Should I buy a Hyatt Resale

[ScoopKona]

We have ruled out Sunset Harbor. Being close to the action on Duval for 7 nights or however long we stay is not that high of importance to us.

Another question, in reviewing the resale listings is there any advantages of one over the other for Friday/Saturday/Sunday check-in, or is just personal preference?

Check in day is just personal preference. I like Friday check ins because you can get things done Friday afternoon/evening, and often on Saturday. All the best markets are usually closed on Sunday.

From the sounds of it, what you really want is Windward with a dock. (Doesn't exist.) Beach House is great. I own there. But the dock is "iffy." If you're coming for Lobster Mini Season, forget it. Most of the rest of the year, I'd call it "a coin flip."

Windward has the easiest parking situation and it's also the easiest for people who want to head to Old Town and then head back. South Roosevelt Boulevard is a lazy bike ride to the Southernmost point, and then up Whitehead St. to "where the action is." I much prefer getting from Old Town to Windward over Old Town to Beach House.

North Roosevelt is like cheese-gone-south -- just keeps getting worse with age. At the tail end of when I lived there, I'd take South Roosevelt or Flagler east, and then one of the handful of connecting streets to get me closest to my destination (which because of logistics was almost never Winn Dixie).

 

[Kal]

Thank you again for all the great input. I was not aware of dock availability at the Beach House. That will weigh into our decision. I was pricing transient slips at a few of the local marinas. The higher MF at Beach House compared to Windward Pt would be offset by not paying a private marina if a slip at the Hyatt is available.

Does anyone have experience on the first come first serve use of the dock, and calling ahead?
How does it work, any additional fees?

As for parking, those rates are reasonable for a week. As mentioned above, we live in So Florida so we will never be flying into Key West.
Coconut Pt and the Key West properties are the most convenient for us. Because we can drive, bringing our own bikes to get around the island is easy. We have experienced the nightmare parking and drivers firsthand so don't need the headache of that while on vacation.

We have ruled out Sunset Harbor. Being close to the action on Duval for 7 nights or however long we stay is not that high of importance to us.

Another question, in reviewing the resale listings is there any advantages of one over the other for Friday/Saturday/Sunday check-in, or is just personal preference?

Windward and the Beach House are only 2 BR. That takes away the option of saving points by staying in a 1 BR or Studio.

 

[SeaRay24]

Can anyone familiar with Windward Point let me know about the outdoor patios on the first floor units? I did a google image search and haven't found anything with a close up shot showing the first floor. They all highlight the higher floors.

Is there a full railing that prevents you from walking to pool deck or stopping someone from coming directly to your slider from the common area?
All units have outdoor dining table and chairs?
Doesn't appear that any unit is screened in regardless of floor?

Thank you.

 

[rdc]

Yes, enclosed balcony with surrounding plantings, but screens (at least since my last stay). Only Beach House has(had) screens.

 

[SunandFun83]

Your best approach is to buy a week at a resort where you would want to stay. And that should be during the general timeframe when you would want to be there. That gives you a full set of options. If all else fails, you can stay at your owned resort week.

You know Florida seasons and weather so that gives you a leg up. Now you need to do a deep dive on the 3 Key West properties. Take a look at your lifestyle as that will quickly narrow the choices. The Beach House is very good for young children while Sunset Harbor is not a kid friendly place. Old Town and Sunset Harbor is really perfect for restaurants, bars, shopping and adult things. Windward Pointe is "remote" and away from any kind of action. It's the newest of the three and the design is quite nice. A car would be important at Windward but parking in Old Town is a disaster.

The ball's in your court so check your pulse and come back with questions.

Standard advice is buy where you want to stay
Rent at each resort to learn what you like
Buy 2,200 points if you ever want internal exchange
Never trust a timeshare salesperson, never
80% of posts regarding Hyatt Portfolio Points are owners saying they were tricked, lied to and unhappy.
Orlando is not a place you use your Hyatt points. The place is drowning in excess timeshare inventory and Interval Getaways

Specific to Hyatt: Kal and Wendy are the most knowledgeable. 50% of owners are talking out of school. (ScoopKona says they are liars, I just warn you that 50% are not very smart or suffering from cognitive dissonance)

 

[SeaRay24]

Great Info. I am basically following that advice.
No desire to have a timeshare in Orlando. In the off chance we need a week, we will use the getaways or deposit points into Interval.

