AIR CANADA PLANS TO RESUME FLIGHTS TO VACATION DESTINATIONS AS EARLY AS MAY

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AIR CANADA PLANS TO RESUME FLIGHTS TO VACATION DESTINATIONS AS EARLY AS MAY.

Air Canada Plans To Resume Flights To Vacation Destinations As Early As May

This includes Jamaica, Mexico and Barbados, among others. ☀️

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Richard

 

[CanuckTravlr]

The big "IF", as mentioned right at the end of the article, is whether the current ban on entry by international travellers and the compulsory hotel stay and 14-day quarantine are extended past the current end of April expiry date. Without the lifting of those restrictions, it's highly unlikely those planes will be flying anywhere, since they would be flying mostly empty.

Both Air Canada and WestJet are only now restoring a limited number of previously cancelled domestic routes. With vaccinations proceeding more slowly here, and a new "third wave" surge, particularly with more of the Covid-19 variants, I wouldn't hold my breath. It could be as late as the fall. That's when most Canadians are currently expected to have been fully vaccinated.

 

[echino]

There is no expiry date for mandatory hotel stay or 14-day quarantine.

The April expiry date is for the US land border closure, but it has been extended every month. There is a rumor that the US may open the land border to Canadians in May, even if Canada keeps it's border closed.

Covid is here to stay, regardless of vaccines. New variants will appear every year, just like with other viruses. Foreign travel will remain restricted as long as the majority of Canadians support those restrictions.

 

[AJCts411]

I read that the hotel jail policy is set to expire on April 30th, unless it is extended. But I would not hold my breath on reopenings anytime soon. With the colossal failure of getting vaccine supplies, I'm sure that the government will turn to more fear mongering, more new modeling, more misinformation to avoid the electorate from truly understanding the cause of the vaccine distribution failure. One example is the US based news reports that say current vaccines are effective against certain variants, while in Canada CBC and our public health Doctor, here only parrots the line, the variants are more dangerous, ignoring if the current vaccines are effective or not.

Air Canada shut down these routes with no real resistance, which seemed odd to me. This can only say there's a deal behind closed doors so you have to wonder what information is Air Canada basing the expenditure of activating these routes again. Must cost considerable and scarce money to get the planes, pilots and personnel ready to return to service.

 

[CanuckTravlr]

I read that the hotel jail policy is set to expire on April 30th, unless it is extended. But I would not hold my breath on reopenings anytime soon. With the colossal failure of getting vaccine supplies, I'm sure that the government will turn to more fear mongering, more new modeling, more misinformation to avoid the electorate from truly understanding the cause of the vaccine distribution failure. One example is the US based news reports that say current vaccines are effective against certain variants, while in Canada CBC and our public health Doctor, here only parrots the line, the variants are more dangerous, ignoring if the current vaccines are effective or not.

Air Canada shut down these routes with no real resistance, which seemed odd to me. This can only say there's a deal behind closed doors so you have to wonder what information is Air Canada basing the expenditure of activating these routes again. Must cost considerable and scarce money to get the planes, pilots and personnel ready to return to service.

Very nice, unbiased, balanced statements. First, this is a thread about current border controls and when Air Canada may or may not resume flying certain routes. Don't drag Covid-19 vaccine opinions into this thread. There is a separate thread for that. Please use it.

Also in every thread you get a chance, you refer to the compulsory border quarantine as "jail". Another "unbiased" and inaccurate statement. You can avoid it by simply not travelling outside the country. Your choice. No one is forcing you.. If you think being isolated in a 2- to 4-star hotel for 3 days minimum is anything like being in a jail, then I suggest you go visit a real jail first. They are not at all alike.

Finally Air Canada and WestJet are commercial enterprises. They normally only fly if they can make a profit. With the current travel restrictions in place, there are very few, if any, travellers to occupy those aircraft, even without any "agreement". They were cancelling all sorts of flights last year when there weren't enough bookings to justify a flight, including our trip to St. Martin in January and many more before that. Simple math, not a Q-Anon conspiracy theory.

I'm sorry that your travel plans have been disrupted. So have mine. Build a bridge and get over it, or find something more constructive to do.

 

[AJCts411]

Very nice, unbiased, balanced statements. First, this is a thread about current border controls and when Air Canada may or may not resume flying certain routes. Don't drag Covid-19 vaccine opinions into this thread. There is a separate thread for that. Please use it.

Also in every thread you get a chance, you refer to the compulsory border quarantine as "jail". Another "unbiased" and inaccurate statement. You can avoid it by simply not travelling outside the country. Your choice. No one is forcing you.. If you think being isolated in a 2- to 4-star hotel for 3 days minimum is anything like being in a jail, then I suggest you go visit a real jail first. They are not at all alike.

Finally Air Canada and WestJet are commercial enterprises. They normally only fly if they can make a profit. With the current travel restrictions in place, there are very few, if any, travellers to occupy those aircraft, even without any "agreement". They were cancelling all sorts of flights last year when there weren't enough bookings to justify a flight, including our trip to St. Martin in January and many more before that. Simple math, not a Q-Anon conspiracy theory.

