2023 Hilton Grand Vacations Maintenance Fees

[dayooper]

Lagoon 2BR plus
13,440 points

2022 - $1902.06
2023 - $2095.06

difference $193 > 10%

there was an $89.35 owner surplus credit in 2022 which is why the jump was so big

Maybe we should compare this to the year before?

 

[GT75]

Lagoon 2BR plus
13,440 points

2022 - $1902.06
2023 - $2095.06

Can you also add the breakdown, (Operating, reserve, RE and HI GE Tax? I think that something isn't correct somewhere because your post and Post # 46 should be the same.

2023 Hilton Grand Vacations Maintenance Fees

HGVC at the Boulevard - 1Bedroom - 3400/4200/4800/6200 old points and 5540/6720/7680/9920 new points Typo: should be 5440.

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[letsgobobby]

2023:

2023 Operating Fee - $1451.49
2023 Reserve Fee - $372.37
2023 Real Estate Taxes - $195.78
2023 Hawaii GE Tax - $85.94
2023 Club Dues - $199

same, must have made a math error

 

[CanuckTravlr]

In addition to Post #39, here are the numbers for the 3-Bedroom Plus (Platinum).

Moderator: Please note that the new points shown in post #39 for the 1-Bedroom Plus (Platinum) should be 9,920


Ocean 22 - 3 BR Plus Platinum (3BP) - 15,360 (new)/9,600 (old) points

2023 Operating Fee - $1,077.57
2023 Reserve Fee - $269.62
2023 Real Estate Tax - $69.01

2023 Total - $1,416.20

Increase of $68.25, or 5.06% over 2022 ($1,347.95)

 

[WIHuck]

Anderson Ocean Club 3BP Platinum 15,360 points
2023 Operating Fee $1,201.61
2023 Reserve Fee $258.51
2023 Real Estate Taxes $114.80
Total = $1,574.92

Moderator added: Same as Post #44.

 

[WIHuck]

Ocean Enclave 1BR Silver 3,840 points

2023 Operating Fee $697.78
2023 Reserve Fee $140.44
2023 Real Estate Taxes $46.96
Total = $885.18

Moderator added:
Increase of $41.00, or 4.86% over 2022 ($844.18)

 

[GT75]

Maybe we should compare this to the year before?

I added a note on both the post and MFs. But, it does explain the large MF increase for this resort.

 

[GT75]

The Crane - Studio Garden View
2023 Operating Fee - $696.67
2023 Reserve Fee - $95.44
2023 Real Estate Tax - $3.58
2023 Total - $795.68
Increase of $17.71, or 2.27% over 2022 ($777.98)

The Crane - 1BR Park
2023 Operating Fee - $1016.89
2023 Reserve Fee - $121.68
2023 Real Estate Tax - $4.56
2023 Total - $1143.13
Increase of $27.01, or 2.42% over 2022 ($1116.12)

The Crane - 1BR Deluxe
2023 Operating Fee - $1433.85
2023 Reserve Fee - $182.13
2023 Real Estate Tax - $6.83
2023 Total - $1622.81
Increase of $38.09, or 2.40% over 2022 ($1584.72)

The Crane - 1BR with Pool/Garden
2023 Operating Fee - $1689.16
2023 Reserve Fee - $210.56
2023 Real Estate Tax - $7.89
2023 Total - $1907.61
Increase of $47.79, or 2.51% over 2022 ($1860.82)

The Crane - 1BR Penthouse with Rooftop Plunge Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $1286.23
2023 Reserve Fee - $201.81
2023 Real Estate Tax - $7.56
2023 Total - $1495.60
Increase of $31.80, or 2.17% over 2022 ($1463.80)

The Crane - 1BR Deluxe Penthouse with Plunge Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $1811.87
2023 Reserve Fee - $295.07
2023 Real Estate Tax - $11.06
2023 Total - $2118.00
Increase of $44.78, or 2.16% over 2022 ($2073.22)

The Crane - 1BR Deluxe with Ocean View
2023 Operating Fee - $1520.26
2023 Reserve Fee - $188.70
2023 Real Estate Tax - $7.07
2023 Total - $1716.03
Increase of $40.98, or 2.45% over 2022 ($1675.05)