 

[4Reliefnow]

I have a Pinion Point week 16 (2,200 points) and Coconut weeks 7 and 8 listed for sale on TUG and Redweek

 

[Tucsonadventurer]

Florida timeshares are risky due to frequent hurricanes. We own Beach House and are paying around 2500 for 2200 pts. I much prefer our Pinion Point timeshares but if you think you will stay there often it may be worth it. We rarely stay where we own and never the week we own. We use most of our pts to exchange in Maui and occasionally Colorado for summers.

 

[AJCts411]

Depending on your detention of frequent, Hurricanes are not so frequent...

1. 1950: Hurricanes Easy and King passed west of the Dry Tortugas in the Lower Keys, with winds of 105 mph.
2. 1960: Hurricane Donna caused significant damage in Marathon, destroying several subdivisions.
3. 1965: Hurricane Betsy brought widespread flooding and debris to the Keys, blocking the U.S. 1 highway to the mainland.
4. 1992: Hurricane Andrew slammed North Key Largo, knocking out power lines and affecting the islands.
5. 1998: Hurricane Georges ripped through Cudjoe Key with a 10- to 12-foot storm surge, cutting off water and electricity and flooding hundreds of homes.
6. 2005: Hurricane Wilma prompted a mandatory evacuation of the Keys.
7. 2017: Hurricane Irma made landfall on Cudjoe Key, causing significant damage and power outages. The storm surge was estimated to be around 8 feet in the hardest-hit areas.

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[GTLINZ]

Depending on your detention of frequent, Hurricanes are not so frequent...

1. 1950: Hurricanes Easy and King passed west of the Dry Tortugas in the Lower Keys, with winds of 105 mph.
2. 1960: Hurricane Donna caused significant damage in Marathon, destroying several subdivisions.
3. 1965: Hurricane Betsy brought widespread flooding and debris to the Keys, blocking the U.S. 1 highway to the mainland.
4. 1992: Hurricane Andrew slammed North Key Largo, knocking out power lines and affecting the islands.
5. 1998: Hurricane Georges ripped through Cudjoe Key with a 10- to 12-foot storm surge, cutting off water and electricity and flooding hundreds of homes.
6. 2005: Hurricane Wilma prompted a mandatory evacuation of the Keys.
7. 2017: Hurricane Irma made landfall on Cudjoe Key, causing significant damage and power outages. The storm surge was estimated to be around 8 feet in the hardest-hit areas.

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Not sure why you are focusing on the Keys only.

I visit Coconut Plantation often and it was hit hard by Ian, and sustained damage from Helene and Milton. As soon as they got the beach opened after Ian, Helene and Milton helped make sure it as damaged again. I know Helene caused me to cancel a trip ilast Oct due to the storm surge causing pool and lazy river damage.

Florida has been getting mauled the last few years,

 

[AJCts411]

Not sure why you are focusing on the Keys only.

I visit Coconut Plantation often and it was hit hard by Ian, and sustained damage from Helene and Milton. As soon as they got the beach opened after Ian, Helene and Milton helped make sure it as damaged again. I know Helene caused me to cancel a trip ilast Oct due to the storm surge causing pool and lazy river damage.

Florida has been getting mauled the last few years,

Since it was posted Windward and Beach House...Key West.

 

[Angelique]

Hi there, I just sent you a DM with my phone number, so you are welcome to call me. I would love to share our Hyatt experience with you. I am not selling anything, haha.

Hi Steve,
I just bought a Hyatt Vacation Club membership at the Ranahan in Breckenridge CO 16K for 120K points every other year plus 160K bonus points..
I can still cancel the contract. I want to find out how easy/difficult it is to book a week during ski season in CO or Utah at a Hyatt property and if there are better cheaper options than to stay in the contract.. I’ve been reading the form posts but it’s hard to understand all the variety of points people are mentioning.
Thank you very much for your opinion in advance!!
Martina

 

[mjm1]

Hi Steve,
I just bought a Hyatt Vacation Club membership at the Ranahan in Breckenridge CO 16K for 120K points every other year plus 160K bonus points..
I can still cancel the contract. I want to find out how easy/difficult it is to book a week during ski season in CO or Utah at a Hyatt property and if there are better cheaper options than to stay in the contract.. I’ve been reading the form posts but it’s hard to understand all the variety of points people are mentioning.
Thank you very much for your opinion in advance!!
Martina

What you bought is the old Welk system Resort in Breck. The first recommendation is to rescind your purchase right away while you can. Research and then buy the best property/system to fit your needs. You will save a ton of money.

 

[Angelique]

What you bought is the old Welk system Resort in Breck. The first recommendation is to rescind your purchase right away while you can. Research and then buy the best property/system to fit your needs. You will save a ton of money.

Thank you, very much appreciate the feedback!

