National Harbor Contract on eBay

[chapjim]

Two more entries in the "Good Luck" category:

Towers on the Grove 1,000,000 points for $10,000
Canterbury 616,000 points for $10,000

 

[WManning]

I rehomed two National Harbor contracts earlier this year. They were both out of our account in about 10 days under three months. That's from the time I received payment from the new owners until the points left our account.

I've used LT Transfers before so already had the sales agreement and contract details forms to send to the buyers. I also had our deeds, the VOIT/estoppel from Wyndham and the photos of our driver's licenses ready to send in along with the completed forms.

LT best in the business hands down. Looks like you had all your ducks in a row with the estoppel and copy of deed in hand. This saved you weeks if not more. LT will not move forward on a transfer without them. LT can get a copy of deed online in minutes at most locations but not National Harbor and the estoppel is hit or miss. If you request Wyndham to email the copy to you some times it can take a day but a week or longer is not uncommon.

 

[WManning]

Two more entries in the "Good Luck" category:

Towers on the Grove 1,000,000 points for $10,000
Canterbury 616,000 points for $10,000

If you don't ask you never know. I give them credit for trying!

 

[WManning]

I agree that the $650 closing cost and other fees had potential bidders thinking twice.

At $2425, this National Harbor eBay auction was an even better deal -- seller paid all closing costs, transfer costs, and maintenance fees until the transfer completed.

759,000 Wyndham Points. National Harbor Maryland Washington DC Timeshare | eBay

Wyndham Points - National Harbour. 759,000 Annual Wyndham Points, January Renewal. Wyndham National Harbor. You can settle in and enjoy the neighborhood, or use this resort as a springboard for experiencing the best of the nation's capital and all other Washington, D.C. area sites and attractions.

www.ebay.com

Any way to know for sure if high bidder with a (2) feedback or second (0) feedback closed on purchase? Not a bad all in price either way.

Bidder	Bid Amount	Bid Time
Highest Bidder8***nFeedback Score (2)	$2,425.00	7 Oct 2022 at 9:31:37am PDT
3***iFeedback Score (0)	$2,400.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:09:36pm PDT
3***iFeedback Score (0)	$2,325.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:09:04pm PDT
3***iFeedback Score (0)	$2,175.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:08:53pm PDT
7***9Feedback Score (10)	$2,100.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:08:43pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$2,050.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:02:34pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$1,900.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:02:30pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$1,750.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:02:18pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$1,675.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:02:14pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$1,625.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:02:05pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$1,550.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:01:56pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$1,400.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:01:52pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$1,325.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:01:49pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$1,250.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:01:43pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$1,100.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:01:39pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$1,025.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:01:34pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$990.00	7 Oct 2022 at 12:01:30pm PDT
9***8Feedback Score (8337)	$970.00	7 Oct 2022 at 10:51:26am PDT
9***8Feedback Score (8337)	$900.00	7 Oct 2022 at 10:51:15am PDT
9***8Feedback Score (8337)	$850.00	7 Oct 2022 at 10:51:09am PDT
9***8Feedback Score (8337)	$790.00	7 Oct 2022 at 10:51:02am PDT
9***8Feedback Score (8337)	$650.00	7 Oct 2022 at 10:50:56am PDT
s***9Feedback Score (61)	$551.01	7 Oct 2022 at 7:19:34am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$510.00	7 Oct 2022 at 7:01:37am PDT
s***9Feedback Score (61)	$500.00	7 Oct 2022 at 4:23:48am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$500.00	7 Oct 2022 at 7:01:30am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$470.00	7 Oct 2022 at 7:01:22am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$460.00	7 Oct 2022 at 7:01:15am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$450.00	6 Oct 2022 at 8:58:26am PDT
5***oFeedback Score (4)	$440.00	6 Oct 2022 at 9:36:09am PDT
5***oFeedback Score (4)	$430.00	5 Oct 2022 at 12:55:30am PDT
7***4Feedback Score (5)	$425.00	4 Oct 2022 at 8:52:03pm PDT
5***oFeedback Score (4)	$400.00	4 Oct 2022 at 4:37:21pm PDT
7***4Feedback Score (5)	$400.00	4 Oct 2022 at 8:51:58pm PDT
7***4Feedback Score (5)	$375.00	4 Oct 2022 at 8:51:53pm PDT
7***4Feedback Score (5)	$350.00	4 Oct 2022 at 8:51:49pm PDT
5***oFeedback Score (4)	$330.00	4 Oct 2022 at 4:37:05pm PDT
7***4Feedback Score (5)	$325.00	4 Oct 2022 at 8:51:43pm PDT
7***4Feedback Score (5)	$310.00	4 Oct 2022 at 4:21:30pm PDT
5***oFeedback Score (4)	$300.00	4 Oct 2022 at 9:47:25am PDT
7***4Feedback Score (5)	$300.00	4 Oct 2022 at 4:21:11pm PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$250.00	4 Oct 2022 at 9:45:49am PDT
5***oFeedback Score (4)	$200.00	4 Oct 2022 at 8:47:08am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$200.00	4 Oct 2022 at 9:45:39am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$150.00	4 Oct 2022 at 9:45:11am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$125.00	4 Oct 2022 at 9:45:00am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$108.00	4 Oct 2022 at 9:44:54am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$102.00	4 Oct 2022 at 9:44:37am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$75.00	4 Oct 2022 at 9:44:31am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$50.00	4 Oct 2022 at 9:44:28am PDT
r***rFeedback Score (13)	$25.00	4 Oct 2022 at 9:44:24am PDT
5***oFeedback Score (4)	$6.00	4 Oct 2022 at 8:28:41am PDT
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5***oFeedback Score (4)	$5.00	4 Oct 2022 at 8:28:27am PDT
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7***4Feedback Score (5)	$2.00	4 Oct 2022 at 8:27:12am PDT
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Starting price	$1.00	30 Sep 2022 at 12:09:37pm PDT

