Went to a Owner Party Lunch today at National Harbor

[northovr]

Went to a Owner Party Lunch today at National Harbor. Crusted tilapia chicken Marcela. food was pretty good. Presentation not so much. Wanted me to pic my Oceantime week convert my Patriots Place week and buy 105000 points at 252 per 1000. This would make me Silver VIP and I could convert my points to 100000 to 500 dollars for maintenance fee. As I would save 25 percent on reservations at 60 days out. I told him at 60 days out they aren't any good reservations left. He was pretty Persuasive. I still don't understand this buy more points and use them to pay maintenance fees. I told them at the last presentation in Williamsburg they told me not to buy anything any where else but at because Williamsburg is a owner care center everywhere else is a sales center. The new term is OVP Ownership Value Performance?
Jonathon finally gave up got Our 125 gift card and parking ticket and left.
thanks
Daniel

 

[Avislo]

Were they attempting to sell Access or deeded?

 

[northovr]

When I told them the Williamsburg thing they gave me a proposal to buy 400,000 points of CWA for $100,000 with $40000 down. 1100 a month for ten years.
Thanks Daniel

 

[Avislo]

Thanks for the information.

 

[chapjim]

When I told them the Williamsburg thing they gave me a proposal to buy 400,000 points of CWA for $100,000 with $40000 down. 1100 a month for ten years.
Thanks Daniel

Heckuva deal! How could you pass that up?

 

[ronparise]

The pitch is that they understand that you dont need more points and they certainly wouldnt want to sell you something you dont need but if you buy your way to VIP you will then with the VIP discounts, be able to get the same number of vacations you are doing now, for a lot less points... then you can take the excess and put them toward maintenance fees.

so you will get the same vacations for less maintenance fees than you are now paying

The problem is it dosent work, and it certainly dosent work at the silver level.

so lets run the numbers... Your annual fees will increase by 105 x $4 (assuming they are selling you National harbor points.) or $420 per year. plus the annual pic fee and the program fee for the patriots place converted week....about$150 a year.

presumable you are already using your Oceantime week and your patriots place week each year plus what ever wyndham points you already own, Im going to assume a weeks worth or about 154000 points Do what they want and if my assumptions are close to right, you will have something like 567000 points and you only want 3 weeks vacation a year...(just like now) 3 weeks at, lets assume, 154000 points per week is 462000. but you will get a 25% discount so you will only use 346000 points so you will have about a 200000 point surplus that you can put towards maintenance fees

Points convert to mf dollars at something less than $3/1000 points so you will get a $600 credit toward mf but remember your mf went up through this exercise by $570/year

so the way I see it you will pay $25000 to save $30/year

if you want to pic your oceantime week and convert your patriots place week, Its going to cost you $25000, If thats what you want, by all means do it. But dont do it because you think you will somehow save you any money....it wont .

 

[northovr]

I don't I just didn't have a argument to come back at him now I do Thanks I told him I would have to think about and research it before I did anything I said I will be in the smokies next week and I ask them about it there because they twist your arm when you check in. I use my Oceantime week every year and I bank my Patriots Place week in RCI. My Wyndham points are connected to II.

Thanks Daniel

 

[ronparise]

I don't I just didn't have a argument to come back at him now I do Thanks I told him I would have to think about and research it before I did anything I said I will be in the smokies next week and I ask them about it there because they twist your arm when you check in. I use my Oceantime week every year and I bank my Patriots Place week in RCI. My Wyndham points are connected to II.

Thanks Daniel

dont fix what aint broke

 

[silentg]

I don’t care what they serve for lunch, not going to anymore owner/sales presentations.
Glad you go out unscathed!

 

[chapjim]

We're going to travel the fourteen miles to National Harbor tomorrow (Wednesday) for the weekend. I'll take the NH shuttle and Metro to work Thursday & Friday, as I've done before. I get to work about an hour later than usual because the first shuttle leaves NH after I normally arrive at work. Still, it works pretty well.

We are never asked to attend presentations (by whatever name). But, last time was right after the new system was rolled out. We asked to attend the presentation and it was disastrous. We'll not ask this time.