The Crane - 1BR Deluxe Ocean View/Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $2016.72
2023 Reserve Fee - $314.28
2023 Real Estate Tax - $11.78
2023 Total - $2342.78
Increase of $59.19, or 2.59% over 2022 ($2283.59)

The Crane - 1BR Deluxe Ocean View/Plunge Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $1895.29
2023 Reserve Fee - $248.67
2023 Real Estate Tax - $9.32
2023 Total - $2153.28
Increase of $50.86, or 2.41% over 2022 ($2102.42)

The Crane - 2BR with Pool & Garden
2023 Operating Fee - $2238.33
2023 Reserve Fee - $283.98
2023 Real Estate Tax - $10.64
2023 Total - $2532.95
Increase of $62.07, or 2.51% over 2022 ($2470.88)

The Crane - 2BR Ocean View & Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $3043.21
2023 Reserve Fee - $447.68
2023 Real Estate Tax - $16.78
2023 Total - $3507.67
Increase of $80.09, or 2.34% over 2022 ($3427.58)

The Crane - 2BR Ocean View Penthouse with Plunge Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $3487.86
2023 Reserve Fee - $527.18
2023 Real Estate Tax - $19.76
2023 Total - $4034.80
Increase of $89.63, or 2.27% over 2022 ($3945.17)

 

[WIHuck]

Tuscany Village - 2BR Gold 8,000 points
2023 Operating Fee = $940.24
2023 Reserve Fee = $285.38
2023 Real Estate Taxes = $139.46
2023 Total = $1,365.08

Moderator added:
Increase of $64.53 or 4.67% over 2022 ($1300.55)

 

[GMan82]

West 57th STP Platinum 5250/8400

2023 Operating Fee - $1372.10
2023 Reserve Fee - $181.37
2023 Real Estate Tax - $172.81
TOTAL: $1726.28

An increase of $83.02 (5.05%)

 

[alwysonvac]

Lagoon Tower at the Hilton Hawaiian Village

2023 Budget

2022 Budget

Studio
2022 TOTAL $835.60
2023 TOTAL $889.45
Increase of $53.85 (6.44%)
Note: Additional Calculated HI GE Tax $39.65

One Bedroom
2022 TOTAL $1,390.27
2023 TOTAL $1,472.89
Increase of $82.62 (5.94%)
Note: Additional Calculated HI GE Tax $63.55

Two Bedroom
2022 TOTAL $1,910.06
2023 TOTAL $2,019.64
Increase of $109.58 (5.74%)
Note: Additional Calculated HI GE Tax $85.94

Two Bedroom Penthouse
2022 TOTAL $2,412.98
2023 TOTAL $2,548.65
Increase of $135.67 (5.62%)
Note: Additional Calculated HI GE Tax $107.61

Three Bedroom Penthouse
2022 TOTAL $2,915.89
2023 TOTAL $3,077.66
Increase of $161.77 (5.55%)
Note: Additional Calculated HI GE Tax $129.28


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[alwysonvac]

Kalia Tower at the Hilton Hawaiian Village

2023 Budget

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Hawaii calculated GE Tax for Studio at GI for 2023 is $39.41​

Hawaii calculated GE Tax for 1 BR at GI for 2023 is $66.86​

2022 Budget

Studio
2022 TOTAL $833.40
2023 TOTAL $878.51
Increase of $45.11 (5.41%)
Note: This doesn't include HI GE Tax

One Bedroom
2022 TOTAL $1,448.54
2023 TOTAL $1,520.07
Increase of $71.53 (4.94%)
Note: This doesn't include HI GE Tax

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[sensui]

Elara in Vegas, 1BDR Platinum season
Old points 7000, New points 11,200

2023 Club Dues	$199.00	01/01/2023
2023 Operating Fee	$746.30	01/01/2023
2023 Reserve Fee	$160.62	01/01/2023
2023 Real Estate Tax	$37.09	01/01/2023

Total due $1,143.01

Moderator added:
Total w/o club dues: $944.01
Same as Post #29

 

[Magus]

The District, 1 bedroom platinum

2023 Operating Fee	$1,237.29	01/01/2023
2023 Reserve Fee	$142.65	01/01/2023
2023 Real Estate Tax	$116.33	01/01/2023

$1496.27 total
Moderator added:
Increase of $40.91, or 2.81% over 2022 ($1455.36)

 

[alwysonvac]