 

[lotus921v]

What are everybody’s predictions on that million point canterbury contract?

 

[CO skier]

What are everybody’s predictions on that million point canterbury contract?

My prediction is that is will not sell for $10,000+ like they did just a few years ago, before, you know, resale points not having VIP privileges.

 

[chapjim]

It's up to almost $3,000 this morning, with a day to go. $5,000??

The two big contracts with opening bids of $10,000 allow Best Offers. We'll never know the actual selling price.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Two more entries in the "Good Luck" category:

Towers on the Grove 1,000,000 points for $10,000
Canterbury 616,000 points for $10,000

Saw the TOTG contract yesterday - pricey - IIRC the MFs for TOTG are in the low $5.xx/1000 range before program fees? This resale contract appeals to me on some level simply because it's more useful to me than the 688.5k NH resale contract that I hold at present since we often stay at TOTG for a week or two every year for our primary beach vacation. That and the MB contracts all have RARP at the other MB resorts which is a nice thing to have - and IIRC TOTG has the lowest MFs of the MB Wyndham resorts. I'm watching it for now.

 

[chapjim]

Saw the TOTG contract yesterday - pricey - IIRC the MFs for TOTG are in the low $5.xx/1000 range before program fees? This resale contract appeals to me on some level simply because it's more useful to me than the 688.5k NH resale contract that I hold at present since we often stay at TOTG for a week or two every year for our primary beach vacation. That and the MB contracts all have RARP at the other MB resorts which is a nice thing to have - and IIRC TOTG has the lowest MFs of the MB Wyndham resorts. I'm watching it for now.

You can make an offer.

 

[lotus921v]

That million point canterbury went for CHEAP. $3253 including all closing costs. Congrats to that winner!

 

[paxsarah]

Two more entries in the "Good Luck" category:

Towers on the Grove 1,000,000 points for $10,000
Canterbury 616,000 points for $10,000

One more "good luck" listing - I had to read the fine print to figure out exactly what it was (because they're mostly touting their points in RCI that won't transfer), but it's Midtown 45, 200,000 points for $10,000 CAD. They must have been emboldened by all of those other high-priced listings!