 

[GTLINZ]

It is rare that a developer purchase is a good thing, so i would agree about rescending asap. You only have a very short period of time to rescind and paying too much can bring regret for a lifetime. I hope you are not past that period.

There should be instructions in your packet, but basically everyone who signed to contract needs to sign a request to stop/rescind your contract. You must mail your request by the deadline with proof of postage, and you may be able to also email (do both to be sure).

I cannot count how many threads are about rescinding. Here is a recent sample with some more details. I would act quickly.

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[andre10056]

I attempted to purchase a week at Windward Point but Hyatt exercised their ROFR.

Might you share with us the details of the transaction which resulted in Hyatt exercising its right of first refusal?

 

[SteveinHNL]

Hi, Angelique. So sorry for the late reply but you received excellent advice to go ahead and rescind. If you love the Welk system (now Hyatt Vacation Club) be sure you understand the properties that are included, how the points and seasons work, and of course, you should be able to find lots of points available for a very low cost if you purchase resale!!

 

[Cynful]

We stayed at Beach House and loved it. The parking is free for one vehicle and you park under your building. There are beach sport rentals on the same stretch of beach which was cool as we rented wave runners. Also there is a bus stop for the Shuttle that goes downtown withing 5 minutes walking from BH. I loved the tropical vibe of the pool area and we spent a couple of days just lounging around it. Also loved the screened in balconies, NO BUGS. We went with another couple and had a great Key West Experience.

 

[boraxo]

Study this forum carefully and feel free to reach out to individuals. There are many things that I did not know even after reading these forums that I wish I had known before buying.

TLDR: Hyatt is great if you use your weeks. Hyatt internal trading is mixed depending on your needs and timing. Peak season Hawaii is very difficult. Ski resorts are easy except for Xmas. Buying fixed weeks resale is the best deal - avoid the points system and never buy from the HVC sales team!

 

[shoeslover05]

Hi there, I just sent you a DM with my phone number, so you are welcome to call me. I would love to share our Hyatt experience with you. I am not selling anything, haha.

OMG, can I call you too lol. I am also interested in HVC pts, but I have so many questions and have scanned this forum for answers. Please help. ;-)

 

[shoeslover05]

Study this forum carefully and feel free to reach out to individuals. There are many things that I did not know even after reading these forums that I wish I had known before buying.

TLDR: Hyatt is great if you use your weeks. Hyatt internal trading is mixed depending on your needs and timing. Peak season Hawaii is very difficult. Ski resorts are easy except for Xmas. Buying fixed weeks resale is the best deal - avoid the points system and never buy from the HVC sales team!

Hi, can you clarify "avoid the points system"? I thought HVC is all on points now? Thank you!

 

[Sugarcubesea]

Hello,

I am looking for advice in purchasing a Hyatt fixed week. Most likely a property in Key West.

Here is some background information to help you guide us in our decision. I will be retiring this year and my wife will retire within the next few years. She has great flexibility in her job with taking time off. We have two children that are in college for a few more years. We live in Florida and enjoy vacationing in other parts Florida, we are not locked into taking vacations only during certain times of the year.

We have stayed at the Hyatt Hotel at Coconut Point multiple times. On one visit we were approached to return and visit the timeshare resort down the road for a few nights at a great price. During that stay we really enjoyed the comfort of an apartment style accommodation over a traditional hotel room. We didn't purchase but they offered us to return for a longer stay at another incredible price. It was way less than what we could have booked at the hotel. We just returned from that trip and had a better time than the previous time. On this visit they gave us a 2 bedroom unit. Our daughter joined us with her friend and we all had a great time. We had to sit through the presentation again but opted not to purchase (so glad we didn't, I did not do my due diligence research before attending. They were offering 450 points for around 10k. They would have been useless). Before leaving, they offered us another 4 night stay at a great price. We plan to visit Key West using this package.

I have read how Interval International has devalued the Hyatt owners points/ownership. While this is concerning, it's hard for me to be mad at something I wasn't able to take of advantage of in the past.

So I am currently in the market for a diamond week in Key West that equates to 2200 points. From my research, Maui is diamond year round. How easy is it to internal trade into Maui? Coming from Florida, a Hawaii trip would probably be once every 5 years or so.

How easy will it be to break up the points and stay at Coconut Point and Key West for 3-4 nights midweek and only pay one maintenance fee for the year?

With 2200 points, what kind of property can you get in Orlando area via Interval?

Of the 3 Hyatt Key West properties, which one is considered the nicest? Advantages from one over another?

I attempted to purchase a week at Windward Point but Hyatt exercised their ROFR.