I'm sorry that your travel plans have been disrupted. So have mine. Build a bridge and get over it, or find something more constructive to do.

Many be ask yourself, why did the airlines stop flying these routes? Do you think it was not due to Covid and government intervention. And then what do you call it when you are forced into confinement, against your charter rights? Maybe I choose to stand up and never accept any restrictions on rights and freedoms "for our own good", good people learn and know how to deal with all sorts of disasters.
Did you read of all the issues with your luxury hotels, sexual assaults by a guard, yes a guard just like jail, not a door man or unable to get medical attention, necessary special meals..yes lets ignore that trampling of rights because it's for your own good.
And canceling flights last January 2020...I was on a full flight south, and the scheduled flights were very much at capacity, what was known for St.Martin? don;t know...or are you confusing this with Jan 2021, during the height of that what shall not be named in this thread.

And what is more constructive, advocating defending the rights we have from this government or implying someone who does defend a conspiracy theorist? See I take and defend my rights, charter rights, natural rights and common sense. You can have your opinion, I just do not agree with it. No name calling.

 

[Chrisky]

AJCTs411 you wrote, “And then what do you call it when you are forced into confinement, against your charter rights?”
You are not forced, you chose to travel, and the result of that travel, is when you return to Canada you have to be quarantined until you receive (within 3 days) a negative test result. So if you did not travel you would not have to quarantine. Simple solution.

You defend your rights, etc. I understand that, but unfortunately we all live together in this country, and it is up to each and everyone of us to do everything possible, including protocols we may not like to reduce the cases of covid, to get vaccinated so that we can all return to our lives as soon as possible.
I do not know if you are, but I am getting sick and tired of all the naysayers - how terrible this is, how everyone has to wear a mask, how they cannot see their friends, cannot go out to bars, etc., etc. IMO if people would just buckle down, and do what is necessary, the covid cases would go down, more businesses could open. But in my province, that is not happening, cases are going up almost every day.

I hope AC and WSJ can resume flights soon, we all need to get away, in my case to someplace warm, with a beach!!

 

[CanuckTravlr]

And canceling flights last January 2020...I was on a full flight south, and the scheduled flights were very much at capacity, what was known for St.Martin? don;t know...or are you confusing this with Jan 2021, during the height of that what shall not be named in this thread.

2020??? Why would you assume that? When we left in 2020 we did not even have our first confirmed case here. Just to clarify, we spent four weeks in St. Martin last year (2020), returning mid-February, just as the cases were starting to ramp up here. They had not even declared a pandemic yet. So of course both flights were full. However, WestJet cancelled most of its flights to St. Martin starting in late fall and including both of the flights we would have taken in January and February 2021. Those were cancelled long before any government "agreement". It was caused by lack of bookings. We had decided not to go, just like many others.

As to rights, no rights are unrestricted anywhere in the world. Even the Constitution has a "notwithstanding" clause. Your rights stop when they start interfering with my rights. You can't drive a car down the highway at 200 km/h, just because you can or want to. You also don't have a right to endanger anyone else's health, even if you believe your travel wouldn't. The virus doesn't just miraculously show up in someone; it's transmitted. the more people move around, the more it's transmitted. Again, a very simple concept, that you don't seem to get. The virus is not an opinion, the virus is a fact.

 

[easyrider]

It's just too bad that this pandemic happened before we could ride our bikes to Alaska. It's hard to get there from here without riding through Canada. This is probably the third strike. Strike one was my friends health. Strike 2 was last years closure. Strike 3 seems to be happening with the continued border closure.

Even when the border opens I'm thinking rural Canada might not like visitors just yet.

Bill

 

[CanuckTravlr]

It's just too bad that this pandemic happened before we could ride our bikes to Alaska. It's hard to get there from here without riding through Canada. This is probably the third strike. Strike one was my friends health. Strike 2 was last years closure. Strike 3 seems to be happening with the continued border closure.

Even when the border opens I'm thinking rural Canada might not like visitors just yet.

Bill

Yes, I can relate. We have cancelled a trip to the Caribbean, three trips to the Carolinas and Florida, a trip to the west coast and one to Europe.

I have a brother with a compromised immune system, in remission from cancer, and a 101-year-old father-in-law who is very fortunate to still be in good health. The risk of us potentially endangering them if we were to travel, is not worth it, IMO. As antsy as we are to travel again, we can wait it out. It's a relatively small sacrifice. It will be nice though, when we are able to travel again freely.

I think Americans will be welcomed back. It was primarily a few rule-breakers that caused most of the uproar in the early months. Some of it was when locals perceived someone to be travelling "unnecessarily". That occasional animosity was not just restricted to Americans. Even fellow Canadians got the same treatment at times, usually those coming from places like cities, that had higher infection rates.

Here's to better times ahead. There at least now seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel.