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Airline Games: United Changed Our Flights

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We plan to take United to Amsterdam & back this Summer. Well...
They just increased our return layover in Chicago from 5 to 7 hours.
I know, it's not much, but it is enuff for a reroute or cancellation. Yeah!
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I've already booked a better flight with a return layover of 3.5 hours.
I would'a chosen it first, but was priced much higher at the time.
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This happens all the time. One of my flights to Europe later this year also had a similar change, and I simply contacted the carrier and changed it to a different time.


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my flight from honolulu to tokyo in june was cancelled altogether today. alternative was going thru guam with an overnight stopover . i was on the phone with united for almost 1.5 hours and got them to change to a similar direct flight on ANA
 
My flight from Honolulu to Tokyo in June was cancelled altogether today. Alternative was going thru Guam with an overnight stopover. I was on the phone with United for almost 1.5 hours and got them to change to a similar direct flight on ANA.
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My congratulations on your change. IME, it's both a hassle and an opportunity.

I was able change our flights online, and it was a vast improvement.
OTOH, last Summer, I had to "chat" with Delta on a Euro trip for ~2.5 hrs.
KLH was involved, so they called a specialist and he booked it 'manually'.
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Those long layovers are where the Chase United perk of club passes (and no fee for a checked bag) makes the $95 annual fee moot for me.
We have the converse dilemma flying back to CLE from ZRH with a very short connection time at ORD.
 
I routinely just book the cheapest flights with a routing that I can live with, knowing there is a 70% chance (at least in the last 3-4 years maybe even higher %) that the flights are going to change, then I use that to figure out what flights I want (not that I am offered) and call the airline to move me to those flights.

Don't just take what is offered, and don't call without first looking into your options. They are counting on you not knowing what is available and will put you on something less desirable.
 
United for some reason put us on a later flight from OGG to SFO. I was able to go in online and change it myself with no problems.
 
... We have the converse dilemma flying back to CLE from ZRH with a very short connection time at ORD.

I'd rather spend hours waiting than running thru an airport concourse.
For whatever reason, even with a reasonable layover, I'm often sprinting.
Nowadays, I assume the 1st leg will be 60 minutes late and factor that in.

BTW, in Zurich, I recommend the Lindt Home of Chocolate.
If you're into that sort of thing.

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I always book the least expensive flight with acceptable routing, knowing full well it’s unlikely we’ll actually fly that route.

Our ICT to SFO route was changed. The computer algorithm guessed our needs incorrectly so I went on line and was able to change it to something that worked for us. In the long run it’s an improvement since we’ll arrive mid day regather than around 5pm. I wasn’t looking forward to riding the BART when everyone was potentially getting off work.

Now if they’ll only change our overnight fight back home. I’d rather fly the early bird the next morning and book a hotel near SFO the night before. So far no such luck on that route.
 
I think a lot (most?) airlines are doing this. Before Christmas our DS booked flights from Toronto to Calgary for a family vacation this July. The cheapest option was YYZ>YEG>YYC with a 2hr layover in YEG. He figured 2 hrs wasn't bad with his 5 & 7 yr olds and since it would be lunch time they would hopefully spend most of that time eating lunch. This past weekend he got a notice that the flights had been changed and he would now have a 4hr layover. He clicked on unsatisfactory and got connected to an agent via website chat. DS explained keeping 2 young kids entertained for 4 hrs was not going to be fun. The agent said well the only alternative is to put you on a direct YYZ>YYC flight that leaves YYZ 30 mins after your original flight time. The agent also said that flight is now slightly cheaper so he would have a $56. credit. Money back, an extra 30 mins in the morning and a direct flight! Winner, winner!! :whooopie:


~Diane
 
... The agent said well the only alternative is to put you on a direct YYZ>YYC flight that leaves YYZ 30 mins after your original flight time. The agent also said that flight is now slightly cheaper so he would have a $56. credit. Money back, an extra 30 mins in the morning and a direct flight! Winner, winner!

Yeah. Their auto-rebook usually picks a worse flight.
They're saying no one else wants it, so we booked it for you.
Instead, it gives us an incentive to find a better flight.
 