 

[lotus921v]

One more "good luck" listing - I had to read the fine print to figure out exactly what it was (because they're mostly touting their points in RCI that won't transfer), but it's Midtown 45, 200,000 points for $10,000 CAD. They must have been emboldened by all of those other high-priced listings!

There’s a free 700k midtown 45 on timeshare nation right now

 

[CO skier]

Another "good luck" listing -- 1.3 M at Grand Desert for $9,999 plus $798 closing and transfer costs.

Did someone really pay retail for this at some point?

 

[TheHolleys87]

Another "good luck" listing -- 1.3 M at Grand Desert for $9,999 plus $798 closing and transfer costs.

Did someone really pay retail for this at some point?

If no one paid retail, how could there be resale?

(I know, rhetorical question.)

 

[sponger76]

If no one paid retail, how could there be resale?

(I know, rhetorical question.)

I think the same thing every time someone on TUG rails that nobody should ever purchase retail, that resale is the ONLY way timeshares should be purchased.

With that being said, I'm never purchasing retail ever again, resale only for me.

 

[paxsarah]

Another "good luck" listing -- 1.3 M at Grand Desert for $9,999 plus $798 closing and transfer costs.

Did someone really pay retail for this at some point?

It does make me wonder what the logic is behind buying a million+ retail contract that's not PR. At least in the defense of whoever originally purchased this one, Grand Desert's on the low end of MFs. But I don't really see the point in going all in on one giant non-PR contract.

I think the same thing every time someone on TUG rails that nobody should ever purchase retail, that resale is the ONLY way timeshares should be purchased.

I'm not sure that anybody here has said "nobody," because everyone here offering that advice is under no illusion that we're reaching more than a tiny fraction of Wyndham timeshare buyers/owners. Even if everyone who came to TUG only bought resale and never purchased retail again, it would probably not make a noticeable drop in the bucket of Wyndham sales.

 

[WManning]

That million point canterbury went for CHEAP. $3253 including all closing costs. Congrats to that winner!

I wouldn't be surprised if it is relisted or second chance is offered to 2nd bidder. 4th bidder looked solid.

 

[troy12n]

It does make me wonder what the logic is behind buying a million+ retail contract that's not PR. At least in the defense of whoever originally purchased this one, Grand Desert's on the low end of MFs. But I don't really see the point in going all in on one giant non-PR contract.

Well, I can tell you why... because a few people made their own little cottage industry of timeshare renting.

One such person has been obnoxiously complaining about how they bought 4.5 million points retail, some of which they didn't realize how bad the MF's were until the music stopped... and most of these people are in the process of unloading them now.

And then we have people who go from zero to 1.6 million resale and are trying to "not look like a renter", even though they are "giving" out weeks to their employees and constantly asking questions about how to game the system. But I digress. A lot of the rhetoric here lately doesn't pass the smell test.

 

[lotus921v]

Well, I can tell you why... because a few people made their own little cottage industry of timeshare renting.

One such person has been obnoxiously complaining about how they bought 4.5 million points retail, some of which they didn't realize how bad the MF's were until the music stopped... and most of these people are in the process of unloading them now.

And then we have people who go from zero to 1.6 million resale and are trying to "not look like a renter", even though they are "giving" out weeks to their employees and constantly asking questions about how to game the system. But I digress. A lot of the rhetoric here lately doesn't pass the smell test.

Yes. I bought a lot of points. Yes, I plan on vacationing with family. My trip with my in laws is going to run me 800k+ points alone. I’m self employed and I can only travel at peak seasons. I added my parents to one small contract and my brother and SIL to another as apparently Wyndham is on a mission to penalize legitimate owners. It’s pretty bad when I’m nervous about using a guest certificate at all even for legitimate reasons such as family vacations with more than two rooms.

Occasionally people have points left over at the end of the year and rather than lose them, I would gift them free of charge to my employees who are also my friends.

