Two new scientific studies claim Wuhan market not lab source of Covid

["Roger"]

Covid origin studies say evidence points to Wuhan market

One of the researchers said he hoped the studies would correct the false theory that it came from a lab.

www.bbc.com

 

[easyrider]

I'm on the fence on this one leaning to lab created. We know that there was funding to the Wuhan Lab for "gain of function" research on a covid virus. We also know that some of the Moderna Vaccines genome sequence has been found in the Wuhan Lab covid samples. The probability of this happening accidentally is reported as one in three trillion.

Bill

Tiny COVID-19 Gene Sequence Raises Valid Question or “Quirky Observation?”

Researchers identified a 19-nucleotide- long RNA sequence found in the SARS-CoV-2’s furin cleavage site that matched a 19-nucleotide sequence in a genetic segment owned by Moderna.

www.biospace.com

This new report suggests that there is a one-in-three trillion chance Moderna’s sequence randomly showed up via natural evolution, at the very least “is highly unusual and requires further investigations.”

 

[bluehende]

I'm on the fence on this one leaning to lab created. We know that there was funding to the Wuhan Lab for "gain of function" research on a covid virus. We also know that some of the Moderna Vaccines genome sequence has been found in the Wuhan Lab covid samples. The probability of this happening accidentally is reported as one in three trillion.

Bill

Tiny COVID-19 Gene Sequence Raises Valid Question or “Quirky Observation?”

Researchers identified a 19-nucleotide- long RNA sequence found in the SARS-CoV-2’s furin cleavage site that matched a 19-nucleotide sequence in a genetic segment owned by Moderna.

www.biospace.com

This new report suggests that there is a one-in-three trillion chance Moderna’s sequence randomly showed up via natural evolution, at the very least “is highly unusual and requires further investigations.”

Yes continue to disregard what you do not want to believe.

 

[emeryjre]

I'm on the fence on this one leaning to lab created. We know that there was funding to the Wuhan Lab for "gain of function" research on a covid virus. We also know that some of the Moderna Vaccines genome sequence has been found in the Wuhan Lab covid samples. The probability of this happening accidentally is reported as one in three trillion.

Bill

Tiny COVID-19 Gene Sequence Raises Valid Question or “Quirky Observation?”

Researchers identified a 19-nucleotide- long RNA sequence found in the SARS-CoV-2’s furin cleavage site that matched a 19-nucleotide sequence in a genetic segment owned by Moderna.

www.biospace.com

This new report suggests that there is a one-in-three trillion chance Moderna’s sequence randomly showed up via natural evolution, at the very least “is highly unusual and requires further investigations.”

It does not fit the conspiracy theory.

I wonder what it feels like to walk around with a mystery thriller playing in your head.

Bill gets to be the hero. Saving mankind from the perils of big pharma. Reporting to Pierre Kory.

This is what being detached from reality looks like.

 

[easyrider]

Yes continue to disregard what you do not want to believe.

I guess so. I don't believe either story yet. The "gain of function" has been determined to be true in Senate Committee Hearings. The technicality is the NIH doesn't agree with their old definitions. What do you think ? Did Dr Faucci and Dr Collins pay for gain of function research, or just research, through the NIH ?

Bill

 

[bluehende]

I guess so. I don't believe either story yet. The "gain of function" has been determined to be true in Senate Committee Hearings. The technicality is the NIH doesn't agree with their old definitions. What do you think ? Did Dr Faucci and Dr Collins pay for gain of function research, or just research, through the NIH ?

Bill

so says right wing media

Nice try at trying to change the subject away from two studies using two different methods both conclude the outbreak was not lab released.

 

[emeryjre]

Study, Bill doesn’t do no stinking’ studies.

They are always part of the conspiracy in Bill’s mystery novel.

Commander Kory has warned him about these attempts to throw Bill of the path to saving mankind.

 

[Patri]

Post title would be more clear with a couple commas.

 

[Roger830]

"But critics have played down or disputed the findings entirely, and warned both studies were carried out by the same group of academics who have regularly argued in favour of the natural origin theory."
"But Professor Hunter said while the research pins most of the original cases to the market, it does not prove the virus originated there.
'The fact that SARS-CoV-2-susceptible live mammals were sold at the Huanan market during November and December 2019 is not in itself proof, even if indicative,' he added.

"His comments were echoed by Professor David Livermore, a microbiologist at the University of East Anglia, who told MailOnline: 'The clustering suggests that the market amplified early spread of the virus.
'However, it doesn't prove that the virus originated from an animal at the market. The virus might have reached the market with a customer who worked elsewhere in the city.
'It's unproven, but I'd lean 60:40 in favour of an accidental lab leak. There's nothing here that leads me to change that view.'"

Did Covid emerge in wet market after all? Two new studies suggest so

Fierce debate about the origins of the Covid pandemic was reignited today after two new studies claimed to trace the outbreak back to a notorious animal slaughter market in Wuhan.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Talent312]

I choose to believe John Stewart who says:

This pandemic... was more than likely caused by science.
The disease is the same name as the lab... A chance?
The name of the lab is the Wuhan Corona Virus Lab.*
Ask, how did this happen? Oh, it came from a bat.

OMG. There's been an outbreak of chocolately goodness near
Hershey, PA... How did that happen? ... Maybe it's the factory.

The name of the disease is on the building.
*It's actually Wuhan Institute of Virology.

-- Source:

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[nerodog]

I choose to believe John Stewart who says:

This pandemic... was more than likely caused by science.
The disease is the same name as the lab... A chance?
The name of the lab is the Wuhan Corona Virus Lab.*
Ask, how did this happen? Oh, it came from a bat.

OMG. There's been an outbreak of chocolately goodness near
Hershey, PA... How did that happen? ... Maybe it's the factory.

The name of the disease is on the building.
*It's actually Wuhan Institute of Virology.

-- Source:

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Just ask China!!! Lololo...... the world is still waiting.

 

[nerodog]

Agree with Jon S

 

[simpsontruckdriver]

I've posted a long time ago somewhere deep in the Covid19 forum. The basis of science is matter can not be created or destroyed. Under that "law", nothing (not even Covid19) can be created in a lab. There is a 99% chance it came from an animal in Wuhan, and it has been evolving like most viruses and bacteria do. The first infections were there, [political comment removed].

TS

 

[Patri]

[Quote of political comment removed]

You seriously believe that? That little bug was going to get into the US regardless of any travel restrictions. We have a huge border. No other country was able to put up an invisible barrier either. Maybe la-la land could have.

 

["Roger"]

I agree with @Patri, there was no way that we could have stopped it from coming into the US. Could we have done more to prepare for when it did come and start to spread? Even there, I wonder if much could have been done with what little we knew about the virus at the time.