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Cutting the Cord: Streaming Instead of Cable TV Means Complicated Choices, and Some Trade-Offs

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Cutting the Cord: Streaming Instead of Cable TV Means Complicated Choices, and some Trade-Offs/
By Paul Andrews/ Business/ Technology/ The Seattle Times/ seattletimes.com

"Xfinity vs. CenturyLink, Roku v.s. Hulu vs. YouTube TV and others — cutting the cord requires planning, decisions and flexibility. And you may save some money. Here’s one local resident’s journey through the maze of options.

Like a lot of people, I’d been thinking about cutting the cord for some time. But it wasn’t till my cable bill jumped by $46 over a two-month period — a 23 percent increase — that I got motivated enough to make the move.

I’d been more or less satisfied with cable over the years. But the bills kept going up. And I’d been forced to buy hundreds of channels to get the few I actually watch.

Cord-cutting — dropping cable, phone-company or satellite TV in favor of streaming live TV over the Internet — sounded fantastically liberating. No more contracts, no more nickel-and-dime taxes and fees. No more dealing with the impenetrable bureaucracy of a de facto monopoly.

Ultimately, though, it turned out to be like everything else in life. There are trade-offs, and experience is different from promise.

I did wind up saving money. Overall, my bill dropped by a third to $120 a month for combined Internet and TV. I only get 45 channels for that, but — major point — it includes all the channels I want. My TV access, in other words, hasn’t suffered.

But cord-cutting is complicated and confusing. Plans vary so much from one provider to the next — and keep changing on almost a monthly basis — it’s impossible to compare apples to apples.

Little word-of-mouth guidance exists. I found it was hard to poll my friends about which plan works best because few if any had taken the step themselves.

Then there’s the learning curve. New software, new hardware and a new way of thinking about TV...."

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(Gabriel Campanario / The Seattle Times)


Richard
 
Not hard at all if you do your due diligence. Think about all the work you put in finding out about timeshares and apply the same principals here. There is a forum for cordcutters here
https://www.reddit.com/ that has a lot of good info. We cut the cord 3 months ago and are totally happy. What we were paying for tv alone was $135 is now $45. Kind of a no brainer for us. We now have less channels for sure but what’s more important is we have the channels that we actually watch.
 
Not hard at all if you do your due diligence.

I completely agree. We cut the cord almost 3 years. I don’t feel like there have been trade-off. In fact for me it’s been way better then I anticipated. We mainly utilize Sling & Tablo but truthful I don’t even watch that. I do have a lot of fun occasionally binge watching entire series on Amazon Prime.
 
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As soon as I get back to Ohio in April, whoever Time Warner Cable is now is out the window. With a HD Antenna, Roku and Sling, I’m ok.

As a test, I hooked up an old Rabbit Ears I had to a TV in my hangar and got 20+ channels, most in HD.

I also brought my Roku stick to CO for the winter and except for an occasional reboot, it works fine. Watch mostly Acorn and Amazon Prime on the stick.

Cheers
 
with amazon/netflix and an HD antenna...dont miss cable (or commercials) one bit!
 
This is the same setup we have. The Tablo and Sling Blue. The nice thing is there is no more of that mindless channel surfing going on. We had the Orange/Blue and finally realized that Blue alone had all the channels we watched except ESPN and I only use that during the college football season so we dropped Orange and will add it only when needed and then drop it again.
 
We've decided to give this a try. So far, so good. I look at it this way. We have gone from having way, way too much content to watch to having way too much content to watch.

I do, however miss the Canadian sports channel TSN.
 
While we don't have Netflix or any other such subscription services, I would drop DirecTV in a minute but DW records and watches all kinds of stuff. I hardly watch any of it. We find ourselves watching more and more things on YouTube. There are some great creators out there making some great videos. If we dropped DirecTV, we would probably pick up Netflix or something like it again as well as hook up an OTA antenna.
 
I just did this and so far I am quite happy. I already was paying for Netflix and Amazon Prime, but did not have a smart TV and didn't like watching on my computer, tablet or phone. So I bought an LG smart TV and I can't believe how much I love it! I have Hulu's $7.99 subscription which includes streaming but not live TV, so I just added a $10 antenna which gives me more than enough live TV. The TV itself comes with about 100 internet TV channels. I also have HBO skinny that comes free with my ATT mobile. That is a scaled down version of HBO which gives me Westworld and much more, but I have to watch on my computer or cellphone. The only downsides are: 1) I don't have SYFY, but there is only one show I watch on that channel and I can do that on my computer or phone, 2) I can't pause or rewind live TV, 3) I can't record and watch later. But to me, saving almost $90 a month is worth the inconveniences.
 
