2019 Maintenance fees

[Wainwright]

Royal Sea Cliff
Maintenance Fees: $4.48
Reserve Fund: $1.11
Property Tax: $0.30
Local Tax: $0.26
Total: $6.15
went from $6.09 to $6.15 so up $0.06

Excluding program fees.

 

[drepublic]

EDIT: This previously uploaded chart was incorrect for National Harbor. Corrected below in another post.

I put this together while researching resale point properties and checking this thread for maintenance and this really puts things into perspective, as to "how bad do you really want ARP?" I wanted to know how many points I could get per $1000 spent in annual maintenance. Yes I understand some pay 0.58 for program fee and others pay 0.6. Just went with 0.6 as that's what I'm paying. If you see any holes in my logic or thinking or any errors please let me know but this is an interesting chart.

 

[CCdad]

I put this together while researching resale point properties and checking this thread for maintenance and this really puts things into perspective, as to "how bad do you really want ARP?" I wanted to know how many points I could get per $1000 spent in annual maintenance. Yes I understand some pay 0.58 for program fee and others pay 0.6. Just went with 0.6 as that's what I'm paying. If you see any holes in my logic or thinking or any errors please let me know but this is an interesting chart.

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National Harbor is $4.24 per 1K per Richelle.

Ocean Blvd has the 4 different towers; the rate you've listed looks a bit low. I thought it was in the $6 range, but I see that Outskiing quoted that rate. That's a good MF rate for a MB property.

 

[drepublic]

Oops...sorry about that. Jumped the gun on Maintenance fees and not total. Corrected National Harbor. OutSkiing reported 5.07 for Ocean Blvd.

 

[Richelle]

Oops...sorry about that. Jumped the gun on Maintenance fees and not total. Corrected National Harbor. OutSkiing reported 5.07 for Ocean Blvd.

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Bali Hai has different maintenance fee rates. Converted fixed weeks are different then UDI. The rate you quoted was for UDI. I would recommend you put a disclosure in there that the rates in the chart are for UDI points.


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[drepublic]

Bali Hai has different maintenance fee rates. Converted fixed weeks are different then UDI. The rate you quoted was for UDI. I would recommend you put a disclosure in there that the rates in the chart are for UDI points.

Sure no problem. I am unable to edit that last post for some reason, so here is an updated chart with disclosure.

 

[louisianab]

Wyndham Patriots Place
(Fixed Week Doubleshare F/W)

Maintenance Fees: $4.32
Reserve Fund: $1.98
Property Tax: $0.27
Total: $6.57 excluding program fees

Wyndham Branson - UDI
Maintenance Fees: $4.68
Reserve Fund: $1.58
Property Tax: $0.13
Total: $6.39 excluding program fees

my others have already been shared.

 

[Xcalibur]

Bali Hai FW-O - 5.7% increase
Maintenance Fees $2.93
Reserve Fund $0.89
Property Tax $0.30
Local Tax $.11
TOTAL $4.23

Bonnet creek when from 5.87 to 6.16 so up 0.29 per 1,000 points

That is nearly double the increase from some of the other locations.

- wasn't there a time when BC was considered one of the lower ones? I vaguely remember that...

 

[jjking42]

Fixed converted week Wyndham flagstaff 7.2 % increase (time to vote out the board)
2018 4.98
2019 5.34
154K points

2018
MF 593.44
Res 147.00
Tax 26.88
total 767.32
program fee 131.00

2019
MF 643.41
Res 155.00
Tax 24.46
total 822.87
program fee 135.00

 

[rubbub]

Bali Hai Presidential Reserve
MF: $2.89 (+$0.08)
RF: $0.90 (+$0.08)
PT: $0.27 (+$0.02)
LT: $0.19 (+$0.03)

Total: $4.25 (+$0.21)

 

[dgalati]

Someone suggested a long time ago that Florida tax assessors may only consider recent developer sales of a timeshare as more indicative of FMV than recent resales. And if many TS's in FL are owned by non-residents, there's less likely to be folks willing to travel to the respective local taxing jurisdictions to challenge their assessments (which are collected at the resort level anyway). So I just chalk it up as another tourism tax to offset their infrastructure costs.

There is no personal income tax in Florida which could be the reason for higher real estate taxes.

 

[Hecdiaz1]

Wyndham Sapphire Valley - Converted F/W - 154,000 points ($4.364)

• Maintenance Fees:
  $395.37
• Reserve Fund:
  $263.13
• Property Tax:
  $13.54
• Total HOA Fee:
  $672.04

 

[Mr. Phil]

I have not received mine yet.

But oddly enough, we were at an owners update on Sunday and they ran off the usual sheet showing all our ownings and the fees for each. The sales lady thought they were 2018 fees but in fact they are all higher than my 2018 fees so I think they are the 2019 fees! Yes .. it says rate year 2019! I happened to take a picture on my cell phone:

CWA fee : $5.99 per thousand (up from $5.76 in 2018)

The program fee for all resorts is now $.60 per thousand (up from $.58 in 2018)

The HOA breakdown by Maintenance fee / Reserve Fee / Taxes are not on this sheet .. just total HOA and Program fees.

Bob

Access for 2021 will be $6.19/1000.

 

[Richelle]

Access for 2021 will be $6.19/1000.

First, why are you posting 2021 dues in 2019 dues thread? Second, how would you know this already? The budgets for the resorts are not out yet for 2021. The maintenance fees for access is the average of all the points in the system. Without knowing what the budgets of the system are, they cannot know how much they are going to charge for 2021.

Also, the dues are currently $6.28 per 1,000. Are you saying the maintenance fees are going down for the first time in the history of CWA? That would require most of those 70+ resorts to have their fees go down.

 

[Mr. Phil]

I just received my year end update for one of my contracts. Royal Garden is now 5.07 per thousand. Has anyone seen what Access fees are next year? I like using that number for comparison so I can see how my fees compare to the average ^_^

Access Fess for 2021 are $6.20/1000.

 

[Jan M.]

Access Fess for 2021 are $6.20/1000.

The correct 2021 maintenance fees for Club Wyndham Access points are $6.61 per thousand points.

There is a fantastic spreadsheet that HDiaz1 created on the third page of the 2020 maintenance fee sticky. Many of us have been updating it with the 2021 maintenance fees. I also started a thread asking people to update the spreadsheet.