But apparently you’re all triggered and looking down your nose at me for trying to figure out the pitfalls before I make them. I prefer not to learn the hard way. If you want to dig on me for that, you aren’t hurting my feelings. I have none to hurt

 

[noreenkate]

But apparently you’re all triggered and looking down your nose at me for trying to figure out the pitfalls before I make them. I prefer not to learn the hard way. If you want to dig on me for that, you aren’t hurting my feelings. I have none to hurt

I agree that figuring out pitfalls before they happen is huge deal….my goal with my resale contracts are to maximize usage best for me and my family…which sometimes feels like I am going against the tuggers grain…

The Wyndham forum IMO have a lot of posters that often get “triggered”- not everyone has the same needs wants when it comes to their owner ship. Not sure why Wyndham but the other resort categories are not nearly as judgmental.



* Keep asking questions and eventually you will figure out who is just grumpy vs who may actual have answers. The trick then becomes filtering those answers making it fit your needs… There was some great points of discussion in the other thread and even though your solution does not work for me I learned quite a bit…

 

[lotus921v]

I agree that figuring out pitfalls before they happen is huge deal….my goal with my resale contracts are to maximize usage best for me and my family…which sometimes feels like I am going against the tuggers grain…

The Wyndham forum IMO have a lot of posters that often get “triggered”- not everyone has the same needs wants when it comes to their owner ship. Not sure why Wyndham but the other resort categories are not nearly as judgmental.



* Keep asking questions and eventually you will figure out who is just grumpy vs who may actual have answers. The trick then becomes filtering those answers making it fit your needs… There was some great points of discussion in the other thread and even though your solution does not work for me I learned quite a bit…

By asking questions, you start to understand what you don’t know… yet. I’ll keep asking questions regardless of the crankypants above lol

 

[troy12n]

Nothing wrong with asking questions, but the quality and volume of the questions is marginal, and the search feature could have answered 80% of them, the other 20% are pointed questions on how to break the rules, circumvent existing protections put in place recently, or gain access to something through fraudulent means...

Such questions like "how do I not get labeled a renter", and at the same time commenting about how they "give" their employees stays (sure...), which, despite what the person may think, the intent of all of these recent changes are to allow OWNERS to use their points... not distant relatives, not "employees". Owners. Dude also apparently owns 1.6 million points and is obviously looking on ways to monetize their "investment", I can read between the lines.

Another recent question asked about "how long do I need to hold these contracts I just bought before I dump them"... yeah, totes legit.

 

[lotus921v]

Nothing wrong with asking questions, but the quality and volume of the questions is marginal, and the search feature could have answered 80% of them, the other 20% are pointed questions on how to break the rules, circumvent existing protections put in place recently, or gain access to something through fraudulent means...

Such questions like "how do I not get labeled a renter", and at the same time commenting about how they "give" their employees stays (sure...), which, despite what the person may think, the intent of all of these recent changes are to allow OWNERS to use their points... not distant relatives, not "employees". Owners. Dude also apparently owns 1.6 million points and is obviously looking on ways to monetize their "investment", I can read between the lines.

Another recent question asked about "how long do I need to hold these contracts I just bought before I dump them"... yeah, totes legit.

Lol. You’re a salty one aren’t you.

I haven’t given anything away. I’ve only got one of the contracts that has even hit my account yet but based off the estimates for my personal/family use, I’m already looking for another 500-700k point contract to add to the collection.

I was debating swapping out a contract for one with lower MF. So what. Why does that trigger you so badly?

I like deals, which is why I started going down the timeshare route. I also own my own business and have neither the time nor the motivation to rent timeshares.

You seem to be rather obsessed with me though. Just block me already.

Also, why can’t you pay the $15 to become a member and support the forums that you let affect your mental health so much? Are you that cheap?

 

[learnalot]

It does make me wonder what the logic is behind buying a million+ retail contract that's not PR. At least in the defense of whoever originally purchased this one, Grand Desert's on the low end of MFs. But I don't really see the point in going all in on one giant non-PR contract.

I don't believe PR was ever offered/available at Grand Desert. I think the resort predated PR. There are presidential suites, but they aren't PR as far as I recall.

 

[paxsarah]

I don't believe PR was ever offered/available at Grand Desert. I think the resort predated PR. There are presidential suites, but they aren't PR as far as I recall.

I didn’t mean PR at Grand Desert specifically, just PR at all. I don’t see the appeal of owning a retail million+ non-PR contract anywhere.