Yeah. Their auto-rebook usually picks a worse flight.
They're saying no one else wants it, so we booked it for you.
Instead, it gives us an incentive to find a better flight.
What I’ve noticed they last several years, is the algorithm tends to book the closet departure time to your original departure time, and more often than not a later time. That’s what’s happened the last couple of flight changes we’ve experienced. With SWA we lost our crack of dawn departure and was rebooked later that morning. With American we lost our late morning flight and was booked an early afternoon departure. I think they go later to refuse e the possibility someone doesn’t get the notification. It’s better to show up early than show up late and miss the flight.

No algorithm is perfect. We often leave on the second flight of the day so we don’t have to drop our dogs off at the kennel the day before. So if the algorithm books us a little later, it usually works. Then there are times we book first class seats and price becomes more of an issue than flight times or routes. Our ICT to SFO was booked with price being more important than route, so it was a late afternoon route. When AA changed the route significantly enough we could rebook, we were able to snag our preferred route, which was an earlier flight but at a much higher price. Their algorithm didn’t work for us, but the ability to make our own change because they made changes worked well for us.

As time goes on we’ve had to learn and adapt to airline rules. We use to always fly coach class and routing weighed heavier in our decisions. At this point in our life, we’re flying first/business class more than we’ve ever flown (not always, let’s not get to crazy), and my thinking and priorities have changed. Price has become more important than finding the perfect routing or flying a particular carrier. In those situations I book what will work regardless of route and wait for the airline to make a change, then try to change to what our preferred route would have been if not for the price.

The ultimate test is going to be our Kauai flights next year. Routing from our home airport is never that great as it is, and many of AA’s routes have an overnight layover, either in Dallas, LAX or SFO (AA tends to be the least expensive first/business class when traveling west.) This is fine by us as we’re willing to leave the day before, but now we’ll toss in the preferred city for the overnight layover. Just another twist in the airline games.
 
United's algorithm moved us from a 1 p.m. departure to a 2 p.m. departure. Then that moved to a 3 p.m. departure. When I checked the 1 p.m. departure was there. So I changed it back.
 
American Airlines just changed my fall flight to Albuquerque notifying me of a 2h30m layover in DFW instead of 40m. If you click through to the AA Website from the email it has a note:
You’re confirmed on a new flight
You can change your flight at no charge. Change flight »

if you click on change flight it shows (in this case) all available current flight options available for original flight date to book online at no change in price.
This is the first time this option has showed up online for me.
 
American Airlines just changed my fall flight to Albuquerque notifying me of a 2h30m layover in DFW instead of 40m. If you click through to the AA Website from the email it has a note:
You’re confirmed on a new flight
You can change your flight at no charge. Change flight »

if you click on change flight it shows (in this case) all available current flight options available for original flight date to book online at no change in price.
This is the first time this option has showed up online for me.
40 minutes in DFW may be doable, but I wouldn't necessarily feel comfortable with that short of a layover.
 
I just got an email this morning omfeom Mokulele about our May flight from Molokai to Maui. It's leaving and arriving 35 minutes later than planned. It's still fine for us. We do have a connection on Hawaiian to get to the Big Island but we left plenty of time. First time we have has a time change on Mokulele. The 35 minute change is longer than the flight. :D
 
I just got an email this morning omfeom Mokulele about our May flight from Molokai to Maui. It's leaving and arriving 35 minutes later than planned. It's still fine for us. We do have a connection on Hawaiian to get to the Big Island but we left plenty of time. First time we have has a time change on Mokulele. The 35 minute change is longer than the flight. :D
I know this is a bit late and you probably cannot change, but flying from MKK to OGG and then OGG to KOA on Mokulele is outside of TSA with wonderful stressfree views going from Maui to Kona.
 
I know this is a bit late and you probably cannot change, but flying from MKK to OGG and then OGG to KOA on Mokulele is outside of TSA with wonderful stressfree views going from Maui to Kona.

I only did it that way because it was cheaper. I have a lot of Hawaiian miles so it was over $300 cheaper to use miles instead of taking Mokulele all the way to KOA.

I do like Mokulele flights though. It's like taking a site seeing tour flight. shaka
 
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