As someone who has cut the cord as well, I am finding MUCH less to watch these days. That is not due to a lack of choice (to be sure), rather the quality of what is being offered these days.
If there is one good thing to come from cord cutting, we seem to be watching much less TV these days because of a lack of suitable and desirable choices.
In fact, this household might easily become a one network household if there was a way to stream HGTV only, view their programs on demand AND be able to skip commercials.
 
Cutting the cord is much easier if all one watches is prerecorded material. What about live sports? Currently, I can watch live college football in the fall from 10 in the morning until midnight. How do you do that after cutting the cord?
 
Cutting the cord is much easier if all one watches is prerecorded material. What about live sports? Currently, I can watch live college football in the fall from 10 in the morning until midnight. How do you do that after cutting the cord?
Sling TV seems to be an option many sports junkies choose. Have you given Sling a look, Elan?
 
Cutting the cord is much easier if all one watches is prerecorded material. What about live sports? Currently, I can watch live college football in the fall from 10 in the morning until midnight. How do you do that after cutting the cord?

DirectTV Now or FUBU are both streaming services with all the sports. I suppose it's not really cord cutting if you still have to pay for internet. My cable and internet bill is $150 with all the sports I want and fast internet. If I paid for internet, DirectTV Now and a streaming service like Netflix it would be close to that. I get perfect antenna reception for all the San Diego stations. I rent the movies I want to watch on Apple TV or Vudu.
 
Having recently relocated to Palm Springs area, I arrived fully intending to use internet alone for all of my tv needs. The problem was the cost for said service from the only internet provider, Spectrum. Their bundled package was just a few dollars more than internet alone. The price will go up after 12 months, so I will revisit costs at that time.
 
Having recently relocated to Palm Springs area, I arrived fully intending to use internet alone for all of my tv needs. The problem was the cost for said service from the only internet provider, Spectrum. Their bundled package was just a few dollars more than internet alone. The price will go up after 12 months, so I will revisit costs at that time.

That's kind of an issue here as well. Very little competition for internet service.
 
Network TV is mostly “reality” TV these days which seems to be a bunch of loonies from the left and right coasts doing irrelevant things. Not to say there’s a lot of that on cable as well:rolleyes:

Having Direct TV Now, Prime and Netflix offers much better choices for me. Acorn TV has plenty of U.K., Canada, New Zealand and Australian programs as well.

Using an HD Antenna with great reception fills in on the rare occasion there’s something I want to see on ABC, CBS, PBS etc.

Cheers
 
What about live sports? Currently, I can watch live college football in the fall from 10 in the morning until midnight. How do you do that after cutting the cord?

DirectTV Now or FUBU are both streaming services with all the sports.

It's harder if you are a sports fan. I work at a Big Ten university, am an alum of a Pac 12 school, and watch a lot of top-flight soccer: lots of Premiere League plus a little La Liga, Bundesliga, and in a pinch Ligue 1. At various times of year I watch ESPN, FS1/FS2, NBCSN, BTN and Pac12 networks. No one streaming package has all of these, and putting them together costs at least $60/mo ($35 for Fubo, $25 for Sling Orange) as far as I can tell. (Fubo does not have ESPN; DirecTV Now does not have Pac 12).
 
It's harder if you are a sports fan. I work at a Big Ten university, am an alum of a Pac 12 school, and watch a lot of top-flight soccer: lots of Premiere League plus a little La Liga, Bundesliga, and in a pinch Ligue 1. At various times of year I watch ESPN, FS1/FS2, NBCSN, BTN and Pac12 networks. No one streaming package has all of these, and putting them together costs at least $60/mo ($35 for Fubo, $25 for Sling Orange) as far as I can tell. (Fubo does not have ESPN; DirecTV Now does not have Pac 12).

Right, it's always been easy if you don't care about live television. Probably >80% of what I watch on TV is sports. To be honest, although I've looked at Sling and other options, I haven't tried any of them because I foresee some scenario where I'm constantly having to search among 2 or 3 streaming content providers to find a given game. Maybe it's not as bad as I envision, but there's a lot of inertia in staying with DirecTV. Just need to try it. Oh, almost forgot, the other thing is that we live at the base of the foothills and local OTA reception is not that good.
 