And yes, once again it will be just my wife and me in a 4BR Presidential unit. I also had a 2BR Pres reserved for the same dates. Tried to rent the 4BR unit and use the 2BR. No takers so I canceled the 2BR Pres unit.

 

[erniecrews]

We're going to travel the fourteen miles to National Harbor tomorrow (Wednesday) for the weekend. I'll take the NH shuttle and Metro to work Thursday & Friday, as I've done before. I get to work about an hour later than usual because the first shuttle leaves NH after I normally arrive at work. Still, it works pretty well.

We are never asked to attend presentations (by whatever name). But, last time was right after the new system was rolled out. We asked to attend the presentation and it was disastrous. We'll not ask this time.

And yes, once again it will be just my wife and me in a 4BR Presidential unit. I also had a 2BR Pres reserved for the same dates. Tried to rent the 4BR unit and use the 2BR. No takers so I canceled the 2BR Pres unit.

I am going to be there twice next month in a 3 bdrm pres reserve, I like those better than a 4 bdrm, yes I will be by myself - it is business.

 

[MartinK]

And yes, once again it will be just my wife and me in a 4BR Presidential unit.

I am going to be there twice next month in a 3 bdrm pres reserve, I like those better than a 4 bdrm, yes I will be by myself - it is business.

You guys gotta be a housekeeper's dream come true.

 

[breezez]

You guys gotta be a housekeeper's dream come true.

Or they like playing musical beds

 

[pedro47]

To the OP, please tell us this was a Halloween joke. Who in their right mind is going to pay $100,000.00 for a timeshare.

 

[ronparise]

To the OP, please tell us this was a Halloween joke. Who in their right mind is going to pay $100,000.00 for a timeshare.

Not the op but no joke

Wyndham has a “class” of owner called VIP that comes with certain benefits

It takes 1 million points purchased from the developer to be a platinum VIP. Points cost $150 to $200 per 1000 points

So, do the math

Silver vip is 400000 points and gold is 700000

There are programs through which you can deposit other Timeshares into the Wyndham system and get points for them and these points will count toward vip but they require a developer purchase to qualify. You would still need to buy 200000 new points to get to gold. Or $30-$40k

 

[Avislo]

Am at National Harbor now. Not real impressed with trip. Parking garage had problems. Parking Pass person not helpful. He just took the position that Wyndham has no association with the parking garage anymore. I hope there is no problem leaving the garage at checkout. Wyndham took the money for three of the cars. Car 4 paid the garage fee directly. If they want sales maybe look at improving service.

 

[ecwinch]

Am at National Harbor now. Not real impressed with trip. Parking garage had problems. Parking Pass person not helpful. He just took the position that Wyndham has no association with the parking garage anymore. I hope there is no problem leaving the garage at checkout. Wyndham took the money for three of the cars. Car 4 paid the garage fee directly. If they want sales maybe look at improving service.

It is a public garage. What did you want them to do?

 

[Avislo]

Maybe let all of the cars park through the Wyndham System that lets the car come and go. Also, hope no problem at check out on the other three cars where I have to pay again. We have three units.

 

[chapjim]

Hmmm. I'm at Wyndham National Harbor now as well. The routine for the garage has changed since last time but it has worked just like it was explained when we checked in.

We were given the usual ticket for the garage. The difference is the first time in, you insert the ticket given at check-in, then the machine gives you that ticket back and spits out another one. When departing for the first time, you use the ticket from the machine. Thereafter, you just use the ticket given at check-in.

Other than giving you a ticket, the Wyndham rep is correct. Wyndham doesn't own or control the garage.

 

[ecwinch]

Maybe let all of the cars park through the Wyndham System that lets the car come and go. Also, hope no problem at check out on the other three cars where I have to pay again. We have three units.

So your complaint is that each unit only gets one car in the Wyndham system? And your fourth vehicle has to use the public pay system - that does not have in/out privileges and is $2 more per day.

It seems obvious that the resort's contract with the garage controls that. And while the resort could negotiate two or even three spots per unit, there is no free lunch. More spots committed to the resort, means less spots that are available to the public. Someone has to pay that bill.

 

[chapjim]

Glad you deciphered that. I had no clue what his point was.

Other than maybe the view, there's precious little free (or even cheap) at National Harbor.

 

[Avislo]

No, but it really does not matter at this point.