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Chase Boundless Bold Card, Elite bonus works for MF?

Steve Fatula

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This card has an elite level bonus. For each $1, I get:

3 pts + 10 pts for being Bonvoy member + 7.5 pts for being Titanium, yielding 20.5 points/dollar. That's 20% at 1 cent per point that I get.

So, my question is, does paying MF work for that bonus on this particular card? I know it does on many other cards, but wondering if I can get 20.5 x MF on this card.

Here's the page that specifies this: https://creditcards.chase.com/marriott/cardmember/bold
 
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Is there a fee for having this Chase Boundless Bold Card?
 
$95/year, oops, below posters correct, is $0, wrong card.
 
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Just 6X for MF for Boundless card. $95 is for Boundless card. Bold card does not have MF. Based on the chart, Bold gets 3X for MF.
 
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Bold card has no annual fee and only get 3X on Marriott spend. (Including maintenance fees)

Boundless card is $95 annual fee and get 6X on Marriott spend, and includes an annual free night certificate up to 35,000 points. Also earns 1 ENC for every 5K in total spend.

I have the boundless card. I always get more than $95 just out of the free night so the card is free in my mind.

So Marriott hotel spend gets
10X from Marriott
7.5X Titanium bonus
6X Boundless card

Total of 23.5 points per dollar on hotel spend.

Maintenance fees are just the 6X as you don’t earn the 10 from Marriott or the titanium bonus on that.
 
Yeah, didn't get it for MF, converting to Ritz card was the reason (since it has fee just had to hold for a year). Just noticed bonus so was curious, thanks! Won't be charging MF to it then. Actually, never noticed bonus of 10x, lol.
 
3 pts + 10 pts for being Bonvoy member + 7.5 pts for being Titanium, yielding 20.5 points/dollar. That's 20% at 1 cent per point that I get.
The 10pt and 7.5pt are for cash spend and stays at Bonvoy hotel properties. This wouldn't apply for simple maintenance fee payments. These cards like to also include the benefits that come along with just plain old Bonvoy membership.
 
The 10pt and 7.5pt are for cash spend and stays at Bonvoy hotel properties. This wouldn't apply for simple maintenance fee payments. These cards like to also include the benefits that come along with just plain old Bonvoy membership.
Yeah, never noticed, I don't play with hotels too much. But for hotel stays, 20+ points depending on card per dollar sure seems high. $1,000 = 20,000 points or more = $200 or more. Am I missing something?
 
Yeah, never noticed, I don't play with hotels too much. But for hotel stays, 20+ points depending on card per dollar sure seems high. $1,000 = 20,000 points or more = $200 or more. Am I missing something?

Yeah it’s an excellent return on hotel spend to be sure! You really can’t beat what amounts to ~20% back!
 
Yeah, never noticed, I don't play with hotels too much. But for hotel stays, 20+ points depending on card per dollar sure seems high. $1,000 = 20,000 points or more = $200 or more. Am I missing something?
The issue is that in our 2 most recent stays at Desert Springs Villas 1, none of the spending at the Marketplace or golf shop counted towards any bonus points. Most of the shops are run by third party vendors and Marriott does not recognize those spendings.
 
Yeah, never noticed, I don't play with hotels too much. But for hotel stays, 20+ points depending on card per dollar sure seems high. $1,000 = 20,000 points or more = $200 or more. Am I missing something?
If you are just paying cash and not using any of the credit cards at a Marriott property, you would earn the 10 base points. Silver member gets 11, Gold gets 12.5, Platinum gets 15 and Titanium gets 17.5 points per dollar spend. The extra 3 points per dollar in your scenario above comes with the Bold card. Thee Brilliant would get 23.5 total. It is really easier to just think of the card points separately. Bold gets 3 points per dollar and Brilliant gets 6 points per dollar on Marriott hotel spending.
 
If you are just paying cash and not using any of the credit cards at a Marriott property, you would earn the 10 base points. Silver member gets 11, Gold gets 12.5, Platinum gets 15 and Titanium gets 17.5 points per dollar spend. The extra 3 points per dollar in your scenario above comes with the Bold card. Thee Brilliant would get 23.5 total. It is really easier to just think of the card points separately. Bold gets 3 points per dollar and Brilliant gets 6 points per dollar on Marriott hotel spending.
That's it! So, just paying cash, I'd still get the 17.5 cents, so, only the other part is additional with the credit card. Makes more sense. Still, didn't realize I got so much for hotel stays.
 
What is the best Marriott card for MF? Are they all equal? I have the brilliant but I still get confused with regards to how exactly they calculate it
 
What is the best Marriott card for MF? Are they all equal? I have the brilliant but I still get confused with regards to how exactly they calculate it

The Brilliant ($695), Ritz ($450), Bevy ($250), Bountiful ($250), Business ($125) and Boundless ($95) all earn 6X on Maintenance Fees. The Bold ($0) earns 3X.
 
The Brilliant ($695), Ritz ($450), Bevy ($250), Bountiful ($250), Business ($125) and Boundless ($95) all earn 6X on Maintenance Fees. The Bold ($0) earns 3X.


And the old Chase Marriott Premier card ($85 w 25K annual free cert) earns 5x on Marriott spend and MFs.
 
The regular Amex Marriott Bonvoy card with $95 annual fee, which they no longer offer earns 6X on MF. Their Amex Marriott Bonvoy Bevy card with $250 annual fee, also earns 6X on MF.
 
The issue is that in our 2 most recent stays at Desert Springs Villas 1, none of the spending at the Marketplace or golf shop counted towards any bonus points. Most of the shops are run by third party vendors and Marriott does not recognize those spendings.
Did you charge it to the room? We've always received the points we charge at Marketplace, the grills, golf at Grande Vista, etc. Or is it specific to DSV 1?
 