Just switched to PS Vue from Sling. Sling only has 28 channels currently at 60 FPS and th rest in 30 FPS and that’s just a non starter for me with the college football season fast approaching. PS Vue is all 60 FPS and has ESPN, FS1/2, BTN, CBS SN and NBC SN. The difference between 30 and 60 FPS was most notable to me on the Golf Channel. Always wondered why the golf ball always looked so funny in the air on European tournaments? Now I know. Most of them broadcast in 30FPS! Have always thought PS Vue would have more subscribers if the changed their stupid name. Many, including myself initially, think you have to have a PlayStation to subscribe!
 
All this streaming stuff if too much for me (too old I guess) so I'm sticking with cable. When I go over to my Son's house to watch his dogs I am in TV Hell. He has a remote that you use to connect to 5 different services. I have no Idea what they are or how to use them. So I end up watching the local DFW over the air channels while I am there...

George
 
One of the issues I have with PS Vue is this:

WHAT IS THE PRICE CHANGE AND WHEN IS IT HAPPENING?
Effective 7/24/2018 for new subscribers, plan upgrades, and plan downgrades, pricing for PlayStation™Vue multi-channel plans will be as follows:

  • Access: $44.99 per month*
  • Core: $49.99 per month*
  • Elite: $59.99 per month*
  • Ultra : $79.99 per month*
Look at those prices - they are quickly approaching (if not surpassing) some of the rates for Dish and Direct. I realize there are no contracts (which is still a big plus for the streaming services) here but PS Vue really does not move the needle closer to a la carte viewing (where one can choose only the channels of interest). It may be the case that PS Vue offers the best quality picture delivered via streaming but even the lowest tier (Access) has a lot of useless channels and the DVR restrictions make no sense.

Streaming services are better than Dish and Direct I suppose but they still look too much like them. I want fewer channels, lower cost and the ability to select only the channels I want. Maybe that is coming one day soon.
 
Well, since I was paying $130 monthly for service with DISH, I find I am paying less than half that now with PS Vue, even with the increase! The DISH price included a Hopper3 and two Joeys so that I could record and watch tv in three rooms.

I get the same recording capability with Vue but I can watch in as many rooms or locations as I want to! Saving $60 per mo isn’t much to many but to others it is a significant savings. Prior to moving to Vue we were with Sling on their Blue channel with a couple of add on pkg for a total cost of $40 monthly. Now that college football season is almost here I needed to either add the Orange pkg to get ESPN or do like I did, switch to Vue. In Jan I will downgrade to a service that doesn’t have ESPN because all I use it for is college football.

Cord cutting isn’t for everybody, for sure. But for some it works great with an added perk of saving money! But, you are never going to see true ala carte viewing. They just wouldn’t make enough to keep any service viable and if they did they would have to charge a ridiculously high per channel fee to make it viable. I just try and make the best of what is available, at all times.
 
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I downsized my CableTV bill several years ago ... believe I had a thread on TUG about the topic, too.

Have NOT had bouts of 'separation' or depression or strange cravings after the adjustment period. Sure, I missed the HGTV channel the most .. but it had been recycling the same shows. I did NOT even look at 'replacement' optionns, like internet access for streaming.

I thought of it as more of my having TV addiction problem.
 
Bucky,

At that price, did you also have some of the premium movie channels as well?
 
It can be tricky to figure out for anyone who is used to cable. But it's not actually very tricky. The reality is that no cable bundle is going to provide everything you want, anyway, so if you really want to watch what you want to watch then you have to find the ways.

I cut the cord about 10 years ago. I started with Roku. Since then I have tried Amazon Fire Stick and ChromeCast as well as Xbox. Right now my preference is Chromecast combined with special apps on my phone.

The apps I have are a LOT! I just need them all to be able to watch all the stuff I like:
Hulu - for sitcoms like Modern Family and Blackish, dramas like This Is Us and Handmaid's Tale
Netflix - mostly for standup comedy specials and kids movies as well as a few favorite shows like Kimmie Schmidt
Amazon Prime - mostly for things like Orphan Black
WNBA League Pass - to watch our new Las Vegas Aces
NBC Sports Gold - they took over IceNetwork so this is now where I will watch figure skating
CBS All Access - The Good Fight and Madame Secretary
Movies Everywhere - they took over Disney Movies Everywhere so all the Disney movies I own are there
 
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