long as you are not past the election deadline. However, once you deposit a week into II, that action is final. You can't get it back later and you can't cancel it and elect Club Points.
If enrolled there would be no charge to cancel or change a week because it's enrolled but that could change in the future and I suspect it will at least for lower tiers. Once you elect points that is a final transaction. I just did that this week by email, canceled a current reservation and elected points at the same time.
True to some degree but not necessarily at the same time. If one has an enrolled week listed in II you can potentially see inventory sitting online even without a reservation, how is another discoussion. And if one has points they can see currently available inventory there as well but without a valid reservation or sufficient points, you can't actually complete an exchange so you really can't leverage both at the same time. In II there is also the concept of trade power so just because you're searching with a Marriott you may not see all inventory that's available using weeks. Points adjusts this by having different points requirements for different options. Remember that most of the good stuff goes to On Going Searches esp outside the 60 day window.
No that's not correct. II uses a trade power system where they're trying to match up like for like and even for M to M trades, this is still in place. So no, you may not see all Marriott related inventory even if it's sitting there. Further with an OGS they may skip over you and let that week go to a non Marriott exchange request if you don't have sufficient trade power. It does seem to me this has been less of an issue since they started charging for unit size upgrade. Successful exchanging is done when you're realistic, get the best week possible for deposit, request early and are as flexible as possible. Don't expect to get the pinnacle exchanges, if you do, celebrate. There are 3 ways to trade up in exchanging including unit size, demand and resort quality. I try to hit at lest 2 of these variables for every exchange and often hit all 3. I often shoot for the moon but never expect to hit it and when I do, it's a great day. You can get greedy in your requests but always have a back up plan and give yourself options.
No I am not even there yet. I am just saying if II has a Marriott week (deposited by Marriott or other legacy week owners) in its inventory, is it even “visible” to pure bound points owners even if they have plenty of points? I believe abound owners cannot trade into II Marriott weeks with a fixed grid. Its blocked! Yet, an enrolled week owner can opt for week to week exchange, and with enough trading power, he should be able to grab it. That’s what I mean enrolled week owners see two Marriott inventories. No?
Here's how I think of it:
You cannot exchange into an Abound resort on II using Abound points directly or a placeholder week derived from your points that MVC deposits into II for a week exchange.
Any week can grab MVC inventory in II- enrolled and unenrolled MVC weeks see the same inventory in II.
It was I who posted that deal and it was a one off but even then the fees were too. high IMO to make it reasonable. Better to pay more up front or the same for less points for a better week and have much lower fees.
To answer the question "What is the window to elect club points?" It is Jan 2 two years in advance of the start of the year that the week can be used, through June 30-Oct 31 of the year prior to the week - depending on your status. (I've always had to call owner services to elect at this early date) through since the website had not been updated for the new year yet.
Yeah I’m with you and I’m not denying the value of resale and unenrolled legacy weeks. Yet they don’t see abound inventories which trust points do and an enrolled week is a better solution.
Not to side track this thread, but the deal I am about to complete from Spain is buying a 2BDM Silver Week in Marbella for $10,600, which enrolls with 2225 MVC points, along with 1100 bonus points for use in 2026 and 2027. Maintenance fees appear to translate into .75 USD per point. The price per point is around $4.75. While we liked our recent stay in Marbella, we don't envision us going back unless through a Getaway or Accomodation Certificate trade in during shoulder season. We needed 1200 points to reach Executive Level and have been trying to get there but the resale market hasn't been working for us. If I pushed harder in hindsight, I think I could have negotiated more bonus points but we're generally pleased with this and the Marbella salesman was a straight-shooter.
I don't know if this is what you are asking, but you can't trade Club Points for Marriott or Vistana resorts through II. So anyone with Abound Club Points won't see Marriott or Vistana weeks in II. As for seeing both as you are asking. It is a two step process. If someone has an enrolled week, they can try to trade through II. Or they can also opt to elect Club Points to reserve a points reservation. You don't really see both at the same time.
Yeah, what you are describing is exactly “seeing both at the same time” - you have the option to go either way.
You get a lot more value out of exchanging a week on II- especially if you lock off and get 2 trips for one maintenance fee.