Did you charge it to the room? We've always received the points we charge at Marketplace, the grills, golf at Grande Vista, etc. Or is it specific to DSV 1?
Yes, everything was charged to the room and appeared on the folio. Maybe specific to DSV 1. I think it has something to do with whether a 3rd party vendor owns the establishment.
 
Oh! I can partially answer my own question. I already paid for the destination points dues with my card and I see online on the chase portal, I got 6x points. This suggests to me it's likely when I pay my weeks HOA dues I will get 6x points as well. But I am interested in hearing from others please on this question, please? :)
 
The Brilliant ($695), Ritz ($450), Bevy ($250), Bountiful ($250), Business ($125) and Boundless ($95) all earn 6X on Maintenance Fees. The Bold ($0) earns 3X.

Some if these cards have a hefty annual fee. Are they worth it?

In a recent blog post Frequent Miler used the expression “Bonvoyed” to represent a negative experience with loyalty programs this year.


In our 20+ years we’ve earned and redeemed many points. Enough for both of us to get Lifetime Gold with American Airlines with 1M miles/each transferred from Marriott Rewards/Bonvoy. We are also both Lifetime Platinum/Titanium from the loyalty program.

My current opinion of the program is the loyalty comes primarily from the customer, not the corporation. I no longer see “The Marriott Way” practiced like it once was when we first purchased.

As owners we have seen promises of benefits clawed back. For example, the initial rental program went from 50/50 to 65/35 to maybe/maybe not. Personal Owner Services agent disappeared. Point redemptions became so inflated that turning in your week for Rewards points became a joke. Hotel + air redemptions disappeared. Chairman level was promised single day reservations but some resorts are given permission to block this. We get many Suite Night Upgrades but often the hotel says they don’t have the inventory to use them. Regular upgrades are hit and miss.

My current grievance is the inflation of point redemptions vs. cash price for hotels. I have been looking at hotels in Switzerland and Austria and the value per $ is coming out $.002 to $.0089. That’s a terrible redemption rate! You’d do better with a 2% cash back card.

For this reason I’ve been wondering if it wouldn’t be better to earn Chase Ultimate Reward points or Amex points where a minimum redemption is $.015? Sure, it would only be 2x or 3x points per $ but those points can be transferred to programs that offer a much better redemption rate. Most points/mile bloggers say look for $.015 or higher.

Yes, as Titanium we get 17.5x points for items charged to the room but the reality is items from Marketplace are overpriced and most cafes at resorts are low quality fast food. We buy these in a pinch.

We have the Chase Marriott card ($95) and Amex Marriott card ($95) for the annual free night which we use while driving from Michigan to timeshares on Hilton Head and Florida. We don’t stay at properties that require 85k points/night so we don’t need the high annual fee cards. I certainly wouldn’t confine high end stays just within the Marriott brand.

Are there others who have switched to paying maintenance fees with cards other than Marriott’s?
 
My current grievance is the inflation of point redemptions vs. cash price for hotels. I have been looking at hotels in Switzerland and Austria and the value per $ is coming out $.002 to $.0089. That’s a terrible redemption rate! You’d do better with a 2% cash back card.

Are there others who have switched to paying maintenance fees with cards other than Marriott’s?

I've actually seen the reverse...the value of my Bonvoy points has increased since ~2022. I'm still getting at least a penny a point for my Bonvoy points...and sometimes a bit better (most recently I made a reservation at ~1.5 cents a point in Savannah). Now I understand that this increase of value has been because cash rates have skyrocketed even faster than Bonvoy redemption rates...but such is life. And I also see some of those absurd redemption values (particularly in Europe) and leave wondering why anyone would ever redeem at that price.

So no, I still use my $95/yr Bonvoy cards for MFs quite happily.
 
I see the value of redemption as actually increasing with my limited experience. I "happened" to book at the right time about a month ago for a March stay. I booked 7 nights at St Regis in Singapore and it required 266K Bonvoy points. I was able to add points to my two 35K certificate when reserving and it took only 196K Bonvoy points from my account. It has since gone up to about 350K to redeem for the room during the same period but I am not using this new point requirement. It costs about USD3,350 for cash stay.

My cost was $95+$95 (for the 2 credit cards membership) + 196K Bonvoy points, which results in about 1.7 per point value for the 196K Bonvoy points.

If I use Points Guy's valuation of .007 cents, I am looking at my cost of $190+$1,372 = $1,562 to book a $3,350 stay. I get their famous breakfast thrown in for free because I am Titanium elite. That's really good redemption value.
 
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I see the value of redemption as actually increasing with my limited experience. I "happened" to book at the right time about a month ago for a March stay. I booked 7 nights at St Regis in Singapore and it required 266K Bonvoy points. I was able to add points to my two 35K certificate when reserving and it took only 196K Bonvoy points from my account. It has since gone up to about 350K to redeem for the room during the same period but I am not using this new point requirement. It costs about USD3,350 for cash stay.

My cost was $95+$95 (for the 2 credit cards membership) + 196K Bonvoy points, which results in about 1.7 per point value. for the 196K Bonvoy points.

If I use Points Guy's valuation of .007 cents, I am looking at my cost of $190+$1,372 = $1,562 to book a $3,350 stay. I get their famous breakfast thrown in for free because I am Titanium elite. That's really good redemption value.
How were you able to book using the 2 certificates together with the points stay in one reservation ? I did not know one could do that as I usually have to book the certificates separately from each other and the points giving me 3 reservations.
 
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