HGVC FLAMINGO (Las Vegas) one bedroom history

My Maintenance Fees for Flamingo One Bedroom Platinum from 2003 to 2023

• Operating Cost (OE) has almost doubled (168%) since 2003
• Reserves (RE) has almost quintuple (478%) since 2003
• Club Dues has doubled (234%) since 2003
• Real Estate Tax stayed in the same ballpark since 2003

TOTAL Maintenance Fee Cost

• Operating Expense $12,111.44
• Reserve Fee $3,420.38
• Real Estate Taxes $723.67
• SUB TOTAL $16,255.46
• ARDA $83.09 (Optional)
• Annual Club Dues $2,763.00
• Special Assessment $251.33
• TOTAL $19,327.79 (average across 21 years $920.37)

NOTE: This amount doesn’t represent Grand total spent (excludes purchase price, closing cost, and various increasing transaction fees) or negative impacts (due to higher point requirements at HGVC resorts and Hilton hotels, and higher HGVC open season rates).

YEAR      OE           RE     TAX        SUB      ARDA     DUES       SA      TOTAL      Increase
2003    $431.46    $62.32    $31.52    $525.30    $3.00    $85.00    $0.00    $613.30    $0.00
2004    $433.63    $67.59    $33.70    $534.92    $3.00    $85.00    $0.00    $622.92    $9.62
2005    $442.44    $72.40    $34.40    $549.24    $3.00    $85.00    $0.00    $637.24    $14.32
2006    $451.21    $77.67    $35.52    $564.40    $3.00    $85.00    $0.00    $652.40    $15.16
2007    $470.62    $89.41    $37.99    $598.02    $3.00    $90.00    $59.80   $750.82    $98.42
2008    $501.59    $105.74   $38.21    $645.54    $3.00    $90.00    $96.20   $834.74    $83.92
2009    $539.78    $100.56   $41.79    $682.13    $3.00    $95.00    $95.33   $875.46    $40.72
2010    $546.51    $119.11   $49.09    $714.71    $3.00    $99.00    $0.00    $816.71    ($58.75)
2011    $557.44    $129.93   $44.04    $731.41    $3.00    $114.00   $0.00    $848.41    $31.70
2012    $565.26    $141.56   $26.97    $733.79    $3.00    $119.00   $0.00    $855.79    $7.38
2013    $585.80    $153.70   $27.63    $767.13    $3.00    $125.00   $0.00    $892.13    $36.34
2014    $599.22    $166.13   $31.62    $796.97    $5.00    $136.00   $0.00    $932.97    $40.84
2015    $616.60    $180.14   $29.45    $826.19    $5.00    $140.00   $0.00    $966.19    $33.22
2016    $635.54    $188.71   $29.64    $853.89    $5.00    $150.00   $0.00    $1,003.89  $37.70
2017    $639.49    $204.94   $29.56    $873.99    $5.00    $159.00   $0.00    $1,037.99  $34.10
2018    $648.28    $222.57   $29.98    $900.83    $5.00    $170.00   $0.00    $1,075.83  $37.84
2019    $665.60    $241.72   $30.49    $937.81    $5.00    $176.00   $0.00    $1,111.81  $35.98
2020    $678.29    $261.05   $31.35    $970.69    $5.00    $182.00   $0.00    $1,157.69  $45.88
2021    $675.38    $261.04   $34.63    $971.05    $5.00    $186.00   $0.00    $1,162.05  $4.36
2022    $704.35    $278.01   $36.12    $1018.48   $5.00    $193.00   $0.00    $1,216.48  $54.43
2023    $722.92    $296.08   $39.97    $1058.97   $5.00    $199.00   $0.00    $1,262.97  $46.49

Legend
OE = Operating Expense
RE = Reserve Fee
TAX = Real Estate Tax
Sub = Subtotal (OE + RE + TAX)
ARDA = Voluntary ARDA
DUES = Club Dues (increased from $85 to $176)
SA = Special Assessment (in 2007, 2008 and 2009)

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[Kokolea]

▼Kohala Suites / All 2BR units

＊Old：7000 / 8400 / 9600
＊New：11200 / 13440 / 15360

2023 Operating Fee $1,252.90
2023 Reserve Fee $422.63
2023 Real Estate Tax $92.09
2023 Hawaii GE Tax $78.95

Total $1,846.57 (increase of $87.64(4.98%) from 2022 ($1,758.93)

