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DVC moving to II effective Jan 1 2022 [MERGED]

We already know that Welk is coming back to II in January 2022, at the same time as DVC. I doubt Welk will still have any special access, but Welk trades in points (for Welk point owners), so if they have the points and a unit is available, they will get it.
 
Looks like both VAC (owns II) and TLN (owns RCI) stock prices are up around 2% in early trading today. Doesn't look like this announcement had much impact on the market prices for the stocks.
 
CPNY said:
I’d rather the room I’m currently in at Sheraton vistana resort (which is probably the worst orlando resort in all of MVW).
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Now don't be ragging on SVR. :) Though I kind of agree, I would probably stay at any other Sheraton or Marriott timeshare in Orlando over SVR (except perhaps Harbour Lake).

Looks like we are neighbors this week. We are over in Falls. While not renovated, we love the room. I actually prefer this section over the Lakes/Fountains side.
 
ndang3 said:
Ok good luck! HHI and GC consistently sell out at 11 mo with very little movement. Obviously some people have emergencies and other things come up, but dvc has an internal waitlist system while mvc does not I believe so as soon as any property is released someone within dvc is able to snag it. Some resorts are more open than others and in general the hardest resorts to get into are HHI and GC. I don’t know how much inventory Disney keeps as rentals at each, I just know they’re consistently sold out.
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Yes, you are correct. Many of the DVC properties sell out within the internal window to people that have those as their home resort. BUT, that is not what we are talking about here. We are talking about external exchanges, outside of the DVC system. And yes, I would not expect to see these resorts be available externally with II as they were not with RCI.
 
jdunn1 said:
I would love to hear what people got via II for DVC back in the day.
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I looked at my II history and found that DVC SSR resort was my very first II exchanges and one with an AC! (that won't happen again).

Saratoga 1BR: using AC 11/16/08 (guest cert)
Saratoga 2BR: using non rated/not branded unit in New Smyrna Beach 11/16/08
Saratoga 1BR: using AC 1/24/09
Vero Beach 1BR: Using gold crown williamsburg week 05/17/09

I know I have been to Vero twice - the other must have been in RCI
 
mdurette said:
I looked at my II history and found that DVC SSR resort was my very first II exchanges and one with an AC! (that won't happen again).

Saratoga 1BR: using AC 11/16/08 (guest cert)
Saratoga 2BR: using non rated/not branded unit in New Smyrna Beach 11/16/08
Saratoga 1BR: using AC 1/24/09
Vero Beach 1BR: Using gold crown williamsburg week 05/17/09

I know I have been to Vero twice - the other must have been in RCI
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Very nice. Who knows what will happen in II but I can't imagine it being any worse than things are right now in RCI where you can only get 1 bedrooms and only at SSR and OKW and sometimes AKV.

I just missed out on DVC trades in II when I bought my Marriott week. Now that I have Marriott and Worldmark for II, I am looking forward to seeing what is available.

I know things changed around 2015-2016 and they never went back to the way it was before or anything even close to the way things were before but at this point the only thing that could be worse is getting zero DVC deposits so I only see upside to the move.
 
paxsarah said:
This seems like a reasonable question, but one doesn't need to know the answer to "why" to understand that for whatever reason, some DVC members simply do deposit their points to an exchange company. It's what's allowed me to exchange into multiple DVC resorts over the last 10 years while they were in RCI. There's no reason to believe this won't continue with the move to II.
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One could theorize that there may actually be MORE deposits into II because it would give DVC owners access to Marriott, Westin, etc , and especially to iconic resorts like WSJ.
 
Even as a certifiable DVC owner/nut, I think we can (almost) all agree that Marriott (and HGVC) in Orlando are as nice/nicer than many/most DVC (SSR reno is pretty good and RIV is like a very nice Westin) and certainly a better living/dining space. However, it's the location/Disney immersion/atmosphere puts DVC over the top for me--and not just at WDW, at Vero and HHI as well.
Weird success: 2011 DVC HHI 2 bedroom over July 4th confirmed Sept 2010! No non-DVC HHI owner could have booked that week even right at 7 months out.
 
elaine said:
Even as a certifiable DVC owner/nut, I think we can (almost) all agree that Marriott (and HGVC) in Orlando are as nice/nicer than many/most DVC (SSR reno is pretty good and RIV is like a very nice Westin) and certainly a better living/dining space. However, it's the location/Disney immersion/atmosphere puts DVC over the top for me--and not just at WDW, at Vero and HHI as well.
Weird success: 2011 DVC HHI 2 bedroom over July 4th confirmed Sept 2010! No non-DVC HHI owner could have booked that ever.
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From my personal viewpoint, we spend so little time in the resort when we're in Disney mode that I don't really need fancy. Give me a clean room with sleeping space for the three or four of us and a place to store food and prepare breakfast and a few lunches and dinner, and I don't really care if it's furnished from the 70s and has velvet Zig Zag Man paintings on the wall. Even with waning benefits of being inside the Disney bubble, enough are still there to make it an attractive destination for us.

