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Offer from Encore presentation- tempted but wanted expert advice

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CarlosK

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We attended a presentation as a potential first time Marriott buyer. Our offer was a hybrid offer, a GV week worth 2775 pts and 2000 Destination pts @ $7.21 a point. They also offered 8k one time points, refund of encore price ($995), $2k off the total price for a recent Marriott trip we had, plus a free 1 week (2 bedroom) stay for a future MVC trip.

I’m a current Westin Maui timeshare owner from 12 years ago and know their system and have enjoyed using our every other year there, but I don’t know the Marriott system. Will I be handcuffed by owning some points deeded to GV vs the more flexible Destination points? Our Westin deeded Maui resort prevents us from booking other locations until 8 months out, so if that’s the case with the GV points, I would definitely not buy. Our goal with the Marriott points is to use it for Hawaii or ski resorts.

We are quite tempted to purchase this, but wanted to get good value. Thanks!
 
Not a good deal -- both on the initial price and the ongoing maintenance price.

If you want Marriott DC points, you can buy them on the resale market for ~$5/point (~$2/point to buy them + $3/point for Marriott's extortionate "education fee").

DC points are expensive to use for Hawaii. A 2bd unit with some view costs >5000 DC points (OF is more); see https://vacationpointexchange.com/pointschart/points_charts_2021.pdf. The maintenance fee on DC points is ~$0.63/point, meaning that those 5000+ points will cost ~$3,150 minimum (plus the $215 annual DC Club fee). That's considerably more than your WKORV unit costs to use.

Your would be at "Select" level with 4775 DC points, so you could reserve anywhre in Marriott's system at twelve months. But you would be reserving after those with higher status; Executive level and higher can reserve at 13 months -- which will be a factor for prime weeks at ski hills or Hawaii.

The GV points and the purchased points will work seamlessly; that is not the problem.
 
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Earlier this week I got the same offer but I did not attend on an encore so you get that rebate and another $2k from another marriott trip. Your offer is better at $2995 off and a free 7 day trip in a 2br. If you use it for an expensive local like hawaii or Aruba you could save at least $7k with the $3k rebate. You can buy cheaper on resale about $10k for the DC points and $2k for the plat GV. Though the GV week will not be enrolled in the DC program if you buy resale. If you decide the resale is the week to go, to enroll that GV week in the DC program will cost you more as you have to purchase 3000 DC points direct to enroll that week. This is one of the better offers IMO to get into the DC program.

Do not have to get into the DC program if you only want to go to one specific marriott. Then I recommend you purchase at that resort resale. It will be cheaper upfront and in the long run.
 
Thanks for your replies. It sounds like the offer is a good one, but whether it‘s a good offer for our family is still in question. We decided to pass on the purchase, but Marriott gave us another Encore offer so we’ll defer the decision for another year.
 
CarlosK said:
We attended a presentation as a potential first time Marriott buyer. Our offer was a hybrid offer, a GV week worth 2775 pts and 2000 Destination pts @ $7.21 a point. They also offered 8k one time points, refund of encore price ($995), $2k off the total price for a recent Marriott trip we had, plus a free 1 week (2 bedroom) stay for a future MVC trip.

I’m a current Westin Maui timeshare owner from 12 years ago and know their system and have enjoyed using our every other year there, but I don’t know the Marriott system. Will I be handcuffed by owning some points deeded to GV vs the more flexible Destination points? Our Westin deeded Maui resort prevents us from booking other locations until 8 months out, so if that’s the case with the GV points, I would definitely not buy. Our goal with the Marriott points is to use it for Hawaii or ski resorts.

We are quite tempted to purchase this, but wanted to get good value. Thanks!
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Learn more about the system and options before deciding to jump. I assume your price of $7.21 is after all the other refunds. I generally am not a fan of just buying points because the fees can be much higher on a yearly basis. There are ways to get a much cheaper yearly cost when the time is right for you. If you wanted GV you could always buy resale.
 
Same offer I got last week at GV presentation. I remember it was $7.21 averaged price over the GV week and DC points hybrid purchase before any incentives.

I was offered the 8k DC points as incentive. In addition OP got offered rebate of encore price paid, previous Marriott stay and one week 2br usage. If you can get a nice Hawaii or Aruba 2br week to use, value of 8k DC points, rebate of the encore($995) and Marriott vacation($2k) you are looking at least $11k-$12k in incentives. Brings the price of the package all in at $22k-$23k for 2000 DC points and an enrolled GV week. Not bad IMO for a hybrid bundle costing about $4.70-$4.90 per point. Below cost of buying resale points and paying the enrollment fees.

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My understanding is that all MVC point owners can book at 13 months out. The difference is an "owner level" pays an extra point premium, "select level" has to book at least 7 days at 13 months, while the higher levels can book 1+ days at 13 months.

So all owners can book at 13 months or has this changed?
 
Yes all owners can. Just presidential and chairmans does not have a premium to book at 13 months.

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