 

[GT75]

Kings Land, 2 Bedroom Premier (Phase I/III)

2023 Operating Fee $1,448.30
2023 Reserve Fee $344.77
2023 Real Estate Tax $102.21
2023 Hawaii GE Tax $84.49
2023 Total $1,979.77 (increase of $99.66(5.3%) from 2022 ($1,880.11)

 

[mrharris03]

Kings Land, 2 Bedroom (Phase II) - 11,200 points (old 7000 points) *
We own fixed weeks 51 & 52, but assume this is the same for Platinum season

2023 Operating Fee $1,312.45
2023 Reserve Fee $ 285.93
2023 Real Estate Tax $ 84.77
2023 Hawaii GE Tax $ 75.32

TOTAL $1758.47 (increase of $87.27 (5.22%) from 2022 ($1671.20))

 

[mrharris03]

The Residences by Hilton Club, 1BR Penthouse (Gold Season - Old 11600/New 18560 points)

2023 Operating Fee $2,672.43
2023 Reserve Fee $ 257.62
2023 Real Estate Tax $ 264.27

2023 TOTAL $3,194.32 (an increase of $163.35 (5.39%) over 2022 ($3,030.97) after backing out COVID-19 surplus ($412.20) credit)

 

[mrharris03]

The Hilton Club of New York - Old 7000 points/New 11200 points (HC sold as UDI)

2023 Operating Fee $1,842.40
2023 Reserve Fee $197.40
2023 Real Estate Tax $249.20

2023 TOTAL $2,289.00 (32.7 cents per old point; 20.44 cents per new point, an increase of 1.42/0.89 cents per old/new point (4.54%) over 2022 (after backing out COVID-19 surplus credit))

*Hilton Club of New York Club Dues for 2023 are $336.00

 

[TUGBrian]

someone sent this in a pm vs a reply:

Resort Name/Unit Size: Grand Waikikian
Operating Fee: $1,110.22
Reserve Fee: $239.43
Property Taxes (Real Estate Tax): $146.27
Hawaii GE Tax: $63.60
TOTAL: $1,559.52 (+192.75)

 

[findbrianlee21]

The Hilton Club of New York - Old 7000 points/New 11200 points (HC sold as UDI)

2023 Operating Fee $1,842.40
2023 Reserve Fee $197.40
2023 Real Estate Tax $249.20

2023 TOTAL $2,289.00 (32.7 cents per old point; 20.44 cents per new point, an increase of 1.42/0.89 cents per old/new point (4.54%) over 2022 (after backing out COVID-19 surplus credit))

*Hilton Club of New York Club Dues for 2023 are $336.00

Could you explain what backing iut of the credit means? I’ve been interested in HC or bHC resale so I was curious. Thanks.

 

[mrharris03]

Could you explain what backing iut of the credit means? I’ve been interested in HC or bHC resale so I was curious. Thanks.

Because both the Residences and Hilton Club are located in the Hilton Midtown, which was shut down for a large part of 2021, reopening in October/November 2021, the HOAs for both the Residences and Hilton Club had lower expenses in 2021, resulting in an operating credit that was applied against 2022 MFs, lowering the net payment by Members for 2022 MFs (and resulting in a large apparent increase in MFs versus 2023 if not backed out). I do not expect that credit to recur (and it did not recur in 2023) unless the Hilton Midtown is shut down for an extended period of time again. Hope this helps!

 

[echino]

Valdoro Mountain Lodge 2br

Fees are paid in two parts, one is due January 1, the other is due July 1.

2023 Operating Fee $555.18 01/01/2023
2023 Operating Fee $555.18 07/01/2023
2023 Reserve Fee $557.45 01/01/2023
2023 Real Estate Tax $67.39 01/01/2023
2023 Total $1,735.20

+$126.87 or +7.89% over 2022

 

[GT75]

Sunrise Lodge at Park City, Utah - 2BR Premier Ski Season (Platinum)
13440/16800 point room types

2023 Operating Fee $1200.90
2023 Reserve Fee $321.28
2023 Real Estate Tax $118.48
Total 2023 MF: $1640.66

Increase of $93.83 or 6.07% from 2022 ($1546.83)