I appreciate your advice.

@SeaRay24 , I wanted to add to my earlier comments as why we love owning at Hyatt Beach House, Key West. We own a deeded week in the Heritage Collection. The season we purchased is Diamond as it gives us 2,200 points which allows us to have a 2 bedroom unit.

We wanted the Beach House because I love that it has a zero-entry pool, an on-site beach, and a Tiki Bar. It's also easy to trade internally within Hyatt. I like to be away from the action so this is why I choose this resort over the other Key West locations

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[mjm1]

Hi, can you clarify "avoid the points system"? I thought HVC is all on points now? Thank you!

@boraxo was referring to the Hyatt Portfolio Program. Buy a resale week at one of the original Hyatt resorts (Heritage program) and stay there or make internal trades for other Hyatt resorts. The Portfolio program is more expensive from a purchase perspective and maintenance fee perspective.

 

[andre10056]

Hi, can you clarify "avoid the points system"? I thought HVC is all on points now? Thank you!

Hi shoeslover05,

I'm not sure that it's been made clear to you what the portfolio system entails. And I can't help you there because I own a deeded "legacy" week.

So, first, what do I own? I own a week 49 at Hyatt Windward Pointe. It happens to be an every other year, even year timeshare. There are timeshares that are "every other year" or "EOY". There are timeshares that are every year or "annual". The maintenance fee last time I paid it in 2024 was ballpark $2000.

What does a week 49 mean? It means it's a Gold week. Why is a deeded week 49 a Gold week? Because Hyatt has determined that week 49's traveler demand is Gold according to the following schedule:

https://www.atimeshare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/POINTSCHART.pdf

Scroll down under Windward Pointe and you'll see all Windward Pointe Gold weeks include weeks 22, 31, 40-43, 45-46, and 48-50. All Gold weeks are allocated 1880 Hyatt points to use to possibly trade into other Gold weeks at your home resort or trade into Gold weeks at other resorts. Or you can "spend" your 1880 points by getting partial weeks at the same resort or other Hyatt resorts. Scrutinize that POINTSCHART to see how that might work.

In any case, as I understand it, Hyatt has been trying to switch all legacy weeks into Portfolio weeks. In effect, from what I understand, they want to convert what Legacy owners have to a new points-based system involving (I've heard) tens of thousands of points according to a different schedule. I don't feel any compulsion to change because my type of ownership has been OK by me.

I contacted a timeshare salesperson at Fidelity Real Estate named Angie Edwards and she suggested I wait to sell next year because Hyatt is allegedly eager to get people out of their legacy weeks, and will next year be making attractive offers to them. Obviously, I don't know if that's true.

Why do I like my ownership? I like that it's EOY in that I'm not Mr. Constant Traveler so every two years is fine, particularly since I only pay a maintenance fee every two years and not every year. I like Hyatt Windward Pointe because it's a stunningly beautiful, spacious resort across from a wide oceanfront sidewalk, perfect for bike riding.

And now I'm eager to explore scooter riding a la what some visitors to Windward Pointe did on Youtube:

When I choose to visit the resort during week 49 or 50, that's prime time Christmas season when there are some or all of the following depending on the week:

Santa Con pub crawl

Key West Christmas parade

10K run

all manner of Christmas-oriented parties

Key West and/or Stock Island Lighted Boat parades

For the first time ever, I exchanged my week into Interval International because I was curious what I could get for it. I learned that Interval International gives you the same 1880 points as II points. And also that each II search shows you precisely what any available trade will "cost" in terms of points. I used 1850 of my 1880 points to get the following:

-an August 2025 Disney Vacation Club Animal Kingdom Kidani, 1 BR Villa, the most desirable Savanna view

-a Christmas week 2025 Marriott Custom House in Boston

I think that's about $7000 in retail rental value but, if I'm wrong about that, anyone feel free to correct me.

I still have 30 points to spend within two years which I guess I can add to the new 1880 points I will be awarded for 2026.

I have no idea what you might get for the tens of thousands of Portfolio points but I suspect not as much in light of Hyatt seeking to dilute the value of one's Legacy ownership via conversion to that newer system.

PS Someone asked if the Hyatt Windward Pointe 1st floor units were ground floor patio units. No, as my photo and the Youtube video show, the 1st floor units are some amount of feet above ground level.

 

[SeaRay24]

Might you share with us the details of the transaction which resulted in Hyatt exercising its right of first refusal?

Apologies, I missed this post from March.
The details of the ROFR were: Hyatt Windward Pt, Week 20, 2000 points, winning bid was $595.
This was in May 2024.