When we vacation otherwise, we spend much more time in the unit so I have a higher standard for room and amenities, if only to avoid listening to DW carp for a week.
 
Ty1on said:
From my personal viewpoint, we spend so little time in the resort when we're in Disney mode that I don't really need fancy. Give me a clean room with sleeping space for the three or four of us and a place to store food and prepare breakfast and a few lunches and dinner, and I don't really care if it's furnished from the 70s and has velvet Zig Zag Man paintings on the wall. Even with waning benefits of being inside the Disney bubble, enough are still there to make it an attractive destination for us.

When we vacation otherwise, we spend much more time in the unit so I have a higher standard for room and amenities, if only to avoid listening to DW carp for a week.
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Well that’s too bad and you are short changing yourself. We used to be the same way but now look forward to having several days just relaxing at the resorts vs before we would try to do a park day every day for the week stay.
 
So do we think we might still see a few weeks trickle into RCI over the final few weeks of the year, or do you think that's it and they'll hold everything back to start with II on Jan 1?

We were *just* getting to the point where our late-April OGS would've been matching something, one or two matches were reported in the Sightings forum for the weekend before ours. Are we up Bonnet Creek without a paddle? Or us all hope not yet lost and they're still bound by whatever agreement they gave with RCI to continue to deposit right up to the end?

-Rob
 
Rob562 said:
So do we think we might still see a few weeks trickle into RCI over the final few weeks of the year, or do you think that's it and they'll hold everything back to start with II on Jan 1?

We were *just* getting to the point where our late-April OGS would've been matching something, one or two matches were reported in the Sightings forum for the weekend before ours. Are we up Bonnet Creek without a paddle? Or us all hope not yet lost and they're still bound by whatever agreement they gave with RCI to continue to deposit right up to the end?

-Rob
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The only weeks you would see would have to be deposited between now and NYE. I honestly would predict that most owners in a position to deposit, unless their points are about to expire (I know zero about points expiration and rollover in DVC), are going to hold out and wait until Jan 1 to deposit so as to avail themselves to the new world of possible exchange partners. Of course there is always the possibility that they'll get stuck with one of those filthy, rat-infested MVC properties.
 
[ Moderator Note: Sorry about the closure of this thread. It was moving too fast for me while I was trying to separate out the DVC v. Marriott stuff here: DVC v. Marriott Vacation Club - Beware!

Thanks for your patience, and we now return here to the topic of DVC affiliating with II. :) ]
 
Three pages of devolution, and I apologize for my part in it.
 
Ty1on said:
Next year, a remote possibility. Today, literally impossible.
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I guess. However, WSJ deposits come up on a rare-to-never basis, and then all vistana and MVC owners would get a long preferential access period to them.

Unless DVC negotiated some sort of preferential access I think by far the most likely number of DVC trades to WSJ over the next 5 years is 0.
 
i own lifetime in hawaii too but is it affiliate with both rci and II
 
How long until you think we'll see DVC units in Interval International?

The title says it all. Can't wait for DVC. Had it back in 2008 and 9 and loved it.

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Please explain. Do you mean Disney Vacation Club?
 
As published - Jan. 1st.
 
Wouldn’t it be rare to see DVC units deposited in II? They used to be rare in RCI. I think a DVC week has more value than any other weeks you might find in II.
 
TravelTime said:
Wouldn’t it be rare to see DVC units deposited in II? They used to be rare in RCI. I think a DVC week has more value than any other weeks you might find in II.
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Back in 2008 and 2009 when Disney was with II, I got so many trades. Hoping with the excitement of people with a new exchange company, units will come up
 
TravelTime said:
Wouldn’t it be rare to see DVC units deposited in II? They used to be rare in RCI. I think a DVC week has more value than any other weeks you might find in II.
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I think it will depend a lot, at least for me I had no intentions of ever depositing my OKW points in RCI the value just wasn't there. Come January 1 I will definitely be seeing what my options are Marriott’s Village d’Ile-de-France...that IMO would be a bucket list exchange/vaction
 
Interesting news. I actually traded into a Disney Hilton Head 3 bedroom grand villa back when DVC was with Interval the last time. Now THAT was a great trade.

We own DVC points for our grand kids and family to stay on Disney property. But my husband actually prefers the Orlando Marriott and Sheraton resort rooms over the DVC resorts (except Old Key West - DVC didn’t scrimp on square footage on it).
 
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